Muslims in America

#238, Arjun, your understanding of student employment is limited, there is a third option within the confines of the law that you missed. I think you should check into it further, though regarding the white man's laws to monopolize all benefits for himself....who cares...

Re: # 238

Arjun, the 20 hour per week limit is only for off-campus employment. There are no limits on how many hours a F-1 visa holder can work on campus.

BJ2 (#237),

I am giggling as I read your post. What a twist of perception on my part (sorry; but I can’t help laughing as I write this …)

But I agree that … while meaning well, though in a stubborn, utopian way, YLH at times goes overboard unnecessarily criticizing others (Ahamdis in this case; also perhaps in alluding to Gandhi in his article, if I am not mistaken).

Now, it is fine to have disagreements … and there is a time, place, and way to go about them. But he tends to lose sight of the context, the need, and the circumstances … at times leaving well-meaning people baffled at the choice of battles he picks.

tahmed is somewhat of a different animal … a little full of himself and a tad bit too self-righteous. We both have gotten on each other’s bad side … and I try to remind him to not take himself so seriously. And life goes on …

"The reason behind todays turmoils is not the Muslim question, but rather colonist exploitation in the name of material progress and mad science."

Fight colonists in mecca and Madina not in the indian subcontinent, killing wrong people, ie Hindus.

Science is Sandeh! Science is Sankhya! One of the methods for self-realization. Nothing wrong with Science. It can keep one inquistive and child like.

The reason behind todays turmoils is not the Muslim question, but rather colonist exploitation in the name of material progress and mad science.

Re: # 250 Untruth

Thanks for six consecutive RED FLAGS! Some think it makes me bleed! Yes it does, but it never hurts. THIS is the difference between comfort-lovers and believers!

You have too many BASIC questions, do some reading which will make you grow up too. Don't touch that TV-remote!

The reason behind todays turmoils is not the Muslim question, but rather colonist exploitation in the name of material progress and mad science.

One day you will come to know THIS truth and you will change your name to Truth 101.

:)

"Try looking over at Malaysia if you're not too busy fixating on your calculus/culture thingy!"

Whatever is Malaysia, it is because of Chinese and Hindu minority. Have you been to Malaysia? Go and check Malay universities, hospitals and software parks. If India had followed Malaysia way then in India there would not be any religious freedom and India would be a sweatshop for Gaps, Nikes and Rebocks. Google on sodomy Malaysia Ibrahim. Do you see US underwear on its flag?

Tahir Uncle,

What is an idol? Is Koran an idol? Is Mohammed an idol? What is faith?

Real growth/emacipation/salvation/self realization starts when one starts questioning "Who am I?". For most of us it is easy to run away from this question and not put effort and run to a Guru, Book , Prophet, Temple and Masjid show fake humbleness and bend or kneel infront of strangers, alien words and books written in distant desert lands, and give ourselves to these things. We basically ask treat me as your slave since I cannot deal with myself and does not want to take the responsibility to answer the presing question "Who Am I?"

That is the genesis of slavery, religious bigotry and atrocities done in the name of all isms and religions.

Faith is equivalent to Vishwas in Indic languages. Vishwas means I have not studied and cannot take responsibility of studing and putting effort in knowing/understanding, so I will just sit and believe. Vishwas does not mean living the truth or knowledge. Such Vishwas is needed in worldly pursuits such as Commerce, trade, driving on the road or sports eg Chess, Basketball etc. We have Wishawas that the rook of opponent is going to move in straight line. Vishwas is not useful for answering the question "Who am I?".

What is useful is Sandeh. Which is to say: I dont know the answer but I will strive to get the answer in my living and not just intellectually by using my Intellect-Mind-Body complex.

Islam means peace but in the name of Islam there is only unpeace allover the world.

Buddha preached not to make Murty god, take the responsibility. But there are more murties of Budhha all over the world than any other deity. In your language Buddha means murty. Isn't it?

Re: # 243 Chorus Girl 100

"The world is saying in chorus, "It's the Islam, Stupid"

Chorus-lines change on Broadway; don't you know that?

Dread the time (but don't have a heart-attack) when they'll sing:

Stupid! Islam is right afterall!

And don't kick up your unshaven legs too high as you sing the old chorus line!

Re: # 242 Ungraceful 100

Thanks for being so gracious your imperial Rajaness! Any more, and Pakistan would evaporate in the Indian Ocean to turn it into Pakistani Ocean.

"is there a technological or scientific Muslim, Arab or central Asian power to which Indians can look upto."

Try looking over at Malaysia if you're not too busy fixating on your calculus/culture thingy!

And hey, high-achiver A-Leveller, look over here...pssstt..across Wahga Border once you're done reforming your caste system and solving poverty problems.

:)

Re: # 231 Dost

"There was no ahadith in the translation that I read (although I have also read Sahi Bukhari)"

Good boy Dost! What a literate youth you are!

"I never said that I did not understand the message but rather that the message, esp. the political Medina part, did not particularly appeal to me. I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings in saying"

What Medina political part? You see this was not a class strugggle for political power. To set things to the right, one needs power, and the debaucherous ones who weilded it in Mecca would not give up without a fight. Extreme persecution came first, and lots of hard work to change lazy folks into active and willing agents-of-change!This was followed by complete victory; a working model shown by many Prophets!

Islam is not piri-faqeeri-derweshi; it is a living system prescribed by God that requires struggle against dominant evils of one's own age. Please understand this: Islam is not rituals alone!

And what is the evil of our age; we can see it all around spreading itself thin globally....

Forget the Medina-bit for a moment: are you with the victims or the oppressors?

