Can the Judiciary Save the Coalition?

How abt people who came to Pakistan after leaving their lands, go back to their original places?

We are the sons of the soil...Pakistan or no Pakistan, we still would own that land, that country.

This is a disgusting discussions. No more posts from me.

Re: # 85

Good. Take them with you. Get them visas and all that.
We have enough people as it is.

You ex-Pakistanis are worse than the Americans and British that we have to deal with.

In the last ten years the price of land has risen beyond what the locals can afford. Because of "overseas Pakistanis" buying "investment land" in this country.

Now we have to compete with you to literally survive hand to mouth, so idiots like you can come once a year and brag about their achievements!

Shame on you, all of you.

Like I said, have your fun with your bid talks and all but don't dictate like you own this land. You don't!

Allah Nigehbaan

#83 Posted by pakistan3

I am not into childish discussions. It is true Pakistan is for the people but the army is not the people. They are the servants. The army and its generals like Musharaf do get credit for ruining that country.

Lastly, we cannot leave our families, our lands, and our fathers and mothers, who still live in Pakistan, in the hands of a bunch of criminals also known as the Pakistan Army Generals.

Civilian demands, ah, those are for some civilized societies not the robbers, theifs and hoodlums who believe in the system of Might is Right.
If you are the first one to slap the other driver after an accident you are the winner this is only a small example.
None other than Musharaf in those living today would have served Pakistan in the manner Musharaf and his govt did and no one did so since the time of Ayub Khan.
But it is our tradition to put holes in the same plate that we eat from, so be it, only Allah SWT can guide the misguided and astray ones, may HE bless the Muslims of Pakistan with better wisdom and resolve, ameen.

Re: # 80

You people are disgusting. You have left this country so get used to that idea. We live here and it is for us to decide what we need.

You self riteous bunch think you have a God given right but you don't.

Leave us poor Pakistanis to solve our own problems. They are not your problems anymore.

Kindest regards

nasah:

These are timeless sayings and have nothing to do with the Italian woman. And Urstruly is right in giving the exact translation of "lundee".

Re: # 80

HP sahib,

you don't half talk a lot of rubbish and you know it.

where was this "freedom" before Mush? Pakistan has gone through similar "dictatorships" before. Yoy don't remember that as you live overseas. We do as we live there day by day. That is the difference.

Like I said before, you overseas Pakistanis should leave us poor Pakistanis to work out our own problems. You donot belong here anymore.

Kindest regards

#79 Posted by pakistan3

"Do you think we should say thank you to Musharraf for that?"
Ridiculous! The credit should go to the people who fought for the Press freedom. Mush was forced to accept it and as soon as the his own power was shaken, he clamped down on the media.

Using your idea, should we also thank him for restricting the media for opposing him?

The media is talking again because of the civilians. As soon as the parliament is gone, Mush and the army will shut down the media again!

Re: # 77

HP sahib,

(Interestingly, what we published underground then is now main stream.)

Do you think we should say thank you to Musharraf for that?

Before Mush, this WAS unthinkable in Pakistan, or wasn't it?

Let us give credit where it is due.

Even in the "democratic" days of Bhutto(Z), there was no such freedom of media.

kindest regards.

Hamid, I admire your way of telling the truth.

"mushy owns the toilet,"

The CJ issue is not abt the man, droopy eyes or not, it is abt a civilian demand and the first one ever in Pakistan's history . So its significance should not be lost.

The civilians may lose out on this as the opposition the toilet owner, the army , and the US currently have more guns in their arsenals.

When a political struggle starts, its initial failure opens the doors for successes in other areas. Though I just don't think that it is a good idea to lose the parliament over the issue but if they do, they will come back even more stronger and perhaps the loss of parliament would also put dents in the Pak army and US Armour in Pakistan. If nothing else, we might just have a new toilet owner and that would be a victory!

#68 Posted by masadi

Your article captures the essence of what’s going on and the game that is being played there.
Shame on Chowk staff for not publishing it.

I would again say that you start sending your article to newspapers in Pakistan. You may hit some self-censorship initially but the way the crisis is deepening, the newspapers too would be forced to publish the truth.

Long time ago in Pakistan, we had an underground press and many political groups used to print their own cyclo-styled magazines. Then we bought a photocopying machine and used to photocopy and distribute magazines.

Interestingly, what we published underground then is now main stream.
You should not rely on Chowk to publish your articles. Chowk has very limited and now dwindling audience due to the level of the discussions here.

There are some Pakistani sites with wider audience and controlled discussions and no Indian trolls. I am sure they will publish you.

Re: # 67

urstruly,

"THe cj issue will flush the political future of all three of them down the toilet. "

..... i beg to disagree, but the cj will be flushed down the toilet along with the toilet paper sticking to him ..... mushy owns the toilet, the toilet paper, the lotas and, if he needs it, he also has the kiyani plunger .....

Re: # 72

I think the correct translation is "....presided over by a useless one-armed woman."

Re: # 72

I think the correct translation is "....presided over by a useless one-armed woman."

"useless" woman? -- doesn't it sound a little chauvinistic -- even for that head of the Itali Congress?

DM -- please explain the background of this 'misogyn' "kahawat"...:)

nasah:

It refers to a place where thieves and pickpockets are the leaders, presided over by a useless woman.