Khalid Sohail June 16, 2008
#24 Posted by hurricane on June 18, 2008 1:21:44 pm
Dear Dr. Sohail,
hahaha....either you're fooling me, or I'm fooling you ;).
a friend of mine recently became extremely intelligent. It's as if he was a mental retard a few months ago, and suddenly this brain was implanted in him. Of course, all such things make me curious so I asked him about the change.
He told me "I am learning to let go of the brain, and listen to my intuition, the wise intuition that we all have".
Needless to say, and as Kaal and several others can testify, I stopped listening to my brain a while back, so I too am labeled a simpleton ;)
hahaha....either you're fooling me, or I'm fooling you ;).
a friend of mine recently became extremely intelligent. It's as if he was a mental retard a few months ago, and suddenly this brain was implanted in him. Of course, all such things make me curious so I asked him about the change.
He told me "I am learning to let go of the brain, and listen to my intuition, the wise intuition that we all have".
Needless to say, and as Kaal and several others can testify, I stopped listening to my brain a while back, so I too am labeled a simpleton ;)
#23 Posted by drsohail on June 18, 2008 12:30:44 pm
Re: # 22
dear hurricane...i am impressed by your wisdom and mysticism...sincerely sohail
dear hurricane...i am impressed by your wisdom and mysticism...sincerely sohail
#22 Posted by hurricane on June 18, 2008 11:53:07 am
Tahir yaar,
you can kiss whomever you choose ;)
What else do I love? A lot actually. And more as each day passes. Yes one does forget God often...it is true...but once the distractions are removed, one can see signs of God everywhere...
you can kiss whomever you choose ;)
What else do I love? A lot actually. And more as each day passes. Yes one does forget God often...it is true...but once the distractions are removed, one can see signs of God everywhere...
#21 Posted by tahir on June 18, 2008 11:32:53 am
Re: # 19
So, you want me to kiss the doctor or what?
Thanks for loving the 'best description yet'; what else do you love?
The doctor has remained at this 'starting line' for too long now! He must sprint forward into religion now that he's done psycho-analysing the entire frozen sub-continent!
Peace.
PS: some unfortunate ones do deny the Creator as soon as they're finished loving...
So, you want me to kiss the doctor or what?
Thanks for loving the 'best description yet'; what else do you love?
The doctor has remained at this 'starting line' for too long now! He must sprint forward into religion now that he's done psycho-analysing the entire frozen sub-continent!
Peace.
PS: some unfortunate ones do deny the Creator as soon as they're finished loving...
#20 Posted by drsohail on June 18, 2008 11:26:38 am
Re: # 18
dear khurram...you might be right. they might have finally parted. but the question is...were their philosophies fundamentally different (as both believed in helping people by resolving their unconscious conflicts)
or their personalities were fundamentaly in conflict.
many philosophers with different philosophies were friends as their personalities were not in conflict but you have an interesting hypothetical explanation. what do you consider their fundamental difference in philosophy?
sincerely sohail
dear khurram...you might be right. they might have finally parted. but the question is...were their philosophies fundamentally different (as both believed in helping people by resolving their unconscious conflicts)
or their personalities were fundamentaly in conflict.
many philosophers with different philosophies were friends as their personalities were not in conflict but you have an interesting hypothetical explanation. what do you consider their fundamental difference in philosophy?
sincerely sohail
#19 Posted by hurricane on June 18, 2008 10:55:48 am
"Now I must return to minding my 'savings' account..."
:) This has to be the best description yet
Loving any entity completely, transcends "doing as the entity does" and it transcends the behavior of the entity itself, but you begin to see the purpose of that entity and the creator that put that system in place. God can be apparent from a blade of grass itself.
All I'm saying is, that the atheistic humanism practiced by Dr. Sohail is a starting point, as loving humans is a good starting point...but if they truly love humans, they can not deny the creator.
:) This has to be the best description yet
Loving any entity completely, transcends "doing as the entity does" and it transcends the behavior of the entity itself, but you begin to see the purpose of that entity and the creator that put that system in place. God can be apparent from a blade of grass itself.
All I'm saying is, that the atheistic humanism practiced by Dr. Sohail is a starting point, as loving humans is a good starting point...but if they truly love humans, they can not deny the creator.
#18 Posted by khurram on June 18, 2008 10:52:12 am
drsohail,
I think you are placing too much emphasis on personal issues. Freud and Jung would have parted ways, no matter what, since their philosphies were so fundamentally different.
I think you are placing too much emphasis on personal issues. Freud and Jung would have parted ways, no matter what, since their philosphies were so fundamentally different.
#17 Posted by tahir on June 18, 2008 10:50:47 am
Re: # 16
Toofaan sahib,
"don't you see that loving God's creation without bias eventually leads you to realizing the magnificent creator?"
God's Grace (rahmah) does not descend on the rebellious, iniquitous, and the impious.
I can't ever remember loving Iblees, although he too is God's creation! Bias is in all of us since Allah asks us to differentiate between good and evil and make a clear choice in order to be held fully accountable one day.
Now I must return to minding my 'savings' account...
Peace.
Toofaan sahib,
"don't you see that loving God's creation without bias eventually leads you to realizing the magnificent creator?"
God's Grace (rahmah) does not descend on the rebellious, iniquitous, and the impious.
I can't ever remember loving Iblees, although he too is God's creation! Bias is in all of us since Allah asks us to differentiate between good and evil and make a clear choice in order to be held fully accountable one day.
Now I must return to minding my 'savings' account...
Peace.
