Can the Judiciary Save the Coalition?

Coincinding with Zardari's meeting with Altaf Hussein yesterday was the meeting of the whore (US Ambassador) with the MQM leadership in Karachi yesterday, not to mention the US invitation to the mayor of Karachi who is/was in the US this past week, and the meeting in Dubai that Anne W(hore) Peterson had with the MQM in Dubai two weeks back. Seems like micro managing political alliances to me. If Musharraf wasn't there the N would just as soon blend into the status quo, it is a blessing for us that he is, so the N has a grudge, and if taken to its logical conclusion (the restoration of the judges and the removal of the a-hole) it will be more beneficial to the political process in this country than having no a-hole to begin with. The 9 years that he destroyed this country piece by piece is lost, than can never be recovered...

Hp

"So stop crying over the CJ. I hope people keep fighting and someday you will have more than one principled CJ."

The CJ is no hero, he is as corrupt and as partial as any one before him and after him. Only fact is that he turned out to be anti mushy that is all which found a vibe with not the paki public, but with a few lawyers.

This CJ was not impartial or upheld the law, his talk about burying the doctrine of necessity whih has been upheld and found valid by the supre court several times, he wanted to bury it.

Hence he was sacked, because he was planning to unseat mushy.

It will be the doom of pakistan when more such CJs emerge.

A visionary pakistani.

Political future


AS of today the following scenario best fits our political future: Pervez Musharraf and Asif Ali Zardari cannot afford to reinstate Iftikhar Chaudhary. The May 12 deadline passes without event.

The Pakistan Muslim League (N) is forced to quit the coalition. The lawyers, the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (Qazi group), the PML(N), the TI, society as a whole take to the streets. Everything comes to a standstill and there is chaos.

Mr Musharraf is happy, the Americans are delighted, Mr Zardari goes away to enjoy his billions and Mr Kayani takes over to bring peace and prosperity to the nation and promises elections in 60 days.

HAROON PARACHA
Karachi

The poor people of pakistan seeking the rule of law in the country and asking for CJs restoration should realise that the entire country and all walks of society in pakistan are corrupt, and pakistan deserves euthenasia.

Cry pakis cry


33pc of exports are fake, minister told



By Parvaiz Ishfaq Rana


KARACHI, May 9: The federal commerce minister was briefed about the issue of fraudulent exports in a meeting of the Export Advisory Committee held in Islamabad recently to discuss the new trade policy.

Shahid Khaqan Abbasi was informed that certain exporters mis-declared their goods to take undue advantage of the export incentives. They are sending cotton/textile waste in the name of leather garments to claim higher rate of duty drawback, a source privy to the meeting told Dawn.

Asadi,
I think you have met some block. It could be the current day to day charged up environments in Pakistan or for some reason you have stopped thinking.

“If they are not restored and it seems they wont be, like I said, it will damage the political parties- as you also seem to concur regarding Sind- and the military will emerge from this stronger than ever.”

You obviously don’t know the Sindh situation. There aren’t very many choices. Sindhi don’t like the deal but they are stuck with the PPP. In fact, it is the situation in Sindh that is forcing the PPP to stay in power. Only the Pmln has tied its political fortunes with the Judiciary issue. Other parties are not in the assemblies. So only Nawaz would worry abt the fall out.

“Therefore this was at this time, the issue #1 facing the country and its future which has apparently been squandered, it can be salvaged by the PML-N quitting the govt, resigning from the parliament,”

It was issue #1 in Punjab and not in any other province.
Quitting the assemblies would be suicidal. Nawaz has no strength on the streets. He is not the type of politician who works the streets. He needs to stay in the coalition and let the lawyers and other parties take the streets. He needs to hang on to the Punjab government for as long as he could to allow the lawyers and others to build momentum. But my thinking is that as soon as he leaves the federal Govt, the army would exert pressure on the PPP to remove his party from power in Punjab. They will use the PPP and not Musharaf to do that. If he quits the assemblies, he would be giving up 90 seats to the army’s handpicked people. We also need to understand that NAWAZ has limits. He is no revolutionary. He is approachable and he will be kept as an alternate to play the musical chairs that the army orchestrated in the 80s and 90s.

