Beena Sarwar August 18, 2008
#118 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 9:05:07 am
Re: # 102
zeemax,
... it is a sad story ..... you see i trusted my banker, a paki who is a family friend and basically a decent chap ...... he advised me to convert my fe-25 account into the rupee because the rupee was giving a ten plus percent interest while the dollar was paying 1-2 % ...... for many years the rupee held steady between 60 and 62 and like many pathetic pakis who just can't help acting like pakis, i too began to to believe that this godforsaken country had a future .......... i should have known better and i blame the british for abandoning us ......
.... but i have learned my lesson and converted my inheritance to the all mighty dollar at 75 ..... i see the rupee at 200 in six months ........ ganderis went up to sixty rupees a kilo .... hun choopo !
zeemax,
... it is a sad story ..... you see i trusted my banker, a paki who is a family friend and basically a decent chap ...... he advised me to convert my fe-25 account into the rupee because the rupee was giving a ten plus percent interest while the dollar was paying 1-2 % ...... for many years the rupee held steady between 60 and 62 and like many pathetic pakis who just can't help acting like pakis, i too began to to believe that this godforsaken country had a future .......... i should have known better and i blame the british for abandoning us ......
.... but i have learned my lesson and converted my inheritance to the all mighty dollar at 75 ..... i see the rupee at 200 in six months ........ ganderis went up to sixty rupees a kilo .... hun choopo !
#117 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 8:08:53 am
#111 Posted by tahmed32,
Ashamed to admit this tahmed, but I was wrong since Feb 18.
This has merely been a passing of the baton from mussharraf to zardari by USA in the relay race of WOT.
The consequences are very costly in the short term.
Ashamed to admit this tahmed, but I was wrong since Feb 18.
This has merely been a passing of the baton from mussharraf to zardari by USA in the relay race of WOT.
The consequences are very costly in the short term.
#116 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 8:04:45 am
#115 Posted by hamidm2,
What do you have anything to do with the Pakistani Rupee anyway. How did you have faith in it?
What do you have anything to do with the Pakistani Rupee anyway. How did you have faith in it?
#115 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 7:48:42 am
Re: # 103
zeemax,
.... "You're an Australian, a murtid, and a white man - even more so than hamidm." .....
.... how can you say that after i lost more than 25% of my assests because of my faith in the paki rupee which, like the koran, is turning out to be worth less than the paper it is printed out ....... i am deeply offended
zeemax,
.... "You're an Australian, a murtid, and a white man - even more so than hamidm." .....
.... how can you say that after i lost more than 25% of my assests because of my faith in the paki rupee which, like the koran, is turning out to be worth less than the paper it is printed out ....... i am deeply offended
#114 Posted by Afat on August 24, 2008 7:47:48 am
aik sawal our hey , Kiya aik aisay saddar-e-pakistan ka duniya meen aitebar hoo ga , jo apnay hi kiyee huway tehriri mohidoon say aik huftay baad hi mukar jaata hoo...??
sadder-e-pakistan , agar Zardari bun janta hey too.
Angeraizi meen likhney ki koshish kertey heen.
..the question arises, should the world then trust the President of Pakistan , who is known to back track on his OWN written agreements....??
President of Pakistan if Zardari becomes One.
sadder-e-pakistan , agar Zardari bun janta hey too.
Angeraizi meen likhney ki koshish kertey heen.
..the question arises, should the world then trust the President of Pakistan , who is known to back track on his OWN written agreements....??
President of Pakistan if Zardari becomes One.
#113 Posted by Afat on August 24, 2008 7:47:42 am
aik sawal our hey , Kiya aik aisay saddar-e-pakistan ka duniya meen aitebar hoo ga , jo apnay hi kiyee huway tehriri mohidoon say aik huftay baad hi mukar jaata hoo...??
sadder-e-pakistan , agar Zardari bun janta hey too.
Angeraizi meen likhney ki koshish kertey heen.
..the question arises, should the world then trust the President of Pakistan , who is known to back track on his OWN written agreements....??
President of Pakistan if Zardari becomes One.
sadder-e-pakistan , agar Zardari bun janta hey too.
Angeraizi meen likhney ki koshish kertey heen.
..the question arises, should the world then trust the President of Pakistan , who is known to back track on his OWN written agreements....??
President of Pakistan if Zardari becomes One.
#112 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 7:45:31 am
Re: # 110
zeemax,
"What has happened is unbelievable. Written agreements broken three times, the last one sworn over a Qura'an. "
.... why is that so unbelievable? .... i have been telling you for a long time that the book is not worth the paper it is written on
zeemax,
"What has happened is unbelievable. Written agreements broken three times, the last one sworn over a Qura'an. "
.... why is that so unbelievable? .... i have been telling you for a long time that the book is not worth the paper it is written on
#111 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 7:35:08 am
zeemax: you would know better, but it seems to me that PPP won because they had a much better grass-roots nation-wide organization than PMLN. That is why they won.
And the electorate voted for the party, not for zardari (whom they were prepared to give a second chance, given his positive words after benazirs death). so the electorate in fact made a reasonable choice.
and given that return to civilian rule, zardari does not have the capacity to do the kind of damage mush did and would have continued to do. so Pakistan Electorate Zindabad!! :-)
And the electorate voted for the party, not for zardari (whom they were prepared to give a second chance, given his positive words after benazirs death). so the electorate in fact made a reasonable choice.
and given that return to civilian rule, zardari does not have the capacity to do the kind of damage mush did and would have continued to do. so Pakistan Electorate Zindabad!! :-)
#110 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 7:22:34 am
#108 Posted by tahmed32,
tahmed, what zardari said was unforgivable. He was talking about agreements that those are not Ayats or Hadees which can't be changed. That reference was totally irrelevant.
