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Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice

William Dalrymple May 21, 2008

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#280 Posted by Kulharee on May 23, 2008 8:35:24 pm
Beej Yaar, I read a couple of pieces written about her in the NYTimes after BB’s death. It is nauseating that these people really believe that they are the rightful owners of all of Pakistanis and the only job suitable for them is to be the rulers. Her garbage about all kinds of theories about who killed her father, without any proof or substantiation is just a load of bull. May be her step mother had a hand in Murtaza’s death? Now even that decoration piece wants to be nothing less than a ruler. Do these people have any friggin shame?

Anil Yaar, Masadi Sahib is very passionate about Pakistani politics but sometimes his passion makes him nutty to fall into a deep peculiarity to place bets on a losing mare. I don’t know what he sees in Fatima. I think he is easily impressed. As a proud Pakistani, I have much higher standards.
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#279 Posted by Goldfinger on May 23, 2008 8:25:55 pm
Re: # 260 says Masadi:"I write facts about the man which you counter with "he jetsetted around the globe" as rebuttal, needless to say, you're a certified fool."

Along with jetsetted the world try also the rather more interesting pastimes of hypocrisy, megalomania, misrule, planning to murder political foes, destruction of economy and consorting to have the nation split apart and civil war. Not your fault though, probably the smoke is making you to remember things only partially.
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#278 Posted by anil on May 23, 2008 7:32:24 pm
Re: # 276
Kulharee Sahib:

"....uncles ... and Masadi..."

Please do not make Massaddi Mian an uncle. He is so good for nothing, and then now he would useless uncle on top of it.
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#277 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2008 7:32:17 pm
#276 Kulharee

Yaar, that's highly unfair. First, Ms. Fatima Bhutto is not a politician but a poet. Second, she has shown no interest in any of those shady deals which Pakistani politicians, khakis, mullahs, etc. make left and right. Her interest is limited to bringing to light the circumstances of her dad's death and hopefully - and this is clearly a long shot - bring to some sort of justice those who were responsible. My good wishes and prayers are with her.

Sometimes, you Pakistanis - especially the males - can be so cruel that I am glad to disclaim any association with you all!

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#276 Posted by Kulharee on May 23, 2008 5:04:32 pm
Fatima, don’t listen to uncles Ras and Masadi, listen to uncle Kulharee. Learn to cook and do laundry like 98% women in your country do. Your family has sacrificed enough for this country, and have also looted it for more than their fair share. It’s time for a new and different leadership. We are waiting for someone who can stand upto the religious and army thugs. Bhuttos have proven to be ball-less schmucks. Your grandpa gave into Mullahs and declared a perfectly alright community outside the fold of Islam, your aunt (may she rest is peace) according to you was responsible for your Father’s death. Why the freck do you think that we should trust another one from Bhutto family? What if you turn out to be worse than your grandpa and aunt? Your family has a very poor track record – your aunt left her teenage son in-charge of a political party as if it was your father’s sultanate. If you want to really help Pakistanis, go and teach at an elementary school. Pakistan needs good and dedicated teachers like Masadi.
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#275 Posted by sattar2 on May 23, 2008 3:55:45 pm
tahmed (#93),

Here’s my take on things: Early on, you and I used to discuss topics. We had different opinions but all was fine – no issues.

Things went south when you made some very lewd, third-rate comments about me (involving me and a female chowkie) … while unleashing a morality tirade. At one point you were not above dragging Mrs. Sattar in your tirade. I was taken by surprise by your accusations … but told you - in clear language - about your incorrect assumptions … and what you should do with your misplaced morality agenda.

This episode played out repeatedly on several boards, over time. At one point you even tried to blame me for supposedly misunderstanding you. No deal! … was my position, which did not sit well with you as I told you off. And things continue to slide downhill …

I’ve left out the details for good reasons. You may want to review your own assumptions, attitude, and outlook before shifting the blame on others. I can’t speak for others you named … I don’t know what transpired between you and them …

… but I know for sure what transpired between you and me. Your comments were crude and disgusting. And you are a fool if you think you wouldn’t lose my respect; you most certainly did.

