Pervez Hoodbhoy July 1, 2008
#99 Posted by foggy1 on August 1, 2008 11:01:08 am
the psycho-social makeup of society is very much disturbed,especially in the rural areas.in the urban areas things are not going that well either.people are politically confused, they are disappointed and frustration seems to be closing upon the whole populace.all the more reason why the urbans would set their own house in order as far as education is concerned.
on the top we have HEC and its encouragement for research, at the bottom we have the school dropouts.valuing human resource ought to be done from the bottom level.the government’s chief role ought to be to see that schools form their own groups who concentrate on drop-out issues.if the reason is financial, or non-availability of transport, textbooks, uniforms, and so on,the government and the school groups should work together and help the affected school children.
then these school groups, especially in the public SECTOR schools should keep student’ s perfrormance always in the forefront of their agenda.they must see which students are WILLING to study,this is a most important criterion.next a range must be established, in which they should start out from an average student who has never failed, to good students and finally excellent students.these students should NEVER be lost sight of.they should be made to perform from good to better and sky is the limit.they should be helped out financially.scholarships must be easily available, but only for the excellent students-if more and more students are encouraged to get distinctions in their papers, they all should get scholarships.the National internship program is good, and students from pre-matric section must be included, trained and given stipend.later they could be selected as paid research workers for any of hec research activities or projects.boosters at Ba, Ma, BSc and M.phil levels must be provided, till these students reach PhD level safely.Medical education should be given a separate and special fillip.URDU medium good students ought to be given the opportunity to study comprehensive english, through a free course, and they should be given the opportunity equally to their english lingo counterparts.
needless to say the school groups should keep in view the schoolmasters, who have put in a long servis, are devoted, teach well, the students love them and love to attend their classes, the students understand their lectures and easily remember them.these teachers are broadminded, they encourage students to read other books as well,browse the internet for knowledge, and do not fly into a rage when the student tries to explain the lesson in his own words.such teachers must be honored, celeberated, rewarded and decorated at national level.they should be given paid leave and opportunity to complete their Ma or phd even.their retirement plans should be solid, and they should retire with a handsomepension.they must be given bonuses, health insurance and lots of endowments.during their servis they should be given lots of opportunities to join as a senior research worker in hec’ s any ongoing research projects.
good and stable education is needed to remove ‘’superstition’’ from religion.good educated persons are forces on the good side and are necessary for a nation’ s survival, in the face of gross rumor mongering and killing of innocents.
on the top we have HEC and its encouragement for research, at the bottom we have the school dropouts.valuing human resource ought to be done from the bottom level.the government’s chief role ought to be to see that schools form their own groups who concentrate on drop-out issues.if the reason is financial, or non-availability of transport, textbooks, uniforms, and so on,the government and the school groups should work together and help the affected school children.
then these school groups, especially in the public SECTOR schools should keep student’ s perfrormance always in the forefront of their agenda.they must see which students are WILLING to study,this is a most important criterion.next a range must be established, in which they should start out from an average student who has never failed, to good students and finally excellent students.these students should NEVER be lost sight of.they should be made to perform from good to better and sky is the limit.they should be helped out financially.scholarships must be easily available, but only for the excellent students-if more and more students are encouraged to get distinctions in their papers, they all should get scholarships.the National internship program is good, and students from pre-matric section must be included, trained and given stipend.later they could be selected as paid research workers for any of hec research activities or projects.boosters at Ba, Ma, BSc and M.phil levels must be provided, till these students reach PhD level safely.Medical education should be given a separate and special fillip.URDU medium good students ought to be given the opportunity to study comprehensive english, through a free course, and they should be given the opportunity equally to their english lingo counterparts.
needless to say the school groups should keep in view the schoolmasters, who have put in a long servis, are devoted, teach well, the students love them and love to attend their classes, the students understand their lectures and easily remember them.these teachers are broadminded, they encourage students to read other books as well,browse the internet for knowledge, and do not fly into a rage when the student tries to explain the lesson in his own words.such teachers must be honored, celeberated, rewarded and decorated at national level.they should be given paid leave and opportunity to complete their Ma or phd even.their retirement plans should be solid, and they should retire with a handsomepension.they must be given bonuses, health insurance and lots of endowments.during their servis they should be given lots of opportunities to join as a senior research worker in hec’ s any ongoing research projects.
good and stable education is needed to remove ‘’superstition’’ from religion.good educated persons are forces on the good side and are necessary for a nation’ s survival, in the face of gross rumor mongering and killing of innocents.