Any agreement can be changed, BUT only with the consent of all the signatories to it. No single signatory can change it on his own. These are simple principles of any business contract - let alone the destiny of nations.
This dragging in of Qura'an and Hadees to justify lies will drag this person to the most dreadful fate. I have no doubt about that. It is etched in people's mind as nothing else is.
My only concern is that, after all, PPP is elected by a majority, as are its cohorts in their respective constituencies. That reflects very badly on their electorate. Is that what their voters want?
That is my question. What do you think?
tahmed, what zardari said was unforgivable. He was talking about agreements that those are not Ayats or Hadees which can't be changed. That reference was totally irrelevant.
Any agreement can be changed, BUT only with the consent of all the signatories to it. No single signatory can change it on his own. These are simple principles of any business contract - let alone the destiny of nations.
This dragging in of Qura'an and Hadees to justify lies will drag this person to the most dreadful fate. I have no doubt about that. It is etched in people's mind as nothing else is.
My only concern is that, after all, PPP is elected by a majority, as are its cohorts in their respective constituencies. That reflects very badly on their electorate. Is that what their voters want?
That is my question. What do you think?
#109 Posted by akcheema on August 24, 2008 7:01:19 am
Re: # 103
I am far more a Pakistani than you'll ever be!! exactly how long have you been having these fruitful discussions here? and exactly what have you achieved? apart from threatening people with bombs if "your lot" didn't get their way!
I am far more a Pakistani than you'll ever be!! exactly how long have you been having these fruitful discussions here? and exactly what have you achieved? apart from threatening people with bombs if "your lot" didn't get their way!
#108 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 7:00:50 am
zeemax: you will notice btw how zardari dragged in Islam yesterday (claiming, incorrectly, that a man's word is not considered as sacred as the Quran). This is an example of what i talk about when i say rogues exploit people's emotions on religion for personal gain, and we should keep religion out of politics.
#107 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 6:57:40 am
zeemax #104 no doubt the nation is paying a heavy cost for the fact that while one shoe (dictatorship) fell (thanks to PMLN and general public pressure), the other shoe (restoration of the judiciary, accountability of musharraf and other lawbreakers) has been prevented from falling by zardari.
let us just hope that the other shoe falls sooner than later - without the rule of law, there can be no economic progress. investors dont come, income generating international events dont take place.
let us just hope that the other shoe falls sooner than later - without the rule of law, there can be no economic progress. investors dont come, income generating international events dont take place.
#106 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 6:57:05 am
What has happened is unbelievable. Written agreements broken three times, the last one sworn over a Qura'an.
Anyone of any principles at all would have believed each and every single one, and the last even a thief. No wonder a seasoned politician like Nawaz Sharif was checkmated with lies. Who could have thought those were all lies?
But that's not where the problem is i.e. with Zardari alone. It is also with Asfandyar Wali who had said in Karachi "Ham kabhi beyghairati nahi karein gey". What to speak of Fazlur-Rehman and MQM. These are all elected people.
If they betrayed the trust of their voters, it's a different matter. People will see to that. However if they didn't, and that's what their electorate really wanted, then there's big trouble ahead between Punjab and the rest.
Anyone of any principles at all would have believed each and every single one, and the last even a thief. No wonder a seasoned politician like Nawaz Sharif was checkmated with lies. Who could have thought those were all lies?
But that's not where the problem is i.e. with Zardari alone. It is also with Asfandyar Wali who had said in Karachi "Ham kabhi beyghairati nahi karein gey". What to speak of Fazlur-Rehman and MQM. These are all elected people.
If they betrayed the trust of their voters, it's a different matter. People will see to that. However if they didn't, and that's what their electorate really wanted, then there's big trouble ahead between Punjab and the rest.
#105 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 6:52:31 am
#99 ayub may have gotten his face on the back of a rickshaw - but that rickshaw was headed to the garbage dump, not to the president's house.
what continues to escape your attention is the fact that mush was history the day he was separated from his uniform. that day, power shifted, quietly and without fanfare, from the one man to the voters of Pakistan. the die was cast that day for mush to to go from weakness to weakness, with a picture on the back of a rickshaw being the best he can hope for today.
what continues to escape your attention is the fact that mush was history the day he was separated from his uniform. that day, power shifted, quietly and without fanfare, from the one man to the voters of Pakistan. the die was cast that day for mush to to go from weakness to weakness, with a picture on the back of a rickshaw being the best he can hope for today.
#104 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 6:49:40 am
#90 Posted by tahmed32,
All of what you say is correct. In fact, I'll give the new set up six months - no more. But in the meantime there'll be hell to pay.
And who will bear the cost? The Pakistani people. Runaway inflation, economic ruin, and bombs - a lot of them.
All of what you say is correct. In fact, I'll give the new set up six months - no more. But in the meantime there'll be hell to pay.
And who will bear the cost? The Pakistani people. Runaway inflation, economic ruin, and bombs - a lot of them.
#103 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 6:46:23 am
akcheema,
Do me a favour. Please stay out of Pakistan Politics discussions amongst Pakistanis. You're an Australian, a murtid, and a white man - even more so than hamidm.
Please comment on Canberra politics to Australians, and not to Pakistanis who have an emotional attachment with the Pakistan current affairs.
Thanks.
Do me a favour. Please stay out of Pakistan Politics discussions amongst Pakistanis. You're an Australian, a murtid, and a white man - even more so than hamidm.
Please comment on Canberra politics to Australians, and not to Pakistanis who have an emotional attachment with the Pakistan current affairs.
Thanks.
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