Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice

pakistan3,

I am sympathetic to your views about Overseas Pakistanis. Most of them become pineapples (brown outside-white inside). I share your general opinion. There are dozens of them here. Zeena is NOT one of those. There are a few others as well like Urstruly. Then there are some who actually moved back and are as committed as you such as masadi and bulleya. Some retaliate, some don't. I myself was an Overseas Pakistani but moved back because there's nothing like your own country, and one must never knock their own country. Not many people are in a position or circumstances are able to do that even if they wanted to.

My friend, Zeena is no one to be steamrolled. She gives back equally or more as given. That doesn't detract anything from her working in Pakistan's interests in ALL areas where she can, wherever she may be.

Re: # 293

to add to that, we need realistic people to help us build this country and not those "overseas Pakistanis" that see the fantasy that is Pakistan for them (because of some guilt complex they harbor) and not Pakistan the Reality.

Allah Nigehban

Zeena:

Your actions have spoken many times louder. Is it necessary to use harsher words with others?

Re: # 290

Zeemax,

I have read this woman's rants before. Totally uncalled for if I am allowed to say this.

Accusing average Pakistanis for "not working hard enough" is proposterous. And before you tell me about her burns hospital or any other achievements, good as they may be, donot justify her attitude.

We in Pakistan, presumably that includes you too, have gone through difficult times and still are, but we stuck around. I am sure if Zeena decides to return, Pakistan will welcome her with open arms. Until such time, she should keep her self righteous opinions to herself.

As for the language used by this woman against many before, believe you me I am capable of matching her with no issues whatsoever if that is what she chooses.

I am sure we'll talk again on the subject.

Until then, Allah Nigehban.

#283 zeemax
Thanks for your correct statement.

#282 Re:pakistan3
Yes,I do support Hillary Clinton and that's my perorgative to strongly support whomever I feel better for all of us.

And where ever I live , just remember one thing...I am all for my country,Pakistan.

#283 zeemax
Thanks for your correct statement.

#282 Re:pakistan3
Yes,I do support Hillary Clinton and that's my perorgative to strongly support whomever I feel better for all of us.

And where ever I live , just remember one thing...I am all for my country,Pakistan.

#284 Posted by pakistan3,

This business makes me angry when people living overseas try to dictate what I should or shouldn't do in my own country.

Zeena feels more strongly about Pakistan than MANY Pakistanis living in Pakistan itself. Stick around and you will know the character of most Pakistanis on this forum.

#279 Posted by Goldfinger

While I agree with you that obsession with politicians is unhealthy, I also believe that no matter what their shortcomings, they are invariably better than the non political characters that descend on the throne brandishing their bright shining scimitars, wearing colorful stripes on the chests, and are only answerable to a bunch of others like them, but just a notch below in rank.

When you climb down from Empyrean to empirical, you will notice that the last messiah or one person that presumably tried to change the world passed away eons ago. Since then humanity has to deal with the mere mortals and as we know they are not perfect. The politicians collect all the scars, scotches, good looks, and quality suits on their way to the stardom.

While Bhutto had many problems, like the rest of the politicians the world over, he was a wee bit better in at least one regard. There was some one who could have taken him down and he did. But when the god’s gift to the citizenry took over, the people did not even have anyone but God left to take him down.

In Pakistan, we like to believe that when a civilian becomes the PM, the era of democracy ushers in and all of a sudden, we want that PM to sell his properties, his suits, stay away from drinking and if you are of a particular bent, offer prayers five times a day.

Pakistan, its politicians, Judges, lawyers, and the wardiposh still have to learn a lot about democracy. But as they say, you can’t learn a new trade without making a few mistakes on the way. Consider the Bhuttos both the father and the daughter, the Son in Law, the Sundance kid and Butch Cassidy of our country as our mistakes that would eventually get us to a point when we would believe that we have learned from the mistakes and we have a democratic country. Even at that point, we still would not have the perfect one that you so feverishly desire, to lead us.

Sorry for this rambling post but the crux of the matter is that there is no point in abusing civilian politicians when your only other choice is some scimitar wielding, god's gift who is a master blaster of every language and every diction due to his degreed education at kakul.

I hope you post often.

Re: # 223 Rr. Arjun hope you behave yourself so will not be banned again shortly.
Yes as you said S & P ratiing down grading was not bad but Moody down grading hurt market and circuit breakers were in action. There one problem in rating as it is very biased ( full of indians in both organization), Hope you will agree to that.

Re: # 223 Rr. Arjun hope you behave yourself so will not be banned again shortly.
Yes as you said S & P ratiing down grading was not bad but Moody down grading hurt market and circuit breakers were in action. There one problem in rating as it is very biased ( full of indians in both organization), Hope you will agree to that.

Re: # 223 Rr. Arjun hope you behave yourself so will not be banned again shortly.
Yes as you said S & P ratiing down grading was not bad but Moody down grading hurt market and circuit breakers were in action. There one problem in rating as it is very biased ( full of indians in both organization), Hope you will agree to that.

Re: # 223 Rr. Arjun hope you behave yourself so will not be banned again shortly.
Yes as you said S & P ratiing down grading was not bad but Moody down grading hurt market and circuit breakers were in action. There one problem in rating as it is very biased ( full of indians in both organization), Hope you will agree to that.

Re: # 283

Zeemax,

Yes I joined a month or so ago.

I take your advice wrt Zeena. This business makes me angry when people living overseas try to dictate what I should or shouldn't do in my own country.

Allah Nigehban

pakistan3,

Zeena Bhabi sey panga liya tau pachtao gey ... you're new I guess!

Re: # 281

Zeena,

(pakistan3 aka multiple nicks baigharat)

I can assure you this is the only nic I have.

(because of shameless and baigharat people like you who feel no shame , absolutely no shame when it comes to American SLAVERY, you close your eyes and beg in front of America for making ends meet.)

I live, work and contribute in Pakistan. May I ask where you live? I recently came across your rants supporting Hilary Clinton.

Need I say more about anything else you wrote?

RE:#124 pakistan3
pakistan3 aka multiple nicks baigharat

You want to know why I am ashamed and sad? because of shameless and baigharat people like you who feel no shame , absolutely no shame when it comes to American SLAVERY, you close your eyes and beg in front of America for making ends meet.....

Do you even care Pakistan was sold to Americans just few years after getting freedom from Britishers? Why?
Just b/c of morons like you who're pathologically sheepish who don't have nerves and minds to run their own country in accurate ways and are so much used to of first Brit's slavery followed by American Salvery.....

Pakistan is down the hell just because of sissies like you who hiding behind anon nick with no courage even to reveal his/her identity taking pot shots on those good people who are not in Pakistan, but are working hard day and night and helping Pakistan in every way possible to revive Pakistan's torn down image......we're those patriots who are feeling heartaches for Pakistan's helplessness in front of dirty dictators, dirty politicians and Pakistan's MASTER.....

Do you know? each and every Pakistani and their generations to come are dependent on American Aid...And they don't even have any courage and strength to stand on their own like their next door India....

Do you know? India is now almost a super power and China next door is already a super power, these two countries are new Asian tigers which can look in to the eyes to other super powers with their integrity and self respect, which Pakistan lost by accpeting happily American Slavery......

And BTW are you owner of Pakistan? Those who're living abroad have more right to Pakistan than cowards like you who're always begging infront of American aid....

Pakistanis like you don't like to work , they know Americans will always take care of your needs......and anytime you'll have financial problem, your master America is there to meet your basic needs.....you're born slaves....

Just think about it...
Mr.Pakistan3, my foot.....