Re: # 229 Untruth
"Muslims/Islam. When one does not find divinity in himself he cannot find any thing outside also. Such a dead man reading number of times a book written in 7th century can easily be made into cannon fodder for imperialism of whom you called "the fools."

So if you've found yourself 'divinely' ignorant and vulgar, keep it to yourself; solve Indian problems and stay away from God's guidance at your own peril.

And how ancient are the books that you lick? I bet you worship the Greenback with ten hands and a tongue hanging out?

Re: # 217 Untruth
"Hold a mirror in front all the Muslim states from Turkey to Indonesia, do you see whom they are saying Jee Sarkar"

These are states NOT representitive of the ideals of their people. By labelling a country Islamic Republic gives Islam a bad name; can't you see that? Why blame God's Word?

But things change, they are changing right now unless you watch MTV or HBO all day. Things will change!

Hinduism has nothing to offer to the world; Islam has. Its the only system slowly and painfully getting up on its feet; thanks to your adopted country's effort. The Lord does work in mysterious ways through the unbelievers' own hands; they destroy themselves in their arrogance!

Don't lose sleep over this.

Mulla Mandar Multankar aka Masadi sahab,

"Hindu bigots who worshipping sex organs have lost their sense of temporal being."

What do you mean without bringinging in elites and whites?

Who is temporal being? Have you met him/her/it?

What is the sex organ? Sex mostly happens in mind.

Mandarji, has your family started calling you as Mandarji?

Mulla Mandar Multakar aka Masadi Sahab,

You have not responded to many of my posts.

Sorry to make you so angry! I would like to learn your pov.

"I usually don't like wasting time with dimwitted bigots of your calibre, but let me remind you that leaving aside the capitalists of today, you cannot understand today's world."

You are not the only one who call me dimwitted, many dear ones also do. So welcome to the crowd of dear ones!

Excess labor is capital. The west so far monopized inventions and technological innovation which creates the excess labor. Chinese and Indians are trying to beat them in their game. Todays world is like an arrow which was sent released in our collective past, passing the present and going into future. The present can reduce the speed or change its direction little by defection.

"The Europeans didn't do away with the indigeneous Indian population because unlike a settler area, India was colonized, they didn't want to move there in large numbers, just keep you backward and extract the most from you. Compared to colonization where India at the end of which India emerged as a stone-age, backward country compared to the developed nations of the world, Muslim rule left it as the jewel in the crown of the British empire,"

You probably are right, British sucked lot of material wealth from India and also tried to destroy Indian civilization, but Islam/Muslims were physical threat to Indian civilization.

" not to mention that their numbers, even though Muslims were settlers were greater than the number of Muslims, telling you quite plainly that no genocide like that practiced by white settlers too place and no conversion by the sword took place as well."

Looking at how Pakistan and most of the Muslim countries treat their minorities can we say that the forceful conversion did not happen. Islam for most of its followers is a political dogma.

"Now you can invent your own history to suit your BS bigotry and ask us to live in the past and forget the present- such is not what I spend time with or would like to spend time with."

The present is this, Bangalore is San Jose of India. Pune, Noida and Hyderabd are Seattle of india. This present would not happened had there not beeen Shivaji and Guru Govind Singhji. What is happening today in Afghanistan and Pakistan would be happening in these places.

"Muslims brough a lot of positive changes to this world for one they sparked the European rennaisance which lifted the dirt dwellers to what they then became, and instead of thanking them, they turned the Muslim enlightenment on its head presenting a distorted view of Islam for the purpose of identity management and to monopolize the beneftis of their ill gotten power."

Frankly I do not care so much about European history. I would thank Americans for their Haliday Resnicks and Russians for their cheap physics and math books. You should ask why they did, what they did to Muslims/Islam. When one does not find divinity in himself he cannot find any thing outside also. Such a dead man reading number of times a book written in 7th century can easily be made into cannon fodder for imperialism of whom you called "the fools."

"If you think Hinduism and Hindu culture is fluorishing by deculturation of the kind going on in India, you are sadly mistaken, Hindu nonsense might fill sound bytes of tv programs as you white masters partake in its "exotic" practices to counter what the capitalists are doing to them, doesn't mean that such is a fluorishing of Indian culture."

If it's making people happy and brings food on the plate, then it's fine for us. Hindu nonsense hopefully makes people believe in themselves their own creative abilities and not searh it in some books and gurus. They can be guide but they should not own their identity, which Islam does.

"You are a cultural illiterate and a social moron."

Masadi Sahab, would you please start celebrating the cullture. If you become Mullah Mandar Multankar then I will take your Socialogy 401 and Culture 501 class. let me know the prerequisite, such as saying the Kalima, which I woud gladly do it if you translate it in Hindi.

"It is not about Islam stupid, it's about power and manipulation where a population is Muslim, religion is a subordinate institution except among rejected groups, it's the political economy stupid, ignore it to enhance your own stupidity, as is done by intellectual sh**s like Ali Sina..."

The world is saying in chorus, "It's the Islam, Stupid!"

Mandarji aka Masadi Sahab,

"Brit empire, whereas after colonization it was reduced to the stone age with a handful (literally) of trained rulers who kept the same relationship going."

What a joke? Lot of Indians complain that India should have been in American camp from the day one then we would have had a permanent seat on security council and we could have become Japan with 1.2 Billion people for the betterment of the world.

Tell me if there is any democracy of Muslim lands, is there a technological or scientific Muslim, Arab or central Asian power to which Indians can look upto.

Mulla Mandar Multankar, please look in your own mirror carefully. Indians have been gracious and forgiving but don't bully your way...