You see the things would continue to get grimmer and with economic and the power situation in the country as it is now, no one knows how people would respond. If it gets ugly, we may see the army on the streets but I am sure that the agencies are working on all the scenarios too. The process to break up the PMLn would also start immediately after Nawaz leaves the Fed government.

HP writes "Only the Pmln has tied its political fortunes with the Judiciary issue. Other parties are not in the assemblies. So only Nawaz would worry abt the fall out."

This is certainly not the case, 81% want the restoration of the judges not because they love the CJ but because they hate Musharraf. When the PPP agreed to this and then waffled, it is seen as being in bed with the military and with Musharraf- that will not sit well with the people of Sindh, just as it will not sit well with the people of Punjab. The N if it quits, resigns and takes to the street will develop "street power" because of the changed situation, it will boost the lawyers movement and bring to an end this farcial elections attempt to maintain the status quo. I have thought this out and I still maintain what I said. This issue is a make or break issue for current political inroads through the present parliament for the people. The military will emerge stronger from the whole scenario if the N decides to stay and the judges are not restored, and the PPP will be destroyed as a people's political party by hobnobbing with the generals and their excrement (Musharraf). No question about it. It is a very different country now and NS can very well emerge as the street politician if he breaks from this farce. His personal grudge against Musharraf gives us hope towards that end. The status quo and working within the same structure that manipulates and corrupts politicians all for the purpose of strengthning the military and the US in our affairs will not achieve anything. The military has meticuloulsy planned the destruction of the PPP and Zardari is helping them achieve their end....

the New Q in the making (PPP) will suffer the same fate as the old Q, it will be converted into nothing if the military is successful in getting what it wants....

Elections carried out after military manipulations and a declaration of emergency, not to mention the butchering of the main political party's leader, and then dictating to that party whose leadership was usurped by a thug who has no political history in that party, who is trying to legitimize the entire thing including the emergency, where reconciliation means getting everyone on board with the military and destroying the legitimacy of any and every civilian alternative to it, by wiping out the major political parties support, can never get anything accomplished for the people period. That is why the stand on the judiciary is issue #1 facing this nation, that first step will go a long way in changing this structure of manipulation, and it will be a major (not a minor) defeat for the military in political affairs. That is why I say, it is priority #1, regardless of the thuggish nature of the CJ. Call it a mental "block", but I fail to see any alternative whatsoever...

later.........

Re: # 41

masadi saab says "later......... "

how much later saab?
may be we are lucky, never? saab
time for medicine saab, easty is bringing it today saab

before you say it masadi saab, i'll just go and F__myself saab.

but you need to show me how you do it to yourself once again saab

#40 Posted by masadi
"but I fail to see any alternative whatsoever..."

Well we will see. I think you will figure out the realities of the Pakistani politics. There may not be an alternate but is it doable or even practical to think now considering the political leadership in Pakistan.

well, well, well !

...... i am glad i did not totally drop my support for musharraf ...... he has these foolish, compromized, corrupt, incompetent and cowardly politicians running from dubai to london and pillar to post while he sits in his camp office and my man sheikh rashid sits across town in lal haveli ........ sheikh sahib, don't worry - just walk down the street and have some piping hot nihari or murgh cholay .... you will be back soon ........ and shame on the people of pindi for deserting a man who has always stood by them ........ lanat on these rajas and their khotis !

president musharraf zindabad!
sheikh rashid zindabad!

hp,

.... in a year or so nawaz sharif will be sitting in dubai and people will be saying, "nawaz sharif? who?" ..... and in another five years zardari will be exile in london and people will be saying "good riddance to bad rubbish" ...

.... it is sad ... really, i mean it

Re: # 46
Any chance you can give less than 5 years to zardari
it looks like eternity.

Well Hamid,

This is may be true but not because the army would sent them away. Public may just refuse to look at their faces.

I see your disappointment despite your posts to Tahmed.
Like you I think it is bad but the reality is different and we need to be mature enough to deal with it. You see on this thread Urstruly sounds like he is abt to commit suicide anytime.