unflinching idealism ... since 1997 archivessitemapabouthelpfeedback
all are welcome to read, write and think
  • Home
  • InFocus
  • Themes
  • Columns
  • Articles
  • Fiction
  • iLogs
  • Gallery
  • Unplugged
  • Writers
  • Interactors
  • Tags
Sign in | Join Chowk
web chowk
  • Article
  • Interact
  • read writer comments
  • add to favorites
  • get rss feeds
  • print
  • email this link

Musharraf's Resignation and Beyond

Beena Sarwar August 18, 2008

Latest comments   flat   threaded   latest   oldest   all
listing 176-192   7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

#118 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 9:05:07 am
Re: # 102

zeemax,

... it is a sad story ..... you see i trusted my banker, a paki who is a family friend and basically a decent chap ...... he advised me to convert my fe-25 account into the rupee because the rupee was giving a ten plus percent interest while the dollar was paying 1-2 % ...... for many years the rupee held steady between 60 and 62 and like many pathetic pakis who just can't help acting like pakis, i too began to to believe that this godforsaken country had a future .......... i should have known better and i blame the british for abandoning us ......

.... but i have learned my lesson and converted my inheritance to the all mighty dollar at 75 ..... i see the rupee at 200 in six months ........ ganderis went up to sixty rupees a kilo .... hun choopo !
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#117 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 8:08:53 am
#111 Posted by tahmed32,

Ashamed to admit this tahmed, but I was wrong since Feb 18.

This has merely been a passing of the baton from mussharraf to zardari by USA in the relay race of WOT.

The consequences are very costly in the short term.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#116 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 8:04:45 am
#115 Posted by hamidm2,

What do you have anything to do with the Pakistani Rupee anyway. How did you have faith in it?
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#115 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 7:48:42 am
Re: # 103

zeemax,

.... "You're an Australian, a murtid, and a white man - even more so than hamidm." .....

.... how can you say that after i lost more than 25% of my assests because of my faith in the paki rupee which, like the koran, is turning out to be worth less than the paper it is printed out ....... i am deeply offended
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#114 Posted by Afat on August 24, 2008 7:47:48 am
aik sawal our hey , Kiya aik aisay saddar-e-pakistan ka duniya meen aitebar hoo ga , jo apnay hi kiyee huway tehriri mohidoon say aik huftay baad hi mukar jaata hoo...??


sadder-e-pakistan , agar Zardari bun janta hey too.


Angeraizi meen likhney ki koshish kertey heen.


..the question arises, should the world then trust the President of Pakistan , who is known to back track on his OWN written agreements....??


President of Pakistan if Zardari becomes One.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#113 Posted by Afat on August 24, 2008 7:47:42 am
aik sawal our hey , Kiya aik aisay saddar-e-pakistan ka duniya meen aitebar hoo ga , jo apnay hi kiyee huway tehriri mohidoon say aik huftay baad hi mukar jaata hoo...??


sadder-e-pakistan , agar Zardari bun janta hey too.


Angeraizi meen likhney ki koshish kertey heen.


..the question arises, should the world then trust the President of Pakistan , who is known to back track on his OWN written agreements....??


President of Pakistan if Zardari becomes One.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#112 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 7:45:31 am
Re: # 110

zeemax,

"What has happened is unbelievable. Written agreements broken three times, the last one sworn over a Qura'an. "

.... why is that so unbelievable? .... i have been telling you for a long time that the book is not worth the paper it is written on
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#111 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 7:35:08 am
zeemax: you would know better, but it seems to me that PPP won because they had a much better grass-roots nation-wide organization than PMLN. That is why they won.

And the electorate voted for the party, not for zardari (whom they were prepared to give a second chance, given his positive words after benazirs death). so the electorate in fact made a reasonable choice.

and given that return to civilian rule, zardari does not have the capacity to do the kind of damage mush did and would have continued to do. so Pakistan Electorate Zindabad!! :-)
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#110 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 7:22:34 am
#108 Posted by tahmed32,

tahmed, what zardari said was unforgivable. He was talking about agreements that those are not Ayats or Hadees which can't be changed. That reference was totally irrelevant.

