unflinching idealism ... since 1997 archivessitemapabouthelpfeedback
where paths intersect
  • Home
  • InFocus
  • Themes
  • Columns
  • Articles
  • Fiction
  • iLogs
  • Gallery
  • Unplugged
  • Writers
  • Interactors
  • Tags
Sign in | Join Chowk
web chowk
  • Article
  • Interact
  • read writer comments
  • add to favorites
  • get rss feeds
  • print
  • email this link

Ahmedabad Blasts: Numbed Apathy and The Conspiracy Of Our Resilience

Lalit Vanshaj July 27, 2008

Latest comments   flat   threaded   latest   oldest   all
listing 128-144   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

#148 Posted by masadi on July 28, 2008 10:55:06 pm
hamid writes "there is an alternative school of thought that blames all this, plus global warming, aids and head lice on the american elite ......... "

Don't know about aids and head lice, Hamid got those because of his gay and unhygenic lifestyle, but given that the US elite have set the world on the Global WOT agenda which has resulted in outbreaks of violence all over the globe to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy of US labelling, the group that that blames the american elite has the most facts to back up their assertions.

Now there is a third group that blames everything from terrorism to lack of deodrant use to corruption of politicians to underdevelopment among Hindus, to worker/owner relationships of production in the USA, to the extinction of sharks off the China coast, and the appearance of a new species of the moth in Timbuktu to a book from centuries back that neither they nor those they blame have read with any seriousness.... This group is the one that wants to occupy the North Pole because Al-Qaeda has established safe havens in that region.....
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#147 Posted by masadi on July 28, 2008 10:41:29 pm
Ajeya "bleak picture...."

Is suicide an option? The world would be better off without bigots like you...
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#146 Posted by masadi on July 28, 2008 10:39:56 pm
ayeja writes "That's a bleak picture to contemplate for my children, and maybe even me."

Bleak indeed especially since the person drawing the picture has absolutely no sense of reality of knowledge of what is going on from the playbook of the American elite to construct a bogeyman, using which they steal the world blind. It has absolutely nothing to do with rampaging Muslim hoardes, pedophile worship, battle for the Muslim soul or what not. Absolutely nothing!

Pinku writes "
what will you tell to people?
Is Kuran a word of God or not?? "

I do not think people are as obsessed with the Quran as you are, neither do they look at it to explain the farcial US WOT unless they happen to be clueless bigots like Hamid and you. If someone asks me about the Quran, I tell them what I think it is and that it is none of my business to tell them what they should think about it, that is for them to discover..


PS: To me, it is what it claims to be, the very word of God, and my conclusion is not based on someone telling me what it is. Now go climb a pole
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#145 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 28, 2008 9:41:15 pm
MQM supreme Leader Quaid E Awam Altaf hussain expressed great shock and offered prayers for victoms and and great sympathy for people of india, comdemned terror people.He was meeting at MQM international headquartes in London and silence was observed.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#144 Posted by tahmed32 on July 28, 2008 8:28:43 pm
hamidm: why are you joking with giani's agony? (or is it ecstasy at another chance to howl at religious minorities in India?)
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#143 Posted by hamidm2 on July 28, 2008 6:31:46 pm

........ i hate germans !
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#142 Posted by hamidm2 on July 28, 2008 6:31:19 pm
Re: # 141

giani mian,

.... this is not a muslim issue - it is a german issue ..... as tahmed has pointed out many times ,all this mayhem is because of the darn germans - these are the bloody people who were responsible for ww-1, ww-ii, the holocaust, bratwurst and the abbomination of sauerkraut ...... there is an alternative school of thought that blames all this, plus global warming, aids and head lice on the american elite ......... take your pick - americans or germans .... the mohammadens had nothing to do with it ...
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#141 Posted by giani_240 on July 28, 2008 4:02:23 pm
Dear lalit bhai - heartfelt condolences.
To the rest of the folks, IMHO, this is not a Hindu- Muslim issue. It is entirely a Muslim issue - for control of the Muslim soul. Unfortunately, the fundamentalists are winning because the moderate ones are too meek to rise up and fight for their own souls. A few more "victories" by the fundamentalists could result in a very violent backlash that could consume even the moderate muslims.

Any comments from the moderate muslims?
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#140 Posted by ajeya on July 28, 2008 1:38:19 pm
Nothing ever changes. Another series of bomb blasts by the "Shantists" (I am borrowing the term from another interactor - I thought it is very appropriate). More people dead, dying, dismembered, disembowelled. More families torn apart. Gut-wrenching grief. Fathers losing their sons, sons losing their mothers. More Islamic apologists like Tahmed blaming it on common human nature - to be dealt with as a simple law and order issue. More excuses like finding separate "root causes" for murder and violence against the "other" in every country under the sun. More attempts to blame the victim - in this case Hindus. More liberals and commies (like Parthaab) finding this an excellent opportunity to hawk their wares, and assist the Islamic cause in the process. I just came back from a trip where at every airport I, and every other passenger had to go through hours of painful waiting, and security checks - pat-downs and taking off of shoes and belts. And all this because the Shantists have "root causes"! (Islamic apologists still haven't explained why this "root cause" syndrome is peculiar to only ONE religion).