Back to Fatima Bhutto …
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#274 Posted by bjkumar on May 23, 2008 1:50:43 pm
VRV,

Zeemax is a foolish jihadi idiot. There is no need to respond to any of his countless moronic posts.

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#273 Posted by VRV on May 23, 2008 1:36:34 pm
Zaradai had that advantage of police supplying gaals to his prison. Gandhi cant have that given by the Brit police. Sad :(
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#272 Posted by zeemax on May 23, 2008 1:33:12 pm
Did Gandhi have his nieces in the Agha Khan Palace along ????
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#271 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 23, 2008 12:56:10 pm
#269.. I think "put forth" is the only bit of truth in your post :)
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#270 Posted by VRV on May 23, 2008 12:52:49 pm
OMG, Yasser is back to what he's best at??

What's the point highlighting abt Aga Khan Palace when that gandoo (i.e Gandhi) never enjoyed luxuries? Neither Gandhi wanted to be imprisoned at AKP nor he's yearned to enjoy the pleasures of luxury. He never even had proper meals in his life during hs political career (chana and tomatoes, ornage juice etc.,).

It's worng to assume that he was in AC rooms of that Palace, slept on luxuty beds and sat in expensive sofas of the chandeliored rooms. It's correct to say that Gandhi also spent his incarceration at Yarwada Prison in Poona.

Yasser, U r incorrigible.
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#269 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 12:51:30 pm
#268 Army apologist and pervert Leadenwinter writes "masadi... you are by far the silliest creature on the face of the planet... "

That is what I expect from your kind of immoral retards, ad hominem, you cannot and have not been able to approach a single one of my arguments that I have quite solidly put forth in my posts on chowk including the one on your dimwitted piece on why Army rule is best for Pakistan...
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#268 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 23, 2008 12:39:01 pm
masadi... you are by far the silliest creature on the face of the planet... I seriously think you should stop smoking whatever it is that keeps you in this perpetual state of self satisfied delusion.
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#267 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 12:33:01 pm
Correction "hold meetings with the Q,"

as " hold meetings with the N
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#266 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 12:30:58 pm
g'night
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#265 Posted by masadi on May 23, 2008 12:30:11 pm
Ras writes "Fatima,

some advice from this "Old Uncle" who just means well.

You are young and idealistic (like your father).

It is time you got married and had a family of your own.

Ten years from now you will be needed by your country

and its people. Till then stay out of the way and continue

your writing.

Your Aunt, in spite of your family problems was not

responsible for your father's death. We do not know about

the rest.

In the mean time I do not know what "William Uncle" is up

to, but I would advise caution in the near future in

your media exposure. Patience is a virtue!"


"Fatima, some advice from masadi who means well not only for you but for this nation.

You are young and idealistic which is a good thing for producing sincere action. Marriage and family will add complications both to your idealism as well as what you can achieve. Your country is a changed country now. In ten years due to American/Pakistan Army shenanigans, new thugs will be incorporated and mainstreamed so you need to take action NOW. Continue your writing of course, but try to push your way into the power structure of this country. Join the lawyer's movement and the other assorted boycotters and give the establishment hell. Call BS on the PPP leadership, hold meetings with the Q, get media exposure, and "jetset" around the globe to expose the Pakistan Army and US BS in this nation. The people will go with you and not with the thug who now occupies the leadership position of your grandfather's party by default. Regarding who murdered your father, you should know that people of greater power than BB and the thug did it but both of them sure did benefit from it, the establishmentized PPP was more convenient to the powers that be than one which might fall into the hands of an unpredictible maverick. Now, be smart like your grandfather and not dumb like your aunt, the country has changed, join the resistance and save ZAB's people's movement that is being f'kd by the thug sitting in its command post...Finally, if you do make it through, I will be available for a brief appointment to the foreign ministry just so long as I can tell the Americans on their face and on public TV to "go F themselves", then you can appoint someone else if you so please.

Sincerely,

masadi
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