Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance

Eklavya

a circumcision at your age would be quite painful. I would suggest you to hold on tight to the bhagwat gita, because in the end, all religions believe in one supreme god. So why ponder over the different versions, when ones foreskin is at stake?!?

Muslims don't need any information from me, sattar bhai. Those Muslims who have actually bothered to learn about Mirzais have that information already. And they have done well to keep Mirzais where all deceivers are to be kept.

But that does not mean you should not keep trying to destroy Islam and take over the Islamic world. Sanity is not necessary. :)

kaal bhai,

Feel free to share your information on Mirzaees; ummah has been searching for over a century now! You are new to the scene, so knock yourself out (grin).

Trust me, problems shall be overcome one by one. So far ummah has not done very well … unless you count Lal Masjids and suicide bombings as success. So don’t worry about Ahmadis; rather pay attention to the sinking feeling in your guts ... or to zeemax as he boards the city bus you are riding (ouch!).

Sattar bhai, believe me, I very much appreciate what Mirzais are doing for all non-Muslims because I am familiar with Mirzai history and with the life of Mirzai bhai sahib. :)

But sattar bhai sahib, again, I merley point to deceipt when I see it. Mirzai problem is not non-Muslims, but Islam and Islam alone, unless, as you feel sure you will, you can somehow overcome it.

May be you Mirzais can do it, but I wouldn't bet my money on it. First you will have to just survive in the Islam world, THEN dream of taking it over or destroying it. LOL

kaal bhai,

I am trying to make the next 1400 years easy on you as Ahmadis continue to revive true Islam. Trust me, you’ll grow to love us all over again. We already count Ram and Krishna as noble prophets of Allah Almighty. I hope you won't hold that against us.

The ummah continues to lose the battle of hearts and minds … and has thus become heavy-hnaded. Violence is the last resort of the incompetent - how pitiful.

... and this could happen to you too; so pay attention to the sinking feeling in your gut (grin).

# 33 Mohar11 wrote :

"Do saudis consider ahmedis as muslims?"

Ahmadis and Ahmadiyya Jamaat do not consider Saudis as Muslims , hence Saudis also do not consider Ahmadis as Muslims.

No Non Muslim is allowed to enter Holy Kaaba, but after paying bribes, Ahmadis make multiple passports with Muslim written in the religion section, hence enter Holy Kaaba.

It is also belief of Jamaat Ahmadiyya that one day Jamaat Ahmadiyya will take over holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

Keeping in view the financial power, bribery skills and settlement of Ahmadis in rich Western countries , it is quite possible that Ahmadies may try to take over Holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

Ordinary Ahmadies are also told by Ahmadiyya leadership that either Jamaat Ahmadiyya will take over Pakistan , or Pakistan will be destroyed.

Aah, there you go, sattar bhai, full of old conspiratorial winks and nods.

If you are confident you will replace Islam with Mirzaism, as an outsider, I can only wish good luck to you. And advise you to not speak too loudly in the Muslim world.

Just remember, Muslims are not the ignorant Hindus and Christians whom you have convinced. :)

kaal bhai, a side comment: The sinking feeling you are getting in your stomach is true; Ahmadi-Muslims are destined to succeed and are out of your league. You should consider waiting out the next 1400 years. Sorry if this upsets you, but we’ll be more gentle this time around (grin). And your future generations will grow to love us like you never thought possible (wink) …

kaal bhai,

It is easy to push a conspiracy theory by claiming “everyone knows that ...� and “if evidence suggests ...� [wide grin]. Ummah has been trying for over a century now … but with no success. Can you do better?

Don’t worry - we only aim to take Islam back to its original message, as preached by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Ummah today places undue emphasis on hatred and violence … and that is not good.

You may think of them as jahil and cheer them on to self-destruction … but I am hopeful they can learn to exist peacefully and even progress with time. Now, that would be wonderful … no??

sattar bhai, everyone knows that the British promoted Mirzaism as a counter to Islam's power in the subcontinent. And lots of Jews worked with the British, so the British-Jewish connection - if there is any evidence to suggest it - seems quite plausible. Both would want something you yourself mentioned - replace Islam with an alternative that 'evolved with time'.

Understandably, from your pov, Prophet Muhammad's religion, without your Mirza bhai's 'divine clarifications' was a jahil religion that needed 'evolution.'

kaal bhai (#291, 294),

When it comes to Ahmadis, conspiracy theories abound! Now you know how the ummah feels. There is this Jewish connection; then there is this British conspiracy; they are a ring of sex addicts, an international drug cartel, and more. A CIA-connection? Any day now. How do you think Salam got the nobel? This is indeed proof enough. No?

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Such fanciful paranoia will keep you struggling under centuries-old baggage … not unlike the ummah. A new perspective in Islam is needed to renew its original message … and we are here to help (grin).

Ideas evolve, or deteriorate, based on one’s perspective. This should be handled with maturity and due-diligence - but not with brute force, be it physical or intellectual. You decide ...

masadi,

what about the 'rage' part? The 'impotent rage' seems like your oRhnaa bichona, no?

Is this the same trick as saying 'gnight' and 'this is my last post' but not really? Are these just words.. and why do you say them in the first place? Do you realize how flimsy you sound?

They certainly are "impotent" if they think that by censoring my voice they can suppress the truth....think before you post...

'#349 Posted by masadi on July 21, 2008 9:49:24 am
g'night, and may the censorers and others that are mortally afraid of the truth perish in their inadequacies and their impotent rage.......'

masadi,

This may seem naughty to point out... but 'impotent' people are censoring your articles and whatnot (conclusionL they are not impotent). Are you losing your mind.. and just projecting your mental state on them?

g'night, and may the censorers and others that are mortally afraid of the truth perish in their inadequacies and their impotent rage.......

Lying is the hallmark of the peons of the West, the entire system of their masters is based on lies and fluff. Many times have I exposed the uber Peon of the WEst, tahmed's lies and now he claims he doesn't lie, which by itself is a lie....