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The Raj Lives: India In Nepal

Umesh Verma May 6, 2008

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#30 Posted by devendraboy on May 12, 2008 10:34:14 pm
Re: # 5
Unlike their Nepali counterparts,Indian Naxalites are not ready to join the political mainstream via the electoral route.
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#29 Posted by devendraboy on May 12, 2008 10:34:13 pm
Re: # 5
Unlike their Nepali counterparts,Indian Naxalites are not ready to join the political mainstream via the electoral route.
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#28 Posted by harimau on May 8, 2008 9:45:18 pm
Ref nasah #13

[Mujamdar and Kamath sahiban -- in India there are plenty of checks and balances except perhaps for the Modis of Gujrats.]

That is because Modi is the ckeck for Islamist thugs. Just remember, there has been NO communal riots in Gujarat for the last 5+ years.

Even Muslims can learn a lesson if it is taught appropriately!
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#27 Posted by harimau on May 8, 2008 9:43:15 pm
Ref nasah #5

[UPA can live with Kargill Musharraf -- it can live with the Burma tin soldiers -- it was ready to sell the arms to the Nepali King of Spade -- it can massage the feet of Uncle Sam for some nuclear hand-out -- but it can't live with its own nincompoop Naxalites?]

The Naxalites aren't the nincompoops; the UPA is.

Remember the Naxalits shot up a police station and killed about 250 persons in Jharkhand or Bihar? The great Indian nation is still inspecting its pubic hair for lice instead of trying to track the murderers down and hanging them.
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#26 Posted by harimau on May 8, 2008 9:35:56 pm
The British could very well have taken over Nepal in the 1800s. If they had done that, there would be no separate country called Nepal today. It would be part of Uttar Prdesh and Bihar. In fact, the British did take away most of the border areas from the kingdom of Nepal.

It takes the idiots who run India to fcuk up even those things that should be an easy steal. The only reason for Nepal to exist is to provide a vote for India in the UN when the crunch comes: for instance, in 1971 during the Indo-Pakistan war over Bangladesh. Other than that, Nepal isn't worth a pitcher of warm spit.

But, the mufukka Socialists of India under Jwahirullah Nehru had to educate that Maoist thug Prachanda at the JNU. The first thing that guy does is to call for re-negotiation of the Indo-Nepalese Treaty. I think India should actually re-negotiate the treaty; we should go into Katmandu, arrest that mufukka, try him for murder, drag him up to the gallows and tell him that that is part of the re-negotiations before we hang the bastard.

The US is right in refusing to lift the designation of Nepalese Maoists as terrorists.

Of course, the fcukers at JNU who don't miss any opportunity to shoot themselves in the b@lls want India to deal with Prachanda and the Govt of India sends that Commie Sitaram Yechury to talk with the Nepalese political parties on the formation of the new government.

Right time for a civic-minded Indian to shoot both Yechury and Prachanda while the opportunity presents itself.
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#25 Posted by dost_mittar on May 8, 2008 3:28:14 pm
nasah#19:

I both agree and disagree with you. All madrassas cannot be painted in the same colour. The Bihar Madrassa Board has one of the best performances of any school boards affliated with CBSE in India and there are Madrassas in Pune and other places which consistently produce excellent results; the problem is with those "uloom" which emphasise religious education at the cost of academic training. [didn't Raja Ram Mohan Roy study at a Madrassa?]. Unfortunately, more Muslim elite are willing to defend Islamic fundamentalism today than when I was a young adult in India.

On the caste, despite the current opression of dalits, I give more credit to the Hindu society than some others; the dent that the caste hierarchy has suffered in the last sixty years is more than the fossilised structure in the previous several millenia; what I find heartening is that the hindu elite is no longer willing to defend casteism (even though very few will be willing to marry their daughter/sister to a dalit boy (unless he reaches the super-brahmin caste of the IAS cadre).
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#24 Posted by stuka on May 8, 2008 12:22:13 pm
"it cannot be understood without taking into account the huge migration of Nepalese into India (also the migration of Indian traders to Nepal)""

This is crucial as the two distinct types of migrations have essentially built public perceptions of the other country. As a management trainee at the Yak and Yeti in Kathmandu, I saw Indian guests behave in a manner blatantly rude when it came to the Nepali staff. OTOH, occasional rudeness by an Indian would spread like wildfire amongts Nepali staff and would achieve almost mythical status.

Also, the Marwaris have penetrated the upper echelons of Nepal's private sector leading to a perception of "Indian involvement" even when the motivation is mercantile.
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#23 Posted by stuka on May 8, 2008 12:16:44 pm
"Upadhya asserts that Lainchaur Darbar – which refers to the neighborhood the Indian Embassy is located in the heart of Kathmandu – has become an important player in the domestic politics of Nepal. "

Interesting. The Indian Embassy is actually in Lazimpet, if I recall correctly. I used to live in Lainchaur, which is right next door. I do have to mention that the "Nepali population" referred to here is a misnomer. It is essentially the Newaris who are native to Kathmandu and the Rana elite who are Anti-India. Nepal's own record vis a vis the plains people (Madhesis) is not spotless either.

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#22 Posted by swarrier on May 8, 2008 12:03:40 pm
Re: # 21

That should have this link

http://newsblaze.com/story/20060606064241nnnn.nb/topstory.html
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#21 Posted by swarrier on May 8, 2008 12:02:46 pm
Re: # 20

Some people would beg to differ on GP Koirala and his actions

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#20 Posted by nasah on May 8, 2008 11:31:42 am
GT -- if the GP Koirala can meet the Maoist demands with such positive results why can't the UPA coalition with brotherly communists discuss the Naxalite demands?
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#19 Posted by nasah on May 8, 2008 11:27:42 am
DM --if the Muslims undoing is the retrograde fundamentalist madrassa Islam -- for the Hindus it is the cancer of casteism -- especially in the Ramayan belt of the Indo-Gangetic plains.The surprise is that in spite of the power shift in favor of the Dalits in Bihar and UP nothing has changed much.
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#18 Posted by dost_mittar on May 8, 2008 8:59:08 am
nasah:

Looks like you and GT know a lot more about the caste power structure in Bihar (and Orissa, Andhra, MP?) than I do. So, I should withdraw from this debate.
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#17 Posted by swarrier on May 8, 2008 8:36:28 am
Re: # 16

Wasn't he called Ashoka the cruel??

Yes if time permits, I bought a new wok by the way. I'm learning to stir fry.
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#16 Posted by GT on May 8, 2008 8:31:17 am
#15 Posted by swarrier:

According to me none .... but I am sure chowkies will come up with examples like Ashoka's society, the Moghul society, the present Pakistani/Indian society etc.

By the way, shall we be seeing you around?
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#15 Posted by swarrier on May 8, 2008 8:15:53 am
Re: # 13 Posted by Nasah

Nasah sahib
There are no checks and balances for anybody who can whip up communal or economic passions. Most of the checks and balances are usually a tad too late for the victims.

GT, which civilised or uncivlised society has respected the request of the marginalised unless they saw profit in it....??
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    #24 stuka
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