#98 Posted by tahir on July 6, 2008 11:08:59 pm
Re: # 97 Tooth 100
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#97 Posted by truth100 on July 6, 2008 10:25:35 pm
Re: # 95 tahir,
http://books.google.com/books?id=gVwBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=PA2 38&dq=ramushi+caste&source=web&ots=8XDpZIVz4q&sig=H5agfPzUr7y0Ls Us4zrebZ5d4y8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result
http://books.google.com/books?id=gVwBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=PA2 38&dq=ramushi+caste&source=web&ots=8XDpZIVz4q&sig=H5agfPzUr7y0Ls Us4zrebZ5d4y8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result
#96 Posted by _arjun9 on July 5, 2008 5:39:23 am
#86 Posted by Kamath on July 3, 2008 7:04:20 pm
hey pal...this ain't traffic problems in pakiland we're talking about..
People would "leave them alone" if they weren't going around the world blowing stuff up...
hey pal...this ain't traffic problems in pakiland we're talking about..
People would "leave them alone" if they weren't going around the world blowing stuff up...
#95 Posted by tahir on July 4, 2008 9:51:35 am
Re: # 91 truth
"You sound like that memsahab in the googlebook"
Which mem-sahib? And what does SHE say that resembles my comments here?
:)
"You sound like that memsahab in the googlebook"
Which mem-sahib? And what does SHE say that resembles my comments here?
:)
#94 Posted by tahir on July 4, 2008 9:50:03 am
Re: # 92 Kamath
It is good to see that you don't believe in 'malicious joy'!
Coca Cola, enjoy!
It is good to see that you don't believe in 'malicious joy'!
Coca Cola, enjoy!
#93 Posted by grandtrunkroad on July 4, 2008 8:50:14 am
the author says: "To the Americans, Pakistan is an instrument to be used for their strategic ends." His flawed argument, typical of recent Pakistani liberal scare tactics, is that the threat of impending Talibanization trumps all other threats including the threat of US manipulation or occupation. Forget that Talibanization of the whole country is MUCH more unlikely than Pakistan becoming another Afghanistan or Iraq if we give the US carte blanche to do whatever it wants as the author seems to be suggesting.
The reason why there was so much outrage over the death of the FC soldiers was because it was such an ominous signal of things to come -- see also in yesterday's Dawn, remarks by Admiral Mike Mullen: "“I’m comfortable, as the military leader, that I have all the authorities I need,” said Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, when asked if he had the authority to target key terrorist leaders hiding in Fata."
The reason why there was so much outrage over the death of the FC soldiers was because it was such an ominous signal of things to come -- see also in yesterday's Dawn, remarks by Admiral Mike Mullen: "“I’m comfortable, as the military leader, that I have all the authorities I need,” said Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, when asked if he had the authority to target key terrorist leaders hiding in Fata."
#92 Posted by Kamath on July 4, 2008 5:56:08 am
Re: # 90 Tahir old Boy:
Yes, I meant precisely,".... LEAVE THEM TO SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS (and not as in LEAVE THEM TO ROT..." I do not believe in Schadenfreude. All human being including Pakistanis -deserve a better, free, peaceful, and civillized life free of hunger, fear, etc. etc
Kamath.
Yes, I meant precisely,".... LEAVE THEM TO SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS (and not as in LEAVE THEM TO ROT..." I do not believe in Schadenfreude. All human being including Pakistanis -deserve a better, free, peaceful, and civillized life free of hunger, fear, etc. etc
Kamath.
