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Pakistan's Nuclear Test - Ten Years Later

Pervez Hoodbhoy May 28, 2008

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#397 Posted by HP on June 3, 2008 2:20:08 pm

"but the present is no different than the past "
How could you say that hamid?

Did you not see the grand warrior Burhamdagh Bugti on TV with all that beard and chaste urdu tinged with Persian. I was mesmerized and could not believe how times have changed.
He could become a good anchor person for Geo instead of that nutso Hamid....
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#396 Posted by hamidm2 on June 3, 2008 2:10:06 pm
Re: # 395

hp,

but the present is no different than the past - it is deja vous all over again ! .... and we have already seen the future .... sorry
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#395 Posted by HP on June 3, 2008 2:07:31 pm
"it is time to go back to the real world "

Hamid,
we can't turn the clock back..You are stuck with fitay moonh, droopy eyes or not!

Tahmed still can't find sirat e Mustaqeem but he working on it!


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#394 Posted by hamidm2 on June 3, 2008 1:58:40 pm
Re: # 393

rr and hp.

..... tahmed proves my point ..... he is the second coming of sheikh chilli .....
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#393 Posted by hamidm2 on June 3, 2008 1:57:00 pm
sr and hp,

.... i think we pakis have started to take ourselves too seriously in the recent past .... it is as if we actually believe that all this hullabaloo about restoration of democracy and dignity of the common man is for real ...... it is not - it is business as usual and we can save everyone a lot of hearburn and heartache by accepting reality .......

..... it was nice to play at fair and free elections, constitutionalism, independence of judiciary, rule of law and all those other trappings of a civilized society, but now it is time to go back to the real world ....... sorry for the rude reminder
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#392 Posted by tahmed32 on June 3, 2008 1:54:17 pm
#391 hamidm: you write gazillions of posts on pakistan politics, then turn around and claim that all this does not matter to you in your loft perch in the US. this makes you seem as fake as kiani's wig..

not just that, your gazillions of posts are dripping with lotaism that reflect either some personal stake or worse..mere "aadat say majboor".
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#391 Posted by hamidm2 on June 3, 2008 1:39:03 pm



... to be honest, all this stuff really doesn't matter ...... like they say in the mother tongue, "kiya pidi, kya pidi ka shorba' ....... what really matters is that the redwings lost at 1:00 am this morning in the third overtime ..... tomorrow i am going to joe louis arena and watch them on the big screen along with a couple of thousand beer guzzling fellow detroiters ......

......for all i care, they can drop the big bomb on miranshah and mirali and wana and all those godforsaken places ......... as far as the civilized world is concerned a couple of thousand dead third world types is no big loss for mankind ..... it is not as if one of them was going to cure cancer or write a symphony ....

..... but i am glad that the constitutional package to reinstate the droopy-eyed judge and establish democracy will be reviewed by a joint ppp-pml(n) committee after the budget session ...... and after that i am sure it will be presented to maulana fazloo, the army, tahmed's third cousin, bala the doodh wala and then washington ...... and then what ? ....... who cares ... by that time sheikh rashid will be the prime minister and masadi will be his cook ........

aml zindabad !
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#390 Posted by SR on June 3, 2008 12:59:30 pm
Masadi-esque ? Chaos -- anarchist's goal...!! Anarchy -- marxist's tool --- soul selling capitalist...?

Wow...!!!

I've been admonished in my time, but never with such ferocity and so elegently. Being compared to "master Masadi" is a new slur word. When it passes on into The New Webster's Unabridged, Chowk dot com must get a citation.

Which one are you?

I am an anarchic-marxist-capitalist, if that means something. But one thing I am not is an extremist bigoted anything. To borrow Naseem Taleb's term, I may claim to be a skeptical empericist.

...SR
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#389 Posted by HP on June 3, 2008 12:56:57 pm
#386 Posted by SR
"Why? What are we waiting for?"