#16 Posted by hurricane on June 18, 2008 10:11:00 am
Tahir sahib,
thanks for the wiki quote. And amigo, don't worry about quoting wiki, it has been proven to be as accurate or as inaccurate as encyclopedia brittanica.
re: Humanism, yes I know where they head. However, don't you see that loving God's creation without bias eventually leads you to realizing the magnificent creator? ;)
thanks for the wiki quote. And amigo, don't worry about quoting wiki, it has been proven to be as accurate or as inaccurate as encyclopedia brittanica.
re: Humanism, yes I know where they head. However, don't you see that loving God's creation without bias eventually leads you to realizing the magnificent creator? ;)
#15 Posted by tahir on June 18, 2008 10:10:03 am
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#14 Posted by tahir on June 18, 2008 10:00:57 am
Re: # 11 Harry Cane
"humanist. Which means that he loves humanity"
Humanism is something else my friend. Do read some more and don't be deceived. Although I dislike quoting Wicked-pedia:
"Humanism is a broad category of ethical philosophies..... based on the ability to determine right and wrong by appeal to universal human qualities — particularly rationality....Humanism entails a commitment to the search for truth and morality through human means in support of human interests...In focusing on the capacity for self-determination, humanism rejects the validity of transcendental justifications, such as a dependence on belief without reason, the supernatural, or texts of allegedly divine origin. Humanists endorse universal morality based on the commonality of the human condition...."
Do you see the Godlessness, man-made non-sense pitched against what God has bestowed upon us? Down with the Humanists!
Peace.
"humanist. Which means that he loves humanity"
Humanism is something else my friend. Do read some more and don't be deceived. Although I dislike quoting Wicked-pedia:
"Humanism is a broad category of ethical philosophies..... based on the ability to determine right and wrong by appeal to universal human qualities — particularly rationality....Humanism entails a commitment to the search for truth and morality through human means in support of human interests...In focusing on the capacity for self-determination, humanism rejects the validity of transcendental justifications, such as a dependence on belief without reason, the supernatural, or texts of allegedly divine origin. Humanists endorse universal morality based on the commonality of the human condition...."
Do you see the Godlessness, man-made non-sense pitched against what God has bestowed upon us? Down with the Humanists!
Peace.
#13 Posted by Dana-e-raaz on June 18, 2008 9:36:07 am
Re: # 9
Mr. PKSZ, do you intend to say that Dr. Sohail should say what you want him to say? If that is the case, it will never happen and you will be busy with your rant...well into the future.
Dr. Sohail writes in simple language, which sends a psuedo-signal that the content is also simplistic...but as you continue to read, you find that..."this is exactly what I wanted to know, but could not find in books"...He is doing a difficult job of teaching people like you, so that they could grow up and tolerate the thought pattern of others.
Mr. PKSZ, do you intend to say that Dr. Sohail should say what you want him to say? If that is the case, it will never happen and you will be busy with your rant...well into the future.
Dr. Sohail writes in simple language, which sends a psuedo-signal that the content is also simplistic...but as you continue to read, you find that..."this is exactly what I wanted to know, but could not find in books"...He is doing a difficult job of teaching people like you, so that they could grow up and tolerate the thought pattern of others.
#12 Posted by zeemax on June 18, 2008 8:40:40 am
#9 Pak Sar Zameen Shadbad:
Very interesting post :)
Very interesting post :)
#11 Posted by hurricane on June 18, 2008 8:30:02 am
PKSZ saab,
While your angst agsint psycho babble may indeed be well placed, your harshness against Dr. Sohail is uncalled for. I feel that he speaks from one of his heart valves and says things as simply as necessary. This is mistaken by others and they think he's a simpleton.
Now, Dr. Sohail is a humanist. Which means that he loves humanity. This is a fantastic thing. One of his heart valves is open (as opposed to most psycho babblists, and most of us on this site, whose hearts are shut). To have the heart fully open and expressive, Dr. Sohail should love humans without restraint, for through that act, he will find that we are all indeed one. Different manifestations from the same divine truth. His heart will shine then.
Hope this clarifies things PKSZ saab?
While your angst agsint psycho babble may indeed be well placed, your harshness against Dr. Sohail is uncalled for. I feel that he speaks from one of his heart valves and says things as simply as necessary. This is mistaken by others and they think he's a simpleton.
Now, Dr. Sohail is a humanist. Which means that he loves humanity. This is a fantastic thing. One of his heart valves is open (as opposed to most psycho babblists, and most of us on this site, whose hearts are shut). To have the heart fully open and expressive, Dr. Sohail should love humans without restraint, for through that act, he will find that we are all indeed one. Different manifestations from the same divine truth. His heart will shine then.
Hope this clarifies things PKSZ saab?
#10 Posted by Publius on June 18, 2008 8:15:04 am
Interesting and informative. Thank you, Khalid Sohail.
#9 Posted by PKSZ_shadbad on June 18, 2008 8:00:46 am
grow up drsohail, grow up!
Well said, Hamzad and Hurricane,
This guy drsohail is a case of arrested development - such a paindoo and pervert that it hard to believe that he has practice in Canada. But simplestons are everywhere. This guy has such fixation with sex and religion that he needs therapy himself big time. Can someon help him?
In the name of revealing the dark side he relishes in pissing around every platform as he has not found the proper place to discharge ... grow up doc!
Well said, Hamzad and Hurricane,
This guy drsohail is a case of arrested development - such a paindoo and pervert that it hard to believe that he has practice in Canada. But simplestons are everywhere. This guy has such fixation with sex and religion that he needs therapy himself big time. Can someon help him?
In the name of revealing the dark side he relishes in pissing around every platform as he has not found the proper place to discharge ... grow up doc!
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