Pervez Hoodbhoy July 1, 2008
#6 Posted by _arjun7 on July 1, 2008 8:11:42 pm
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#5 Posted by pinku on July 1, 2008 7:47:52 pm
Pervej Hoodbhoy said:
[The militants are using America as a smokescreen for their real agenda. Created by poverty, a war-culture, and the macabre manipulations of Pakistan’s intelligence services, the militants want more than just to fight an aggressor from across the oceans. Their goal is to establish their writ over that of the Pakistani state]
Is it so hard fo people to see the goals of Islamists? It is simple, they want to rule and they want to rule as per the laws that suits them. If USA can help them in gaining control over large number of people (for whatever reasons), then USA is bringing good luck to them. But even if USA doesn't bring any good luck to them, there aim remains the same and they will keep working on it.
Till you don't have anyone opposing Islamists ideologically, moderate muslims do not effectively exist.
So till you have a equally strong ideology confronting Islamist's imperialism, you should consider number of moderates to be zero (and who will create that opposing ideology:-)).
#4 Posted by KHYBER on July 1, 2008 7:09:51 pm
#1 Posted by dryiabbasi....I agree with you,bunch of ignorants wants to impose their ideas on majority,its not the fight for Islam but bunch of ignorants think that girls should not go schools,people should not listen to the music,if Pakistani Army is sincere fighting terrorism then Army should go arrest or shoot leadership of Talibans who are hiding in rat holes of Pakistani Tribal areas.It's almost like a bad joke. A bus driver, a ski lift operator and a gym rat have turned the Islamic world's only nuclear-armed nation upside down. Its amazing that corrupt and rejected and failed policians like NAWAZ SHARIF ,QAZI HUSSAIN AND IMRAN KHAN are talking against operation,but where are these guys when Talibans blow themselves in suicide attacks and kill innocent people,why don't these politicians say anything when Talibans bomb and destroy girls schools?To me Talibans are just bunch of ignorant barbarians who does not have any knowlegde of our great religion Islam,they are black spot on our religion and nation.Honestly,to me this operation is just a show off,we know that Talibans are product of CIA AND ISI during soviet invasion of AFGHANISTAN,BUT ISI used these millitants for its benefits too in INDIA AND KASHMIR,if Govt of Pakistan and MILITARY is sincere to to fight terrorism then they should attack and shoot their leaders,brain washed Talibans are unaware of their leaders motives,unfortunatle there are over 40 million people in Pakistan who does not have even basic education,and those over 40 million people either dance with the tone of ignorant mullahs or corrupt politicians.
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#3 Posted by Urstruly on July 1, 2008 6:51:35 pm
"The Taliban are waging an armed struggle to remake society. They will keep fighting this war even if America were to miraculously evaporate into space. "
You got that one right Dr. Sahib. This war that is only starting now should have been fought 60 years ago, right after the inception of pakistan. Had society cleansed itself from what I call the "East India Company ki naajaiz aulaad" at that time we wouldn't have to swallow that bitter pill now. The corrupt, pro-western, ruling elite missed the golden chance to avoid the guillotines when it had the time to re-instate the independent judiciary, hang musharaf in the courtyard of Lal Masjid, and have had a free and fair election under an independent judiciary. The legitimate government thus elected would have saved Pakistan from the impending clamity. That chance is lost for good. The guillotines await.
You got that one right Dr. Sahib. This war that is only starting now should have been fought 60 years ago, right after the inception of pakistan. Had society cleansed itself from what I call the "East India Company ki naajaiz aulaad" at that time we wouldn't have to swallow that bitter pill now. The corrupt, pro-western, ruling elite missed the golden chance to avoid the guillotines when it had the time to re-instate the independent judiciary, hang musharaf in the courtyard of Lal Masjid, and have had a free and fair election under an independent judiciary. The legitimate government thus elected would have saved Pakistan from the impending clamity. That chance is lost for good. The guillotines await.
#2 Posted by nycoolest on July 1, 2008 6:02:04 pm
true to its core pervaiz sahab. The monster is eating up Pakistani society under the viel of Islam. Anyone disagreeing with talibs r punishable to death. They have demolished the tribal society by killing 200 khans in fata who could posses a challenge to their occupation of tribal land. Barbarians donot know a thing but hate and bigotry. Its the time of to finish them off or be finished.
#1 Posted by dryiabbasi on July 1, 2008 5:31:32 pm
I couldn't agree with you more Dr Hoodbhoy. The politicians in Pakistan have to realise the gravity of the situation NOW or we shall perish forever behind long beards and burqas. It is essential that they drop all "useless" confrontation and move forward. But myopic, inept and selfish leaders like Nawaz Sharif do not have the wisdom and foresight to make such decisions...... What can I say, I can only despair. Yasir Abbasi.
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