I have lots of chores to finish before I leave home for any mission:) Thats why I need you to slowdown, unless you wanna go ahead all by yourself.

"But the point is still that many of those who stoop to the depths of our Danish bombers in the mistaken notion of retaliation against tauheen-e-rasalat "

True, but Qadianis can laugh at a similar video that might have a caricature of other prophets in it. Ask Kulahree.
Bottom line: they are all similar because they allow themselves to be led by dogma.

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#388 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 3, 2008 12:40:47 pm
not no= not know ....oooppps sorry
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#387 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 3, 2008 12:39:40 pm
SR:Let the centrifugal forces tear down the edifice of this petty pseudo-empire along with its rotting imperial military, its necrotic colonial bureaucracy and its putrefied feudal aristocracy.

so Masadi-isk. If you removed your ID on the interact as SR and put in Masadi, people would not no the difference?

Aren't you over dramatising the whole thing? Chaos is the goal of the anarchists, while anarchy is the tool of the Marxists and the revolutionaries. Which one are you? Still you have sold your soul for the soles of a capitalist!
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#386 Posted by SR on June 3, 2008 12:38:46 pm
Re: # 383 HP ["...You are dramatizing it. There are tons of Muslims in Pakistan alone who would condemn this kind of Bigotry..."]

Yes, you are right. Of course I am dramatizing. Everyone knows that. I am a Punjabi Muslim and I, along with many of my friends, have always condemned such bigotry.

That was meant to be a rhetorical statement.

But the point is still that many of those who stoop to the depths of our Danish bombers in the mistaken notion of retaliation against tauheen-e-rasalat are the very same ones who would roll over laughing at the Quadiani mockery video.

...SR

PS: Ref 385 "...Slow down, one step at a time..."

Why? What are we waiting for? Nayk kaam meiN daair kuyuN Why fight the inevitability of the historical process?
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#385 Posted by HP on June 3, 2008 12:31:54 pm
"Let the centrifugal forces tear down the edifice of this petty pseudo-empire along with its rotting imperial military, its necrotic colonial bureaucracy and its putrefied feudal aristocracy."

Not so fast! Slow down, One step at a time!:)
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#384 Posted by SR on June 3, 2008 12:26:55 pm
Re: # 381 HP ["... Baloch need all the support they can GET..."]

Amen to that...

Let the centrifugal forces tear down the edifice of this petty pseudo-empire along with its rotting imperial military, its necrotic colonial bureaucracy and its putrefied feudal aristocracy.

...SR
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#383 Posted by HP on June 3, 2008 12:26:21 pm
#382 Posted by SR

"Is there a single Muslim among more than a billion strong who has the integrity to condemn this openly?"

You are dramatizing it. There are tons of Muslims in Pakistan alone who would condemn this kind of Bigotry.
There is nothing against Qadianis in many parts of Pakistan. And they are Muslims.
This is a Punjabi issue and not a Muslim issue.

Qadianis are Muslims and there is nothing in Islam or the Quran that can change that. the Punjabi Muslims are a little different than the rest of them in Pakistan. Maybe we should declare all Punjabis Ghair Muslim. The Punjabi problem is not a Muslim problem and neither it is a Pakistani Problem. The constitution can be and will be changed.



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#382 Posted by SR on June 3, 2008 12:14:05 pm
To Muslims who DO NOT tolerate any jokes against religious icons -- of ANY FAITH, or so they claim.

The issue of blasphemy against the shaan of prophet Mohammad is a hot topic these days. In fact, the rear end of the entire ummah seems to be literally on fire ever since the knighthood of that clown Rushdie.

I just want to highlight the acts of those who demand respect for their holy man.

What double standards they have. They would happily redicule the other guy's holy man.

Please see:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UQXkJXkW1wk

Is there a single Muslim among more than a billion strong who has the integrity to condemn this openly?

Curious minds want to know...
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