Is there an end in sight? I suggest that things will get worse before they get better. We should maybe put liberals and commies to work as landmine detectors and for de-fusing Shantist IEDs. I think Parthaab will make an excellent bomb-defuser. The day has to come when the word "Islamist" or "Muslim" will be reviled everywhere under the sun just like the word "Nazi" or "Skinhead" or "Stalinist" or "Fascist". If that day doesn't come, then Tahmed's hordes will take over the world. The liberals and commies, being cowardly in nature, will quietly convert and assimilate withing the pedophile-worshippers' ranks. That's a bleak picture to contemplate for my children, and maybe even me.

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#139 Posted by mohar1l on July 28, 2008 11:35:58 am
=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#138 Posted by laddu on July 28, 2008 11:07:23 am
=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#137 Posted by laddu on July 28, 2008 11:06:57 am
=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#136 Posted by pinku on July 28, 2008 11:01:06 am
#127 Posted by masadi,
what will you tell to people?
Is Kuran a word of God or not??
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#135 Posted by pinku on July 28, 2008 10:49:05 am
#125 Posted by tahmed32

right, we have to do whatever we can.
problem with commonsense part of your suggestion is that they already have all that commonsense but they simply can't use it to overrule their psychology of fear.

Depending upon their fear of speaking God, or those texts your effort to get them to use their common sense may well be almost infinite.

When you are closer to truth (eg when you say no book is word of God), then acceptance will get increased momentum later on and soon people in conflict with the idea will find it hard to propagate that idea.

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#134 Posted by tahir on July 28, 2008 10:47:43 am
Re: # 65 Urgent-13
"what matters is the way the way muslims interpret the koran"

I don't! Can you make peace with ME now and spit out that poisonous 'paan' you've been chewing?

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#133 Posted by dost_mittar on July 28, 2008 10:41:41 am
tahmed32:

Yes, Mahabharat is very popular. It is personally my favourite as it is a great classic: The complexity of characters, twists and turns of events, fantasies involving humans and gods and the avoidance of simple good/evil and complex morality is amazing and makes me proud of our ancestors to have ceated such an epic.

Why it is not kept at homes? Well, we are a superstitious people and think that keeping it at home would lead to domestic disharmony, as happened to the extended family in Mahabharat.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
listing 128-144   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

