Lalit Vanshaj July 27, 2008
#148 Posted by masadi on July 28, 2008 10:55:06 pm
hamid writes "there is an alternative school of thought that blames all this, plus global warming, aids and head lice on the american elite ......... "
Don't know about aids and head lice, Hamid got those because of his gay and unhygenic lifestyle, but given that the US elite have set the world on the Global WOT agenda which has resulted in outbreaks of violence all over the globe to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy of US labelling, the group that that blames the american elite has the most facts to back up their assertions.
Now there is a third group that blames everything from terrorism to lack of deodrant use to corruption of politicians to underdevelopment among Hindus, to worker/owner relationships of production in the USA, to the extinction of sharks off the China coast, and the appearance of a new species of the moth in Timbuktu to a book from centuries back that neither they nor those they blame have read with any seriousness.... This group is the one that wants to occupy the North Pole because Al-Qaeda has established safe havens in that region.....
Don't know about aids and head lice, Hamid got those because of his gay and unhygenic lifestyle, but given that the US elite have set the world on the Global WOT agenda which has resulted in outbreaks of violence all over the globe to fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy of US labelling, the group that that blames the american elite has the most facts to back up their assertions.
Now there is a third group that blames everything from terrorism to lack of deodrant use to corruption of politicians to underdevelopment among Hindus, to worker/owner relationships of production in the USA, to the extinction of sharks off the China coast, and the appearance of a new species of the moth in Timbuktu to a book from centuries back that neither they nor those they blame have read with any seriousness.... This group is the one that wants to occupy the North Pole because Al-Qaeda has established safe havens in that region.....
#147 Posted by masadi on July 28, 2008 10:41:29 pm
Ajeya "bleak picture...."
Is suicide an option? The world would be better off without bigots like you...
Is suicide an option? The world would be better off without bigots like you...
#146 Posted by masadi on July 28, 2008 10:39:56 pm
ayeja writes "That's a bleak picture to contemplate for my children, and maybe even me."
Bleak indeed especially since the person drawing the picture has absolutely no sense of reality of knowledge of what is going on from the playbook of the American elite to construct a bogeyman, using which they steal the world blind. It has absolutely nothing to do with rampaging Muslim hoardes, pedophile worship, battle for the Muslim soul or what not. Absolutely nothing!
Pinku writes "
what will you tell to people?
Is Kuran a word of God or not?? "
I do not think people are as obsessed with the Quran as you are, neither do they look at it to explain the farcial US WOT unless they happen to be clueless bigots like Hamid and you. If someone asks me about the Quran, I tell them what I think it is and that it is none of my business to tell them what they should think about it, that is for them to discover..
PS: To me, it is what it claims to be, the very word of God, and my conclusion is not based on someone telling me what it is. Now go climb a pole
Bleak indeed especially since the person drawing the picture has absolutely no sense of reality of knowledge of what is going on from the playbook of the American elite to construct a bogeyman, using which they steal the world blind. It has absolutely nothing to do with rampaging Muslim hoardes, pedophile worship, battle for the Muslim soul or what not. Absolutely nothing!
Pinku writes "
what will you tell to people?
Is Kuran a word of God or not?? "
I do not think people are as obsessed with the Quran as you are, neither do they look at it to explain the farcial US WOT unless they happen to be clueless bigots like Hamid and you. If someone asks me about the Quran, I tell them what I think it is and that it is none of my business to tell them what they should think about it, that is for them to discover..
PS: To me, it is what it claims to be, the very word of God, and my conclusion is not based on someone telling me what it is. Now go climb a pole
#145 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 28, 2008 9:41:15 pm
MQM supreme Leader Quaid E Awam Altaf hussain expressed great shock and offered prayers for victoms and and great sympathy for people of india, comdemned terror people.He was meeting at MQM international headquartes in London and silence was observed.
#144 Posted by tahmed32 on July 28, 2008 8:28:43 pm
hamidm: why are you joking with giani's agony? (or is it ecstasy at another chance to howl at religious minorities in India?)
#142 Posted by hamidm2 on July 28, 2008 6:31:19 pm
Re: # 141
giani mian,
.... this is not a muslim issue - it is a german issue ..... as tahmed has pointed out many times ,all this mayhem is because of the darn germans - these are the bloody people who were responsible for ww-1, ww-ii, the holocaust, bratwurst and the abbomination of sauerkraut ...... there is an alternative school of thought that blames all this, plus global warming, aids and head lice on the american elite ......... take your pick - americans or germans .... the mohammadens had nothing to do with it ...
giani mian,
.... this is not a muslim issue - it is a german issue ..... as tahmed has pointed out many times ,all this mayhem is because of the darn germans - these are the bloody people who were responsible for ww-1, ww-ii, the holocaust, bratwurst and the abbomination of sauerkraut ...... there is an alternative school of thought that blames all this, plus global warming, aids and head lice on the american elite ......... take your pick - americans or germans .... the mohammadens had nothing to do with it ...
#141 Posted by giani_240 on July 28, 2008 4:02:23 pm
Dear lalit bhai - heartfelt condolences.
To the rest of the folks, IMHO, this is not a Hindu- Muslim issue. It is entirely a Muslim issue - for control of the Muslim soul. Unfortunately, the fundamentalists are winning because the moderate ones are too meek to rise up and fight for their own souls. A few more "victories" by the fundamentalists could result in a very violent backlash that could consume even the moderate muslims.
