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Diabetes: Wrestling with a Twenty-First Century Monster

Mutaal Mooquin July 2, 2008

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#50 Posted by quin on July 7, 2008 1:13:18 pm
WELL SAID NDocR. Salute! The pain which prompted me to write this article is substantiated in your most professional, comprehensive and non-judgmental response. It is good to see support coming from a medical professional for a layperson who has seen tunnel-vision approach of the main stream medicine and wish to speak about it.
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#49 Posted by NDocR on July 7, 2008 11:59:52 am
Re: # 47 (and #48)
Your statement: "The maids do not want to learn Yoga and Meditation. They only care for tablets."

According to our natural medicine approach, meditation and yoga do act as stress reducers. It goes something like this: Stress affects the adrenals, which affect our hormone balances. Therefore, there may be a stress-insulin link responding, at least to some part, to stress reduction.

However, to continue from our past message... no matter what, food intake plays a predominant role in either triggering or preventing blood sugar fluctuations.--In the type 1 diabetic aggravating the non-presence of insulin, in the type 2 diabetic exacerbating the excess levels of insulin or insulin resistance.

Both types benefit from avoidance of the blood sugar rollercoaster by sticking to a low-carb and potentially also gluten-free diet. Research already has linked type 1 with gluten-sensitivity/celiac disease. Please (re-)read posts #26 and #27!

Interestingly, today mainstream medicine refers to an uncanny number of "hybrid diabetes," meaning simultaneous type 1 and 2, especially in younger and lean individuals. Therefore, the sooner we become proactive the better the chances for controlling the growing "21st Century Monster, Diabetes!"

PS you asked... I am presently based in Canada.
author of the forthcoming At Risk? Avoid Diabetes by Recognizing Early Risk - A Natural Medicine View and the new DIABETES-Series Little Books
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#48 Posted by saleemhali on July 7, 2008 10:36:33 am
Thanks for the comment regarding blood sugar control for Type 1 patients -- indeed that is fine but the issue here was the onset of diabetes being triggered by diet, which was the main point of Mr. Mooquin's article . This is only true for Type 2.

The triggering mechanism for Type 1 is based on auto-immune reactions which are caused by defective T-cells that are determined by genetics and by some environmental factors that are still poorly researched.

It is good for all of us to eat less carbs on average and eat more veggies for sure.
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#47 Posted by truth100 on July 7, 2008 10:26:02 am
Re: # 46

"often the brain makes us crave what is the worst for us or what we are allergic to…"

Often?? When did it become often? Not from birth unless womb care taker (mother) was addictive and irresponsible!
The craving starts in mind-mind not in organ-(gut)-mind. In animal and plants mind-mind is almost non existent.

Postive change needs tremendous effort of intelect mind and body to get out of the vicious cycle. Acording to yoga the Manipur Chakra in guts gives the dermination to get out of this cycle. This might appear as not rational.

"The kind of cravings and patterns tell us natural medicine professionals a lot about the missing minerals and other triggers. By correcting them, cravings usually stop within as little as a couple of weeks. Avoiding diabetes is fairly easy early on. When an individual is already deep into it, improved control (and sometimes reversal) may still be possible but needs to be done under the supervision of a knowledgeable professional."

Interesting! The maids do not want to learn Yoga and Meditation. They only care for tablets.

Are you in US or India/Pakistan?
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#46 Posted by NDocR on July 7, 2008 8:44:07 am
Re: # 44 Hello tuth100.
Excellent question you are posing! The kind I am looking forward to answering in greater detail on our avoidiabetes forum on Ning.

You are not commenting on your maids' body weights and ages... It sounds like your maid who experiences fainting spells has a real problem that needs attention immediately!
Fainting may be a sign of hypoglycemia (when the blood sugar drops too low). Hypoglycemia can be fatal. Get her in for lab tests and to see a capable MD!
No surprise that she reaches for the cookie/sugar jar to drive up her sugar levels... The big problem is, this will put her on a blood sugar rollercoaster. And, following her sugar snack high, her blood sugar will drop even lower. It's a vicious cycle.