Interact Index

    #276 akcheema
    #275 akcheema
    #274 Regards
    #273 masanamuthu
    #272 tahir
    #271 tahir
    #270 akcheema
    #269 masadi
    #268 akcheema
    #267 akcheema
    #266 akcheema
    #265 akcheema
    #264 satya100
    #263 tahir
    #262 satya100
    #261 tahir
    #260 tahir
    #259 masadi
    #258 masadi
    #257 akcheema
    #256 akcheema
    #255 akcheema
    #254 akcheema
    #253 Regards
    #252 peonofthewest
    #251 tahmed32
    #250 tahmed32
    #249 Folio
    #248 peonofthewest
    #247 peonofthewest
    #246 Folio
    #245 peonofthewest
    #244 Folio
    #243 masadi
    #242 akcheema
    #241 tahmed32
    #240 Folio
    #239 akcheema
    #238 tahmed32
    #237 akcheema
    #236 satya100
    #235 parthaab
    #234 satya100
    #233 parthaab
    #232 masadi
    #231 masadi
    #230 satya100
    #229 masadi
    #228 satya100
    #227 parthaab
    #226 satya100
    #225 satya100
    #224 akcheema
    #223 satya100
    #222 ajeya
    #221 ajeya
    #220 satya100
    #219 masadi
    #218 ajeya
    #217 lalitvanshaj
    #216 masadi
    #215 satya100
    #214 masadi
    #213 ajeya
    #212 masadi
    #211 ajeya
    #210 satya100
    #209 tahir
    #208 satya100
    #207 satya100
    #206 tahir
    #205 masadi
    #204 masadi
    #203 guru
    #202 guru
    #201 guru
    #200 guru
    #199 guru
    #198 guru
    #197 lalitvanshaj
    #196 dost_mittar
    #195 akcheema
    #194 tahmed32
    #193 tahmed32
    #192 akcheema
    #191 tahir
    #190 tahir
    #189 guru
    #188 guru
    #187 guru
    #186 bulleya
    #185 BKisan
    #184 guru
    #183 lalitvanshaj
    #182 guru
    #181 tahir
    #180 guru
    #179 guru
    #178 dost_mittar
    #177 masadi
    #176 BKisan
    #175 nkg
    #174 delhiwala
    #173 delhiwala
    #172 lalitvanshaj
    #171 lalitvanshaj
    #170 lalitvanshaj
    #169 masadi
    #168 masadi
    #167 masadi
    #166 Maharana
    #165 giani_240
    #164 muqaddam
    #163 masadi
    #162 masadi
    #161 masadi
    #160 masadi
    #159 tahmed32
    #158 tahmed32
    #157 nb
    #156 parthaab
    #155 zeemax
    #154 zeemax
    #153 masadi
    #152 tahir
    #151 tahir
    #150 masadi
    #149 masadi
    #148 masadi
    #147 masadi
    #146 masadi
    #145 ahmedmadani
    #144 tahmed32
    #143 hamidm2
    #142 hamidm2
    #141 giani_240
    #140 ajeya
    #139 mohar1l
    #138 laddu
    #137 laddu
    #136 pinku
    #135 pinku
    #134 tahir
    #133 dost_mittar
    #132 masadi
    #131 masadi
    #130 masadi
    #129 masadi
    #128 masadi
    #127 masadi
    #126 masadi
    #125 tahmed32
    #124 tahmed32
    #123 dost_mittar
    #122 pinku
    #121 pinku
    #120 tahmed32
    #119 tahmed32
    #118 zeemax
    #117 zeemax
    #116 tahmed32
    #115 tahmed32
    #114 zeemax
    #113 pinku
    #112 tahmed32
    #111 tahmed32
    #110 masadi
    #109 zeemax
    #108 tahmed32
    #107 masadi
    #106 zeemax
    #105 tahmed32
    #104 zeemax
    #103 tahmed32
    #102 pmishra2
    #101 parthaab
    #100 dost_mittar
    #99 satya100
    #98 dost_mittar
    #97 satya100
    #96 satya100
    #95 adamkhan
    #94 anil
    #93 anil
    #92 tahmed32
    #91 masadi
    #90 masadi
    #89 Humsab
    #88 Humsab
    #87 tahmed32
    #86 tahmed32
    #85 masadi
    #84 satya100
    #83 vengatramanan
    #82 _arjun13
    #81 satya100
    #80 Humsab
    #79 Humsab
    #78 harish_hyd
    #77 tahmed32
    #76 satya100
    #75 Humsab
    #74 tahmed32
    #73 tahmed32
    #72 Ananth07
    #71 _arjun13
    #70 hamidm2
    #69 Cobra
    #68 nkg
    #67 nkg
    #66 _arjun13
    #65 _arjun13
    #64 satya100
    #63 satya100
    #62 nkg
    #61 tahmed32
    #60 satya100
    #59 satya100
    #58 tahmed32
    #57 tahmed32
    #56 satya100
    #55 satya100
    #54 satya100
    #53 aaendra
    #52 satya100
    #51 nkg
    #50 VRV
    #49 tahir
    #48 tahir
    #47 tahir
    #46 lalitvanshaj
    #45 satya100
    #44 viqarm
    #43 nkg
    #42 guru
    #41 nkg
    #40 nkg
    #39 nkg
    #38 guru
    #37 guru
    #36 nkg
    #35 guru
    #34 guru
    #33 mohar11
    #32 aaendra
    #31 aaendra
    #30 ahmedmadani
    #29 guru
    #28 aaendra
    #27 aaendra
    #26 mohar11
    #25 guru
    #24 mohar11
    #23 mohar11
    #22 Eklavya
    #21 Eklavya
    #20 guru
    #19 _arjun13
    #18 guru
    #17 tahmed32
    #16 tahmed32
    #15 BJ2
    #14 _arjun13
    #13 _arjun13
    #12 tahmed32
    #11 guru
    #10 _arjun13
    #9 tahmed32
    #8 bubba
    #7 dost_mittar
    #6 HP
    #5 masanamuthu
    #4 SRK
    #3 hamidm2
    #2 ahmedmadani
    #1 Naqshbandi

Latest Interacts

  • _arjun38: HP is commenting on... The Correct Turn
  • laddu: Hamidm, You would deserve the... The Correct Turn
  • jang: we have an obama... The Indian Obama!
  • MatloobZaman: http://www.chowk.com/unplugged/t/60360... The Indian Obama!
  • laddu: Re: # 111 Vaibhav, You did... The Muslim Protagonist and
  • PKSZ_shadbad: Of course Saudis want... Hop Aboard the Interfaith
  • laddu: I would have struck... The Indian Obama!
  • HP: India’s program is all... The Correct Turn

THEMES

  • Pakistan's Struggle for Democracy
  • The Indian Story
  • Indo-Pak Relations
  • Personal Narratives
  • Religion Today
  • War on Terror
  • Role of Media
  • Call for Social Change
  • Hold Them Accountable
  • Environment and Us
  • Way of Life
more »

Top 5 Articles This Week

  • Popular
  • G-8: RIP?
  • The Correct Turn
  • Urdu News Columnists and Anchors -- should we always believe them?
  • Politics of PPP and Asif Zardari
  • The Indian Obama!
  • Featured
  • There are a Lot of Monkeys
  • White Charade
  • Words of a Woman
  • FOX News and the Smelly Shoes
  • Dilemmas of Creative Children
  • 10 Years Ago
  • On Being an Ex-Expatriate
  • The Bitter Taste of Milk: A Novel
  • Silent together
  • Electrical Engineering: A Diminishing Role?
  • Love is there

Write on Chowk Interact Guidelines Privacy policy Terms Contact

Copyright © 1997 - 2008 chowk.com. All Rights Reserved
Reproduction of material on any www.chowk.com pages without prior written permissions is strictly prohibited