Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance

All the Quadiani problems are because of their intolerence and disrespect of the other people's religion. First of they shouldn't be calling themselves Muslims and their religion as Islam because Islam is that religion which prophet Mohammad bin Abdullah (pbuh) of Arabia taught to the people of his time. He is the last Prophet of God, according to his teachings. Therefore, Muslims have absolutely no problem a person calling himself a prophet as long as he does not call himself Muslim and his religion Islam. Because of this intolerant behavior of Quadianis towards Muslims, the later feel terrorized by a minority who constatntly targets their beleif system. Please live and let live. You people shouldn't be ashamed of calling yourselves Quadiani, and nothing but Quadianis.

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Till you shed Islam aka Arab Imperialism, you will not evolve to human from APE, who sucks innocent and poor's blood.

De-Islamization is same as De_Arabization and De-Westernization.

Islam was colonization by Arabs. Neo-colization means, Islamization of the countries like Bakistan aka BS and BD, with Arabized (Arabized Pakistani Elite ie APE) and anglophine elites (Anglophile Pakistani Elite ie also APE) of the enslaved society, which sends poor Abduls to fight wars in Afghanistan, firmly licking Anglo rear.

Even the so called naxals are like Islamists. Their arms are funded by the western church. The Purulia arms drop among countless others was carried out by UK spooks for the naxals and the thugs of the north-east India. ISI is british creation. Bakistan (BS) and BD are laundas of the angloes.

BD genocide did not get a showing on massive Anglo media because BS was illegitimate child of Angloes.

But Allaha is just and he will send youu the right karma effects. India should seal PakJabi border so that these vemins do not escape the hell-fire.

Why was I flagged I wonder? Nothing I said was unjustified or offensive .. Is it because even chowk.com has been hijacked by fundamentalists

Tahir,

Why do you think Islam is not Arab imperialism?

Imposition of language
School Subject check
Regional Language such as Punjabi & Sindhi declining check

Political Power in Arabic land
For mediation run to Arab land check
Prefered place for exile by politicoes check

Internalizing the lie of superiority of Arabs check


Neo-Colonization by Islamization by Angloes to keep masses away from Science and Technology and keping them backward looking. Neo Colonized Islamic country is like car which has only reverse gear. Even the GCCs are colonized by large chunk of ruling Sheikhs capital is in Angloes hands. They squiz on shekh's balls to do punga with Saddam so that Saddam has to attack Kuwait which leads to first gulf war. Saddam, supposedly a leftist Bathist is also neocolonized and keeps himself exiled in Egypt when in trouble which is similar to being in DC. Except Syria all of you Islmists at the core are Anglo agents.

Do you agree Tahir? Your islamist rage you can afford to unleash o poor Hindu Haris in pakistan and with RDX and IEDs in Indian Hindu temples and IIScs.

You are thoroughly colonized. Your founder retires in UK and is thoroughly banged in rear for 8 years by Angloes. Never goes to jail..in fact no one goes for Pakistan Revolution. All this dracula leader of your has to do is raise the slogann "Islam Khatren Main Hain! Por people get screwed royally. All your leaders are decided in London, Riyadh. DC and Dubai. Aren't you Islamists devillish APEs?

Re: # 260 Urchin
"especially pigs..."

Don't confuse cows with pigs!

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Pathetic GooN-Ru, non-stop cutter-paster, wordless mumbler, motionless octopus , soul-less GooN-Ru....

Re: # 253 GooN Ru

"Massive De-Islamization is the only solution."

But the solution is: massive dose of Islam to the world's sick animals.

Re: # 252 GooN Ru
"If I use umbrella to cover myself to reach to my car I need to close the umbrella when I am inside the car."

You're probably dancing naked under Rehanna's UMBRELLA! In that case, keep it opened....

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#250

masadi & co & the concerned public

Anyone who imagines that Pakistan can survive in any form without the military is utterly disconnected with reality to the extent of being delusional or malicious.

I think these people fall into 3 camps. They are those who:

1) Do not rightly understand what democracy actually is.
2) Are mere methodists and cargo-cultists, and imagine that just the simple addition of democracy will somehow solve their problems.
3) Are genuinely malicious and have a vested interest in promoting democracy to the perceived end of enhancing their personal power and wealth.

(These first two groups are victims are of advertising and the last group consists of out local politicians and the CIA and the likes of masadi (who I'm sure is paid by some party adverse to national interests).

Capitalist democracy is an intrinsically Western and European idea, and even most Western democracies did not extend franchise to the more disaffected and "ideologically challenged" elements of their citizenry until they were sure that they posed no challenge to the over-arching status-quo of the economy in question.

Prior to this the church and the aristocracy through sheer brute force built and held areas of land and populations as "nations" . The integrity of the nation is and remains integrally and implicitly sacrosanct and the democracy came later in phases as Western feudalism metamorphosed into capitalism.

Pakistan simply does not have this kind of capital. We are by no means a nation and there's no disputing that. Nor do we have the institutional integrity or indeed infra-structure (social or otherwise) to sustain a democracy.

Pakistan's aspirations to democracy are like a caveman longing to buy a fighter jet and America's promotion of democracy is like selling fighter jets to cavemen because they know that nothing will come of the purchase except their own profit.

There is no successful democracy is the World, which allows the public to decide as to any other issue other than the face of the dictator who shall rule them for the next term. This is true of every Western democracy which each have the institutional and social capital behind them to allow for this capricious little throw of the dice to decide the temporal direction of their nation....Democracy is only good for for this, not for nation building and not for the shaping of the very institutions that allow democracy to exist.

These have to come from higher ideals such as patriotism and pride in nationhood and the concerted efforts of the powerful to the common end .. all things which Pakistanis and indeed Muslims can never achieve.

The military may be incompetent bastards to a man.. but its all Pakistan has to show for itself in terms of institutional capital. Its actually all we have .. as the civilians are "mostly" just petty profiteers, illiterate peasants, traitors and mullahs. (emphasis on mostly for those who might get offended)

If the military loses power, Pakistan will cease to be. If Iran is to be invaded and India's economy is to be checked Pakistan must destabilise. As I have maintained before.. the US instigated these previous elections in a bid to destabilise.. since then this is the third time Obama brought up the issue of invasion.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2182955.e ce

De-Islamization is same as De_Arabization and De-Westernization.

Islam was colonization by Arabs. Neo colization means Islamization with Arabized and westernized elites of the society firmly licking western rear.

Even the so called naxals are like Islamists. Their arms are funded by the western church. The Purulia arms drop among countless others was carried out by UK spooks for the naxals and the thugs of the north-east India. ISI is british creation. Bakistan (BS) and BD are munnas of the angloes.

BD massacre did not get showing on massive media of the west is because BS was illegitimate child of the Aunt.

ComRandi,

"Take the Army out of our affairs not only will the above effects of their rule vanish, the "Islam khatray me hai" excuse they use and the buildup of India as uber enemy will vanish as well. "

Taking the Army out our affairs is saying the state is non-Islamic. In Islam which is political from its DNA, the state needs to be Islamic. The state remains Islamic if it is controlled by the Army. Even to become secular Islmic countries need to make the Army own the state, eg, Turkey and Egypt.

Massive De-Islamization is the only solution.

"Quran is misinterpreted by many. "

If Quran is perfect and word of God why it gets misinterpreted? Do people say the same about Geeta, Dhamma Shastras, Jain Tirthankar's saying and writing.

For misinterpretation happens because humans have evolved. If I use umbrella to cover myself to reach to my car I need to close the umbrella when I am inside the car.

Closing the Koran in these times and especially in the subcontinent is a duty for the good of humanity.