Any comments from the moderate muslims?
To the rest of the folks, IMHO, this is not a Hindu- Muslim issue. It is entirely a Muslim issue - for control of the Muslim soul. Unfortunately, the fundamentalists are winning because the moderate ones are too meek to rise up and fight for their own souls. A few more "victories" by the fundamentalists could result in a very violent backlash that could consume even the moderate muslims.
Any comments from the moderate muslims?
#140 Posted by ajeya on July 28, 2008 1:38:19 pm
Nothing ever changes. Another series of bomb blasts by the "Shantists" (I am borrowing the term from another interactor - I thought it is very appropriate). More people dead, dying, dismembered, disembowelled. More families torn apart. Gut-wrenching grief. Fathers losing their sons, sons losing their mothers. More Islamic apologists like Tahmed blaming it on common human nature - to be dealt with as a simple law and order issue. More excuses like finding separate "root causes" for murder and violence against the "other" in every country under the sun. More attempts to blame the victim - in this case Hindus. More liberals and commies (like Parthaab) finding this an excellent opportunity to hawk their wares, and assist the Islamic cause in the process. I just came back from a trip where at every airport I, and every other passenger had to go through hours of painful waiting, and security checks - pat-downs and taking off of shoes and belts. And all this because the Shantists have "root causes"! (Islamic apologists still haven't explained why this "root cause" syndrome is peculiar to only ONE religion).
Is there an end in sight? I suggest that things will get worse before they get better. We should maybe put liberals and commies to work as landmine detectors and for de-fusing Shantist IEDs. I think Parthaab will make an excellent bomb-defuser. The day has to come when the word "Islamist" or "Muslim" will be reviled everywhere under the sun just like the word "Nazi" or "Skinhead" or "Stalinist" or "Fascist". If that day doesn't come, then Tahmed's hordes will take over the world. The liberals and commies, being cowardly in nature, will quietly convert and assimilate withing the pedophile-worshippers' ranks. That's a bleak picture to contemplate for my children, and maybe even me.
Is there an end in sight? I suggest that things will get worse before they get better. We should maybe put liberals and commies to work as landmine detectors and for de-fusing Shantist IEDs. I think Parthaab will make an excellent bomb-defuser. The day has to come when the word "Islamist" or "Muslim" will be reviled everywhere under the sun just like the word "Nazi" or "Skinhead" or "Stalinist" or "Fascist". If that day doesn't come, then Tahmed's hordes will take over the world. The liberals and commies, being cowardly in nature, will quietly convert and assimilate withing the pedophile-worshippers' ranks. That's a bleak picture to contemplate for my children, and maybe even me.
#139 Posted by mohar1l on July 28, 2008 11:35:58 am
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#136 Posted by pinku on July 28, 2008 11:01:06 am
#127 Posted by masadi,
what will you tell to people?
Is Kuran a word of God or not??
what will you tell to people?
Is Kuran a word of God or not??
#135 Posted by pinku on July 28, 2008 10:49:05 am
#125 Posted by tahmed32
right, we have to do whatever we can.
problem with commonsense part of your suggestion is that they already have all that commonsense but they simply can't use it to overrule their psychology of fear.
Depending upon their fear of speaking God, or those texts your effort to get them to use their common sense may well be almost infinite.
When you are closer to truth (eg when you say no book is word of God), then acceptance will get increased momentum later on and soon people in conflict with the idea will find it hard to propagate that idea.
right, we have to do whatever we can.
problem with commonsense part of your suggestion is that they already have all that commonsense but they simply can't use it to overrule their psychology of fear.
Depending upon their fear of speaking God, or those texts your effort to get them to use their common sense may well be almost infinite.
When you are closer to truth (eg when you say no book is word of God), then acceptance will get increased momentum later on and soon people in conflict with the idea will find it hard to propagate that idea.
#134 Posted by tahir on July 28, 2008 10:47:43 am
Re: # 65 Urgent-13
"what matters is the way the way muslims interpret the koran"
I don't! Can you make peace with ME now and spit out that poisonous 'paan' you've been chewing?
"what matters is the way the way muslims interpret the koran"
I don't! Can you make peace with ME now and spit out that poisonous 'paan' you've been chewing?
#133 Posted by dost_mittar on July 28, 2008 10:41:41 am
tahmed32:
Yes, Mahabharat is very popular. It is personally my favourite as it is a great classic: The complexity of characters, twists and turns of events, fantasies involving humans and gods and the avoidance of simple good/evil and complex morality is amazing and makes me proud of our ancestors to have ceated such an epic.
Why it is not kept at homes? Well, we are a superstitious people and think that keeping it at home would lead to domestic disharmony, as happened to the extended family in Mahabharat.
Yes, Mahabharat is very popular. It is personally my favourite as it is a great classic: The complexity of characters, twists and turns of events, fantasies involving humans and gods and the avoidance of simple good/evil and complex morality is amazing and makes me proud of our ancestors to have ceated such an epic.
Why it is not kept at homes? Well, we are a superstitious people and think that keeping it at home would lead to domestic disharmony, as happened to the extended family in Mahabharat.
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