Muslim Ghettoisation

Tahir,

"The protection of His system is God's ultimate promise. Millions know His Word by heart, and send blessings on all the Prophets daily. What have YOU got to offer to the world with your caste-based fairy-tales? We will find out soon who wins and which system gains victory."

Protection of his system in Pakistan is not happening so seems s/he/it is not keeping his promise. Parroting of alien words without understanding is the root cause. You call it Merciful but you do not show mercy to Sambhaji, Gurus and their little children, Prithwirajs, Rupin katyal or POWs. Compare that to the treatment to 97K of yours for almost two years. The words you recite is like ultimate drug.

Look in the mirror at tell us if there is no castes in Pakistans. Do you know MukhtarMai and the reason for the gang rape? You are the most castiest and racist society. Arabs are the most racist? Ask how they pay to whites compared to brown with similar experience and qualification.

Some tmes I wonder, if only solution for your ailment is nuking only, but then we will be hurting innocent poor Abduls and Salmas. Better would if we some how rabid fanatics such as you need to be separated in a corner and put on a space ship never to come back.

#385 Contd...
"...boston brahmin is just and adjective"
The adjective is used to imply that "people were good in arts, literature, science, education and various cultural activities" like Brahmins.

Like islmaic pilgrimage to Mecca is biggest of all pilgrimages (and biggest stupidity). So, Mecca is used as adjective....

Re: # 352 O.J. Simpson

"Caste system in India is NO BUSINESS of Muslims, you bloody idiot."

No it IS our business just like you've made Pakistan and Islam your illegal trade!

"It does not apply to Muslims. And Hindus are not trying to convert Muslims."

You have nothing to offer to a Muslim; your sources are diluted and corrupted beyong recognition. Go reform those and see the inherent ruth behind them. Surely you will come to know then what the word ISLAM means!

"So keep your damn trap shut about what is none of your damn business."

No need to foam at the mouth! Control your attacker agents first Maj. Ajeya!

Re: # 351 Mad-in-India

"India being the IT hub.."

You mean 'IT' as in 'khusra' or 'heejrah'? Boy, what a dub-khaRabba HUB!

We have a very happening HE-hub here!

Re: # 377
Shah...

Your reference to Mogul is correct.
But that is out of misconception. Like Swastika is treated in Europe or Carly's "bhasan" on contribution from moslems. These are resultant of shallow level thought process.
Most of the British people, who came to India were "low life"s (Hari's term) in their native country. Couple of intellectuals, who explored India in depth (like William Jones), used to express altogether different opinion about India. You have to reach that level (from Carly to Einstein)....
Anyhow, same prescription like DM, Tahmed...
Will and Ariel Durant's "The Story of Civilisation"....

Re: # 347 Uncouth-101

"I challnged masadi to have name mulla mandar multankar, and i will recite kalima as many times as he wants in hindi. i have not heard from him."

People who have unrealistic expectations need not expect ANYTHING!

Get it, half-convert?

Re: # 333 Urchin 007
"“There was once a civilization. Emphasis on the past tense... "

NOW the emphasis is on how to make this awake giant fall back to sleep. THIS is the 'War Of Terror' that rages on.

Re: # 329 Dost
You're talking to a very sick little boy who misses what comes from his Mataland!

The 'londa' always had Coca Cola in a feeder!

Re: # 327 Uncouth-101

"islam has outlived and outspaced its utility. it should had been dismantled just after life of mohammed and should not have gone beyond mecca and madina."

You must be high smoking pot or living on ecstasy, 101!

The protection of His system is God's ultimate promise. Millions know His Word by heart, and send blessings on all the Prophets daily. What have YOU got to offer to the world with your caste-based fairy-tales? We will find out soon who wins and which system gains victory.

Wake up! The focus is on Islam, NOT Hinduism. Hatred against God's Word will get you nowhere.

Keep living on the moral fault-line.

Re: # 320 Harry Mao

"Mohammad told you....that your women need to obey their fathers, brothers and husbands; otherwise they can and should be killed."

No baby no! The Qur'an explicitly says that men are the protectors and providers of women! No other system gives women the rights Islam gives. Look at YOUR own caste system, correct YOUR wrongs before you spew out garbage against Islam. The cultural stupidities of a few men do not represent Islam. Haven't you figured out THIS as yet?

Consider this a very polite reply, Harry Mao.

No go live on the money your womenfolk earn....

Re: # 346
Tahmed...

Brahmins or Indians never claimed invention of paper making, ceramics, silk extraction etc...Chinks and Japs were experts in these areas. Indians learned a lot of stuff from Chinese people and vice versa...

Brahmins have contributed enough in their areas (they need not involve everywhere)....

No ranting panting...
In your leasure time, please read the volumes of "The Story of Civilisation" by Will and Ariel Durant....Some useful information....

