Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance

Whenever some thing goes wrong with Pakistan or Muslims in General, Why is it always termed as a conspiracy by Jews or Christians? No Jews/Christian conspiracy is needed to kill or cause disturbance at least in Pakistan. Pakistanis are well versed in the art of self destruction.



RE #370
Masadi, I can only term your post as a case of flawed perception.

And since majmudar is not available you would not be able to rationalize or understand, I can see you are frustrated because of “chowk staff� and whatever has happened with yr post/ilogs.

Re: # 392
Sattar Bhai ji
All sects like yours Aga Bohra Kadiani are on the same template .Centralize the authority to any one as long as he is strong and like pack of animals flock around him We all know the advantage of a Pack it helps to hunt better fight better shout better ,But is this pack good for other outside the Pack?

simple ton muslims are your target The north africans Bengalis,South Asians ,who are non arabic script literate and like brahmins you can con them with all sorts of arabic mumbo jumbo to ignorent there is NO choice And you claim adherent from among the already muslims who were muslims without you .

Yes all u sect tout in 3rd world Indi Pakistan B Desh that you are global .But its another conning.It gives the impression to locals who never leave there village that out there somewhere there 100 milion qadianis and Mirza or Burhanuddin or Aga sits on a throne palace london paris calgary .Very much like in old days anybody Vilayat return was Master .

Lets see from the perspective of you exiled qadianis Aga Bohras .You will always be on the run either from Idi Amin 9/11 .Future of desi outside his environment is not ideal desirable or first choice So we pity you that you have to live as refugees all ove the world Dont cry persecution when you were warned like child not to touch fire

Regarding parable with Mohommeds Hizrat .ROTFL what can i say then every immigrant who left there country is Mohommed ?

sattar bhai, I will make this the last post on this for now.

You are NOT building a global jamat. You are building your jamat among non-Muslims, among the ignorant, willing or unwilling. Knowledgeable Muslims simply won't accept you (no matter what some people here say).

So, by your own admission, you are destroying Muslims. They won't accept you, and by your logic, your Allah will punish and destroy them for not accepting you. Good going, sattar bhai.

What you are selling is NOT good for Muslims, it seems.

First truly anti-Muslim force on earth. We will see how it fares.

May be there is something more powerful than Islam - mirzaism, that punishes and destroys Muslims for not accepting it.

Best wishes.

Shah bhai,

I wouldn’t worry about Bangladesh or Indonesia. Pakistan also banned Ahmadis, and we all know how well it has done as a nation since then. Ahmadi-Muslims on the other hand have moved on establish a global jamaat with centers all over the world [I humbly thank Allah Almighty for our success – from the bottom of my heart …]

BTW, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and early Muslims too were banned by the Meccans. We now live in global times … so opposition now will come from quarters across the globe. No big deal …

The message of Quran remains the same and is just as applicable. Allah Almighty is the Living God and He Alone is our Protector and our Witness.

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kaal bhai, you're most welcome :)

Praying was only a joke; don’t take it too seriously (grin). However, the point about your paranoia with Ahmadis was meant in all seriousness. Perhaps you should take time off and reflect. No?

OK, sattar bhai, thanks. We can let your answer stand as best testimony to the wisdom of your divinely inspired mirzai Islam from your allah.

Regards.

(While I can't speak for shah ji, I will gladly join you for any prayer anywhere, before you get rid of your mirzaism or after that. It's silly talking about all this stuff when we pray to the Ultimate God, no? :))

C’mon kaal bhai …

So far you have shown little regard for facts or reason … and pushed what you kinda-sorta know (or perhaps, what you kinda-sorta wish was true). After taking cheap shots at Ahmadis, without reason or validation, all of a sudden you now have a “genuine inquiry�? Hmmm ...

Nothing personal kaal bhai … it’s just that your paranoia with Ahmadis is your mental roadblock. Once you get rid of it, we can visit the mosque. Perhaps Shah bhai will also join us … (grin)

Gosh, is answering a question so hard, sattar bhai? And you claim to be one of God's Prophet's people?!! LOL

Bhai jan, I would gladly pray anywhere if that would make you happy. It would be silly of God to be not there, just because you are there.

So, what, according to your prophet mirzai pai, is the deal - is he the last prophet of your allah now, or are more coming?

Hey, that's a genuine inquiry. You know, it's about the big man himself - the maker of the galaxies and blackholes and outerspace - is he going to send us any more prophets or was mirza pai it, from him?! :)

Re: # 386
A qadiani now trying to convert a Hindu .

Hindus if reject isam /muslim then Ahmedia kis khet ke moli hai?
You can only prey on simpleton muslims like bengali ,indonesian muslims who are rising to your coniving .

B adesh will soon be banning you guys as Indonesia!

Re: # 386
A qadiani now trying to convert a Hindu .

Hindus if reject isam /muslim then Ahmedia kis khet ke moli hai?
You can only prey on simpleton muslims like bengali ,indonesian muslims who are rising to your coniving .

B adesh will soon be banning you guys as Indonesia!

kaal bhai,

I don’t know about sufis … so I can’t say much. But I do think you are making an ass of yourself here. Just an honest thought …

Theological discussions have been going on for thousands of years … and they are not going to end with your query. So first, try to get over your petty obsession with Ahmadis ... and then we can discuss more. I am sure we may even become good friends one day and pray together in the mosque … ;)

"Don’t get too hung up on details."

Please don't go all sufi on us. I am sure your prophet mirza pai didn't have much use for sufis or sufism.

So, is mirza pai your last and final prophet of allah or can any new divine explanations (as opposed to direct human interpretations) of the Quran can be expected?

Just a theological question, my friend. You can continue to believe whatever you want. We can end this with this final nugget of wisdom from one of allah's prophet's people. :)

kaal bhai,

Don’t get too hung up on details – this is not the right time for you. First, try to get over your paranoia with Ahmadis and Mirza Sahib … it is not serving you well. If and when you have sufficiently recovered, we can discuss more. Sounds good?

Just a theological query.

So our Mirza pai is the LAST (as in *final*, *akhiri*, *no-more after this one* not "best" or whatever) prophet of this Islamic allah of yours?

Or should we expect more, each with newer and better *divine* explanations (as opposed to mere human interpretations, as with Muslims) soon?

kaal bhai, here’s a brief lesson in Islam:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself foretold appearance of a future prophet. So perhaps you should take up this issue with the ummah. No?

Regardless, you may believe what works for you. Just don’t get paranoid with Ahmadis - and all should be fine. Peaceful rejection is not a problem … but active opposition of Allah’s prophet and his people invites divine wrath.

Just look at the ummah for an example. More severely a jihadi opposes Ahmadis, closer he is to becoming a suicide bomber.

Trust me; it really is that simple …!

sattar bhai, it's NOT that simple. Propeht Muhammad was the last Prophet of Allah, according to Muslims.

Now, you say that unless Muslims give up that core belief and accept your Mirza pai ji as the next Prophet of Allah, and listen to Mirza pai ji's 'explanations' as divine guidance (over and above their own understanding) Muslims will be destroyed.

You may have the last word here because you won't with Muslims.

kaal bhai,

We are on the same page here. But self-destruction is a matter of choice … kinda like suicide bombing. I hope you’ll choose wisely (grin).

Respecting prophets … whether it is Mirza Sahib or Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) … is not that important as long as you don’t get paranoid with them … or with their followers. It is really that simple … ;)