I am happy to assist you with some detailed recommendations but believe that this does belong into a private message. Changing food habits is possible at any stage. Our brain is smart (or dumb) in that it realizes that the gut does not get the nutrients the body needs. Then it puts us into cravings mode. However, often the brain makes us crave what is the worst for us or what we are allergic to… Go figure! Yet, change (good or bad) happens from the gut!
The kind of cravings and patterns tell us natural medicine professionals a lot about the missing minerals and other triggers. By correcting them, cravings usually stop within as little as a couple of weeks. Avoiding diabetes is fairly easy early on. When an individual is already deep into it, improved control (and sometimes reversal) may still be possible but needs to be done under the supervision of a knowledgeable professional.

Best wishes - and I look forward to your private message.

author of the forthcoming At Risk? Avoid Diabetes by Recognizing Early Risk - A Natural Medicine View and the new DIABETES-Series Little Books
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#45 Posted by quin on July 6, 2008 5:14:19 pm
Re: # 43
Your subtle humor is refreshing. Problem with poets like me is that they think everyone else too see things poetically, in particular, if someone talks with certain subtleness. Sorry for side tracking.
Back to the real topic of the article: As NDocR says, it begins with the gut. Everything begins with the gut for that matter. Even the feelings. This is my gut feeling. Cleansing mind is important – very important – but it goes hand in hand with cleansing of the body – mind purification is not the whole story. The whole story is BALANCE.
O, the typo of truth101 – can you excuse it as a typo :-)(pause for thought – why 100 – why not one or million or or trillion or infinite – 101 too can be reaching or may be teaching if not preaching - just rambling – no more in serious mode)
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#44 Posted by truth100 on July 6, 2008 9:27:20 am
NDocR,

I have two maids who are suffering from diabetes. One has to take insulin shots on daily basis. Other one is having symptoms such as fainting and thurst. She eats/steals gud/sugar all the time. She has to have it in her mouth.

We can physically stop their destructive habits which is necessary, but do you think the body/mind/vasana will still go on trying to create destructive chemicals on its own with whatever raw material it finds from so called healthy food?

Stopping the tap of diesel pouring in wind shield wiper fluid tank (wswft) is necessary, but we should make sure that there is not something in the wswft which converts water into diesel.
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#43 Posted by truth100 on July 6, 2008 9:14:28 am
BTW, who is 101? Might be a prof teaching others truth.

I hope I do not preach but reach.
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#42 Posted by truth100 on July 6, 2008 9:12:54 am
Quin,

Beautiful Poem! Though I have hard time in understanding the poems unless they are sung.

Just curious, is Noise because of our reaction?

For a while at least
I have come home to me
To a different symphony.

Symphony of nothingness?
Home of pure awareness?

I guess you responded to this statement:
Then we do not want to face this internal mess so leave the house and try to stay outside in addictions to ideologies, so called faiths, material goods and drugs.
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#41 Posted by NDocR on July 6, 2008 8:54:06 am
Re: # 35 Dear truth100.
I think I do understand where you are heading with your statement, "All diseases first start in the mind." However, as a medical professional and for the sake of the argument presented in the initial article about the growing impact of diabetes, I choose to stick to the "bodily" point-- and to the topic of diabetes/disease:

To grossly simplify the process, similarly as you put diesel into the tank of a gasoline-powered car, or brake oil into the windshield washer canister, the wrong food intake in our bodies causes oxidative stress and malfunction.
In human terms this means gastrointestinal inflammation (bloating, unpredictable events of the 2nd kind). An inflamed gut no longer can absorb the minerals and nutrients it gets from the food we eat.--Maybe that is a "smart" gut considering the garbage we tend to eat these days ;-)!--The result is not only fatigue and tiredness but also brain fog. Fewer (of the right) minerals and nutrients reaching our brain cells and nerve synapses means... yes, you said it, the mind is having a problem. But: the gut was first!
Therefore: All--make that "Most--diseases first start with the gut!"

