Can the Judiciary Save the Coalition?

Re: # 94

izuber sahib,

we started off on the wrong foot. This is what I wrote in reply to Hurricane sahib elsewhere.

Donot make any mistakes as I am a practicing Muslim, you seem to insinuate somehow I am not!!

Re: # 60

Hurricane sahib,

[Re:Kulharee, pakistan3,
izuber has said nothing offensive. You may think Islam is the root of all troubles, I think otherwise. It is a beautiful religion and I am hapy and proud to be a muslim.]

Hurricane sahib, where did I say anything against Islam? I am a practicing and passionate Muslim and resent being regarded otherwise.

I was talking in the context of some, taking it upon themselves to "evaluate" the Pakistani situation, social or otherwise, and dictate what Pakistan should or shouldn't look like when they chose not to live here themselves. As if we are part of some "experiment" for them.

By the same token, if where they live is SO bad and un Islamic, they are more than welcome to return to their motherland.

We can all share its fortunes and misfortunes, eat "aadhi roti" but with pride and make it work. No one should just assume the right to tel us what we should do when they don't actually live here!

Surely that is not a difficult point to understand?

I have to get going.

Allah nigehbaan

Re: # 90

"It is a disgusting discussion because it didn't suit your self riteous personality."

I would disagree that "it is a disgusting discussion" -- but I would agree that this discussion perhaps doesn't suit the self rioteous personality of anyone -- who lives in Karachi...:)

g'night...

Btw talking about radio, back in the 1980s, SW would catch Radio Moscow's clear english broadcasts, now they are missing, once in a while you can catch Voice of Russia, filling in the Vacuum however is China Radio International, with an American face but cruder propaganda than the more subtle propaganda of the VOA, BBC is still the best out there except when it comes to hot issues in which their pro-govt propaganda is quite obvious, like the Zimbabwe, Burma, China/Tibet case, it is quite blatant and much worse than what they used to broadcast in the past. On a clear night you can catch Radio Australia, and Radio Deutchevelle. Iranian radio broadcasts some leftist propaganda in English regularly. Radio Pakistan's broadcasts are still where they were back in the 1980s. Jesus-saves (freaks) from the US are all over the SW bands in order to fish souls for christ, and you can get all this "media freedom" for under Rs 300 ($4) if you can run into a Khan who is selling Chinese SW radios, freshly smuggled from the border.....enjoy

Re: # 87
Pakistan3 states:
"It is a disgusting discussion because it didn't suit your self riteous personality."

and then signs off as "idiot"

Had I known your level of "idiocracy" I would have saved some minutes and mileage responding to you as my brothers in Islam are better than your sign off.

the most vile way

pakistan3 writes "Before Mush, this WAS unthinkable in Pakistan, or wasn't it?

Let us give credit where it is due."

Horse shit. People who have lived in Pakistan pre 1999 coup know very well that i) CNN was being broadcast almost 24/7 free for all by the national television service
2) People had satellite dishes and could get assorted channels w/o censorship
3) Lahore could get Indian channels with the most vile anti Pak govt propaganda at time
4)BBC urdu was easily accessible with better more open analysis than anything on the current media to every chowkidar with an SW radio

In this context and in the changed relationship with the Americans who wanted inroads into this country (and who fund many of these channels) the Army propaganda machine allowed them to benefit from them, only when the military started using them against the current dictator to get his wardi off (with American support) did the fool (after claiming credit for all of them) clamp down in the mist vile way (worse than Zia ul Fcuk) to punish them and this country saw a media blackout unforseen before.

Now these goddamned a-hole generals like to take credit for everything, converting a propaganda noise generating nonsense as if it were freedom and when it goes against the implicit controls that are understood clamping on them- and denying censorship, the fact is they'd cut the toungue out of every Pakistani if they were to voice dissent that causes trouble for them. Information cannot be controlled, it couldn't before Musharraf and it certainly couldn't even when he clamped down on the media...

hamidm sahib before you flush the toilet, I must remind you that we are not just talking about CJ, there are 60 other judges too; and many more who resigned on the call of their conscience.

I still believe that the future of your superpower and its local chamchas and lotas in this country have been numbered.

Re: # 87

It is a disgusting discussion because it didn't suit your self riteous personality.

Idiots!

Go home to your confy beds now whilst we struggle with the load shedding, mosquitos, heat, and the like

Allah nigehbaan

Re: # 87
Understood HP, this needs to be concluded.

Re: # 86
Wake up Pakistan3, you cant survive without us, and your frequenting here is a proof of that, otherwise you would have gone back to your cage and stayed there.
When the people forget their creator/sustainer the wrath of Allah SWT descends in many shapes and forms like natural disasters, cruel rulers, shortage of food, famine and much more. Not only the Muslims of America but also some from other faiths as well become concerned about the "people" in Pakistan and do all they can to help their brotherhood in that part of the world.
But, it hurts to see the arrogance of some brainless emotional people alike you and all we can say is a prayer that Allah SWT comforts you folks better than he has provided for us so that you get out of this envying, ameen.
According to a Hadith, the Prophet PBUH has recommended that when you see or feel that another person has something that your eyes cant avoid, dont envy, instead pray to Allah SWT(sincerity is a must) seeking for yourself as well, as Allah SWT is pleased when you dont envy and seek.
Come to senses Pakistan3.

How abt people who came to Pakistan after leaving their lands, go back to their original places?

We are the sons of the soil...Pakistan or no Pakistan, we still would own that land, that country.

This is a disgusting discussions. No more posts from me.

Re: # 85

Good. Take them with you. Get them visas and all that.
We have enough people as it is.

You ex-Pakistanis are worse than the Americans and British that we have to deal with.

In the last ten years the price of land has risen beyond what the locals can afford. Because of "overseas Pakistanis" buying "investment land" in this country.

Now we have to compete with you to literally survive hand to mouth, so idiots like you can come once a year and brag about their achievements!

Shame on you, all of you.

Like I said, have your fun with your bid talks and all but don't dictate like you own this land. You don't!

Allah Nigehbaan

#83 Posted by pakistan3

I am not into childish discussions. It is true Pakistan is for the people but the army is not the people. They are the servants. The army and its generals like Musharaf do get credit for ruining that country.

Lastly, we cannot leave our families, our lands, and our fathers and mothers, who still live in Pakistan, in the hands of a bunch of criminals also known as the Pakistan Army Generals.

Civilian demands, ah, those are for some civilized societies not the robbers, theifs and hoodlums who believe in the system of Might is Right.
If you are the first one to slap the other driver after an accident you are the winner this is only a small example.
None other than Musharaf in those living today would have served Pakistan in the manner Musharaf and his govt did and no one did so since the time of Ayub Khan.
But it is our tradition to put holes in the same plate that we eat from, so be it, only Allah SWT can guide the misguided and astray ones, may HE bless the Muslims of Pakistan with better wisdom and resolve, ameen.

Re: # 80

You people are disgusting. You have left this country so get used to that idea. We live here and it is for us to decide what we need.

You self riteous bunch think you have a God given right but you don't.

Leave us poor Pakistanis to solve our own problems. They are not your problems anymore.

Kindest regards