#91 Posted by truth100 on July 4, 2008 1:01:58 am
Tahir, You sound like that memsahab in the googlebook.
#90 Posted by tahir on July 4, 2008 12:20:38 am
Re: # 86 Kammy
"LEAVE THEM ALONE."
I hope by this you mean LEAVE THEM TO SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS (and not as in LEAVE THEM TO ROT)?
Regards
"LEAVE THEM ALONE."
I hope by this you mean LEAVE THEM TO SOLVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS (and not as in LEAVE THEM TO ROT)?
Regards
#89 Posted by tahir on July 4, 2008 12:18:53 am
Re: # 88 Hundred
"Tahir after reading your few posts, it seems you are two centuries behind."
Please explain in what sense and behind which chosen race?
"Hope you take this comment in +ve spirit. "
Of course, I'm always positive!
Does truth have a number like you do, or are you the kind of Truth ("I am THE Truth) proclaimed by Mansur Hallaj?
I hope you love this comment.
Regards.
"Tahir after reading your few posts, it seems you are two centuries behind."
Please explain in what sense and behind which chosen race?
"Hope you take this comment in +ve spirit. "
Of course, I'm always positive!
Does truth have a number like you do, or are you the kind of Truth ("I am THE Truth) proclaimed by Mansur Hallaj?
I hope you love this comment.
Regards.
#88 Posted by truth100 on July 3, 2008 10:52:47 pm
Tahir after reading your few posts, it seems you are two centuries behind. Hope you take this comment in +ve spirit.
#87 Posted by truth100 on July 3, 2008 10:49:52 pm
It seems Pakistanis are still in religiosity of 1820s. Read this gogle book how one British memsahab talked and viewed at the natives.
http://books.google.com/books?id=gVwBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=PA2 38&dq=ramushi+caste&source=web&ots=8XDpZIVz4q&sig=H5agfPzUr7y0Ls Us4zrebZ5d4y8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result
Tahir looking at your fe posts it seems you two centuries behind. Hope you take this comment in +ve spirit.
http://books.google.com/books?id=gVwBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=PA2 38&dq=ramushi+caste&source=web&ots=8XDpZIVz4q&sig=H5agfPzUr7y0Ls Us4zrebZ5d4y8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result
Tahir looking at your fe posts it seems you two centuries behind. Hope you take this comment in +ve spirit.
#86 Posted by Kamath on July 3, 2008 7:04:20 pm
I think future and destiny of Pakistan should be left to Pakistanis themselves. After all they have come a long way after 60 years into a nation by their own efforts. They have handled their problems and now they can lick Talibani problem too. Pakistani nation will never be run by Talibs.
LEAVE THEM ALONE.
Kamath
LEAVE THEM ALONE.
Kamath
#85 Posted by tahir on July 3, 2008 1:02:36 pm
Re: # 71 Ippi
"a supossedly muslim sect"
Emphasis on supposedly?
"a supossedly muslim sect"
Emphasis on supposedly?
#84 Posted by tahir on July 3, 2008 12:13:38 pm
Re: # 66
As-salaam Alaikom to all, and seasons wet greetings too!
ChowQ will soon split writers/interacters into two categories:
1) Banned by ChowQ (punished for speaking the truth)
2) Banned-Chowq (rewarded for spreading lies)
Come now ZeeMax, explain to JayP, Laddu, Pappu, Guddu, Billu, Guppu, and Chappu what the second category stands for!
As-salaam Alaikom to all, and seasons wet greetings too!
ChowQ will soon split writers/interacters into two categories:
1) Banned by ChowQ (punished for speaking the truth)
2) Banned-Chowq (rewarded for spreading lies)
Come now ZeeMax, explain to JayP, Laddu, Pappu, Guddu, Billu, Guppu, and Chappu what the second category stands for!
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