Happy and healthy eating!



author of the forthcoming At Risk? Avoid Diabetes by Recognizing Early Risk - A Natural Medicine View and the new DIABETES-Series Little Books
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#40 Posted by NDocR on July 6, 2008 8:54:00 am
Re: # 35 Dear truth100.
I think I do understand where you are heading with your statement, "All diseases first start in the mind." However, as a medical professional and for the sake of the argument presented in the initial article about the growing impact of diabetes, I choose to stick to the "bodily" point-- and to the topic of diabetes/disease:

To grossly simplify the process, similarly as you put diesel into the tank of a gasoline-powered car, or brake oil into the windshield washer canister, the wrong food intake in our bodies causes oxidative stress and malfunction.
In human terms this means gastrointestinal inflammation (bloating, unpredictable events of the 2nd kind). An inflamed gut no longer can absorb the minerals and nutrients it gets from the food we eat.--Maybe that is a "smart" gut considering the garbage we tend to eat these days ;-)!--The result is not only fatigue and tiredness but also brain fog. Fewer (of the right) minerals and nutrients reaching our brain cells and nerve synapses means... yes, you said it, the mind is having a problem. But: the gut was first!
Therefore: All--make that "Most--diseases first start with the gut!"

Happy and healthy eating!



author of the forthcoming At Risk? Avoid Diabetes by Recognizing Early Risk - A Natural Medicine View and the new DIABETES-Series Little Books
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#39 Posted by quin on July 6, 2008 8:36:28 am
Re: # 36 akcheema,
I do thank you for the information and wish best all those who are suffering and will resort to every possible treatment avialable. Though to me, the developments you have referred sounds tentative and may prove to be a minefield in the long run. I am not a medical professional and my opinion is a layman's opinion, but the point is that more often emphasis is on treating the symptoms and not dealing with the underlying causes. Thrust of my argument is on early recognition and prevention. We need to bring mainstream medicine on board to make prevention a reality.
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#38 Posted by NDocR on July 6, 2008 8:33:07 am
Re: # 33 Urstuly - I just realized that the links and specific info for you were cut off in my response #34... I shall send them to you in a private message.
Best wishes - Love your questions and comments!
author of the forthcoming At Risk? Avoid Diabetes by Recognizing Early Risk - A Natural Medicine View and the new DIABETES-Series Little Books
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#37 Posted by quin on July 6, 2008 8:22:20 am
Re: # 35: dear truth101
I hear you and I hear the subtle satire in it. In my poems, I have tried to capture similar streaks of thoughts. My poems are my meditation of solitude. But irony is that like flowers, they want to be seen, to be appreciated. They really are not mine. They are others'. They come from others; and they go to them. If you so incline, pl see my poems in my iLogs:
Different Tune; Wink; and Hush.
One is copied here:
Different Tune
It is too much noise
Out in the field
Out in the city
Out in the streets
In my work place
In my living space
On my friend’s face
It is too much noise
In my heart beat
In my thoughts streak
In my taut physique
It is too much noise
When someone goes by
When a glance strikes
And a muse revives
It is too much noise

O the rain drop
Why not quietly fall
O the noisy ocean
Why such a commotion
O the kind sweet breeze
Rustle not these leaves
O the chirping bird singing with zest
Let the rose for a while be at rest
O the elements, pause your wheel
For a while at least
I have come home to me
To a different symphony.
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#36 Posted by akcheema on July 6, 2008 4:52:04 am
Re: # 32

recently there's been a great deal of interest in "obesity surgery"....especially gastric bypass and Sleeve gastrectomy almost curing Type 2 DM in overweight patients........a lot of ongoing research; early results are quite promising
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#35 Posted by truth100 on July 5, 2008 8:57:10 pm
Quinji,

"I should have also given you some idea about the early symptoms. "

All diseases first start in the mind. I am curious if you take a stock of your thoughts before the onset of this ailment. Were you addictive in thoughts? Internet and websites such as this are adictive. If you take a survey on this site you will find many who are on their to have this ailment.

Again it comes to the same place. Unless mind is purified we can not be sensitive to the early mental or bodily symtoms. Words clutter our mind, unnecessary thoughts pop up in our mind because these not well understood words. Then we do not want to face this internal mess so leave the house and try to stay outside in addictions to ideologies, so called faiths, material goods and drugs.
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