The 'One God' Religions of Revelation

What is the porpose of this article ? Is it to prove that hinduism is not as old as it claims to be ?.... is it to date hinduism after Islam ?

European / Christian historians of last century had this mind – block… and never dated anything older than the their programmed abrahamic dates.

Two dates which sub-conciously rule these christians is 6000 years and / 2000 years. That’s their abrahamic conditionaing. Now these momammedens have one more date to work with that’s thr 7th century.

Murad is trying his best to see if he can show hinduisnm in its present form is younger to Islam .

Ladduji,

"Not elevating Mohammad to the status of Allah does not turn a faithful into a Hindu!!"

If they are called as Hindu, what is the harm? Islam is the worst among the Abrahmic religions, Communism included, who take away the native culture, language and ancestory of its new converts.

The rootless converts have the lowest self esteem. They sell their mothers to the highest bidder. Fight in Afghanistan and cashmere for little bit of cash. In US they documented what happened to American Inidan kids who were taken away from their reservations and put in the best boarding schools in far away est coast. Those kids becme drug addict antisocial. Islam is antisocial, anticulture and antihuman. It's ment for raising legion for plunder, loot and rape.

Eklavya,

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Is Islam itself, inherently, a bigoted religion, like brahminism?"

Did Brahminism ever exist? Attack on Brhmin is akin to March 25 1971 attack on Dhacca University professor quarters and student hostels. Thousands of unarmed professors and students perished. It's the tactics of oppressor to aim at your brain. What do you think bigoted Eklavya? Bigot is a person who does not change his opinion even after furnishing lot of evidences and convincing arguments.

Re: # 831; pappu

Kaal bhai would know exactly what I am saying.

Regards

Re: # 826

"That would be a Hindu, laddu bhai. One who totally leaves both the Quran and Muhammad behind..."

In my opinion it is possible to be a "muslim" just by surrendering one's ego to "Allah" ......... and not worrying about the Quranic tafsirs.....

Not elevating Mohammad to the status of Allah does not turn a faithful into a Hindu!!

Not at all.

In my opinion , one can blasphemize about Mohammad but not about Allah- the opposite view is espoused by the hadeeth created by the mullahs!!

In my view one can reject Mohammad but NOT Allah!!

Cheema,

"As far as hindu extremism is concerned, the problem may be the exact opposite of the above."

I.E.?

Do you mean if Hindu poor are converted to Abrahmic Islam/Communism/Christanity milk and honey will flow?

I do not think Muradbhai is that innocent or progressive.

If he is married to an Indian or Hindu ask this gentleman if he is willing to go thru the ceremony mentioned below for his wife's sake otherwise his his wife is just a handsomely paid prostitute. Is he willing to name his kids after Indian patriots, sages and saints, eg., Bhagat Singh, RajGuru, Shivaji, Valmiki, Patanjali, Ahilya, Rani LaxmiBai, Savitri etc.

April 11, 2007

A Hindu girl and a Muslim youth (or vice versa) elope and tension grips the entire town. If the girl is Hindu, the Bajrang Dal and other fringe organisations will create a storm and demand that the girl is brought back and the youth arrested for kidnapping her.

It is later found that the girl and boy were adult and had married as per law. The affidavit was submitted in the court. And the real bombshell comes when they find that: it was not the girl who converted but the boy who not only changed his name but also underwent 'Shuddhikaran' to become a Hindu.

Re: # 829

in fact, the former statement of mine below is true for the adherents of any one of the so-called abrahamic traditions.

Regards

Re: # 828; Eklavya

I have explained many a times before (and I think you agree), the problem is NOT the poor Muslims. So please don't harrass a good Muslim such as Murad sahib.

As far as hindu extremism is concerned, the problem may be the exact opposite of the above.

muradbhai, the issue is not Muslims, but Islam. Every Muslim will tell you that Islam has been hijacked by bad people (that is, everyone but himself or herself). You offer fairly standard Islamist argument (which may be right).

Is Islam itself, inherently, a bigoted religion, like brahminism? What do you think, muradbhai?

Re: # 777

If you had read my earlier chowk articles on the `hijacking of Islam' and `the vicious circle of violence' you will not be able to say that I have been any kinder to the bigoted Muslims who have done so much harm to mankind. I condemn all who make the masses do evil things in the name of religion.

(as the formless Brahman) without following Quran....

That would be a Hindu, laddu bhai. One who totally leaves both the Quran and Muhammad behind...would have a great deal of trouble establishing himself or herself as a Muslim. One may continue to call onself a Muslim for political and emotional purposes alone, then. But there would be no difference between such a 'Muslim' and a Hindu....Such a person would basically become a yogi or a bhakta, IMO.

"Yes, but when a Muslim submerges himself or herself in Allah, ..."

The jump from Allah to Quran is not obvious- One can "merge" in Allah (as the formless Brahman) without following Quran......

Uncle Tahir Nahin Manenge!

"Which state; Southern Hysteria? :)"

No, Sudden Hysteria! How about you? Where do you live? Jahannam? One Muslim friend had told me that America is worst than Jahannam. I agreed with him and asked when was he leaving. For Islamists India is the worst. do you know when are they leaving the subcontinent? Don't come to US, the best place for you is Saudi Arabia, the source of all the evil for last 1400 years.

Empty talks with dull idiotic minds, with no sincerity can result in nothing good, no matter how much time you invest.

When people do not even want to think properly over what they themselves are saying, do not even want to define properly what they themselves are saying (forget about convincing others) then arguments/rationality do not matter.


Thinking about Society without caring what society should be? When you can't even think of an objectiove what the hell will you do to achive it?

I haven't gone through all the posts since I left this issue, but some of you have talked about Islam being a social religion? As if you know, to at least a good extent, what Society should be? As if you have given enough thoughts to this?

Do you know when a thing/act is social or antisocial and what contexts make a thing social or antisocial? How will you determine if a religion that teaches about 4 wives, slave girls and may be some totally idiotic tribal laws to tribal people (those who even need to have a rule from God to know how to wash your hands) will be social or anti-social in which kind of society and in what contexts?

Islam is social religion for what kind of people? Who needs that kind of society and for what purpose?

First you need to decide "what are different possible objectives of society", "what is the best objective of society", once you feel you are sincere and honest enough to determine and agree to that, then try to pretend that you can think in terms of social and anti-social laws to some extent.

If you really want an answer to some comments that you post in response to this post, then send me a message, so that i do not end up skipping your post/comment (as I may not be visiting this topic too often).

some kind of conspiracy


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