DM...
Coming to Nazrul etc...
Post Tagore, Nazrul was one of the prominent poets ( Sukanta, Jibananda etc...). It does not make him 2nd to Tagore in terms of literary contribution or qualitative qork. Post partition initiative (1905), to encourage moslems in mainline Bengali culture, Nazrul is highlighted more than he deservs. His work is not part of any unversity curriculla. His poems are good upto school level.

You are missing the context...

What Indian have learned from the arrival of islamic invaders (they were not settlers)?
Post islamic invastion, qualitative degenration, specialy in North India (including some parts of Pakistan) in traditional Indian areas of expertise is quite evident, if you compare works of the Boudhayana and other mathematicians with later day people, Kalidasa,Vishnu Gupta and others in literature....

To simplify the matter...
USA is still the leader in high end computing (IBM and CREY specially). After some political event, if they fails to create similar product or fails to progress in this field, what will be your area of investigation for decline?

Like Tahmed, I will request you to read Will Durant or writings of Vivekananda...Your perspecitive will definitely change....

Shahji:

I make the same distinction between Brahmins and Brahminism that I make between Muslims and Islam. Brahminism is an ideology which considers Brahmins to be superior beings, whereas Brahmins are people, a large majority of whom are poor and oppressed like other Indians. But Brahmins, I think, are nurtured from childhood to inculcate habits of hard work, discipline and dedication and it helps them to achieve success in life; the same route is available to every other community.

Re: # 369
D.M. sb I didnt mean to generalise and apologise for that.There are kind gentle learned briliant handsome debonaire etc etc brahmin .
With respect to Boston Brahmin its just a adjective and nothing more.Hindus have habit of being nosy about who is upper than whom who is high and who is low .

isnt that why they are most hated by black(afroA) and black hate Indian.they find hindus arrogence .They detect that hindus think they are so 'white'as if they owned the plantation!

ppl here use Mogul for everything large gigantic huge .Holly wood mogul

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogul


Mogul may mean:

The word 'mogul’ derives from the powerful mughal emperors of India.
Mogul is a powerful business leader also known as a Business magnate
Horwich Mogul, a class of mixed traffic 2-6-0 steam locomotive built between 1926 and 1932
LMS Stanier Mogul, a class of 2-6-0 mixed traffic steam locomotive (built 1933-1934)
Mogul (or 2-6-0), type of locomotive built from the early 1860s to the 1920s
Mogul lamp (or six way lamp), a floor lamp which has a large center light bulb surrounded by three (or four) smaller bulbs
Mogul skiing, a type of freestyle skiing where skiers try to pass different bumps or moguls
Mongols, one or several ethnic groups
Mughal Empire, or any member of its ruling dynasty
Project Mogul, a top secret project by the US Army Air Forces involving high altitude balloons, whose primary purpose was long-distance detection of sound waves generated by Soviet atomic bomb tests and ballistic missiles

Re: # 375 Posted by pinku on July 8, 2008 6:04:01 pm

So pinku, it was the Arabs who came and grabbed Sindh (actually it was Mohd. Bin Qasim, who conquered Sind). No where in your response did you use the word Islam.

Now the type of violence these Arabs as you have alluded to practiced on Hindus, was also practiced elsewhere in the conquered territory.

How can a doctrine teach the Arab invaders to be such violent? Wouldn't followers of the Bible fall in the same category?

Have you ever asked a Jew, about how the Romans treated them? Well, nowadays there are no Romans, hence you are unable to ask these questions of them.

Besides, the forces of Islam was all over their territory for a long time (at least 700 years)

About the westerners and their violence, maybe the era and the world had changed?

bubba,

Hindu came from Sindhu, your Arab masters were not good at pronouncing "S". Your Arab Masters were good at stealing things from India, they were basically traders or looters and sometimes both at the same time. They exported the idea of number-zero, the decimal system, sugar, cotton and lot many things from India. Understanding things was not their main business.

The glorious past of these "hindu" guys was reported by those westerners, and even Arabs like Al Biruni, that guy Al Biruni said that muslims can not even understand what kind of ponds these hindus have made (I wonder how it can be that difficult:-))... Another was dara Sikhoh, He said these Brahmins/Hindus have this Upanishad, it is the original book that our Kuran talked about... You can see their frustration:-)

Those westerners came to loot the same thing that your Arab masters came for. Land, money and slaves. The Arabs used to kiil everybody who wasn't willing to be subservient to them, these westerners could be that bad and so had to leave. Otherwise most of us wouldn't be here talking all this.

These westerners were not tribal so killing was a bit difficult for them, and it became thier own ending/killing.

Re: # 310 Posted by masadi on July 7, 2008 11:38:27 pm

This was a great response, masadi sahib.