Any agreement can be changed, BUT only with the consent of all the signatories to it. No single signatory can change it on his own. These are simple principles of any business contract - let alone the destiny of nations.

This dragging in of Qura'an and Hadees to justify lies will drag this person to the most dreadful fate. I have no doubt about that. It is etched in people's mind as nothing else is.

My only concern is that, after all, PPP is elected by a majority, as are its cohorts in their respective constituencies. That reflects very badly on their electorate. Is that what their voters want?

That is my question. What do you think?
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#109 Posted by akcheema on August 24, 2008 7:01:19 am
Re: # 103

I am far more a Pakistani than you'll ever be!! exactly how long have you been having these fruitful discussions here? and exactly what have you achieved? apart from threatening people with bombs if "your lot" didn't get their way!
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#108 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 7:00:50 am
zeemax: you will notice btw how zardari dragged in Islam yesterday (claiming, incorrectly, that a man's word is not considered as sacred as the Quran). This is an example of what i talk about when i say rogues exploit people's emotions on religion for personal gain, and we should keep religion out of politics.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#107 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 6:57:40 am
zeemax #104 no doubt the nation is paying a heavy cost for the fact that while one shoe (dictatorship) fell (thanks to PMLN and general public pressure), the other shoe (restoration of the judiciary, accountability of musharraf and other lawbreakers) has been prevented from falling by zardari.

let us just hope that the other shoe falls sooner than later - without the rule of law, there can be no economic progress. investors dont come, income generating international events dont take place.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#106 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 6:57:05 am
What has happened is unbelievable. Written agreements broken three times, the last one sworn over a Qura'an.

Anyone of any principles at all would have believed each and every single one, and the last even a thief. No wonder a seasoned politician like Nawaz Sharif was checkmated with lies. Who could have thought those were all lies?

But that's not where the problem is i.e. with Zardari alone. It is also with Asfandyar Wali who had said in Karachi "Ham kabhi beyghairati nahi karein gey". What to speak of Fazlur-Rehman and MQM. These are all elected people.

If they betrayed the trust of their voters, it's a different matter. People will see to that. However if they didn't, and that's what their electorate really wanted, then there's big trouble ahead between Punjab and the rest.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#105 Posted by tahmed32 on August 24, 2008 6:52:31 am
#99 ayub may have gotten his face on the back of a rickshaw - but that rickshaw was headed to the garbage dump, not to the president's house.

what continues to escape your attention is the fact that mush was history the day he was separated from his uniform. that day, power shifted, quietly and without fanfare, from the one man to the voters of Pakistan. the die was cast that day for mush to to go from weakness to weakness, with a picture on the back of a rickshaw being the best he can hope for today.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#104 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 6:49:40 am
#90 Posted by tahmed32,

All of what you say is correct. In fact, I'll give the new set up six months - no more. But in the meantime there'll be hell to pay.

And who will bear the cost? The Pakistani people. Runaway inflation, economic ruin, and bombs - a lot of them.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#103 Posted by zeemax on August 24, 2008 6:46:23 am
akcheema,

Do me a favour. Please stay out of Pakistan Politics discussions amongst Pakistanis. You're an Australian, a murtid, and a white man - even more so than hamidm.

Please comment on Canberra politics to Australians, and not to Pakistanis who have an emotional attachment with the Pakistan current affairs.

Thanks.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
listing 176-192   7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17

Interact Index

    #294 MatloobZaman
    #293 tahir
    #292 nkg
    #291 MatloobZaman
    #290 MatloobZaman
    #289 akcheema
    #288 ijaz_gul
    #287 zeemax
    #286 masadi
    #285 pinku
    #284 pinku
    #283 pinku
    #282 tahmed32
    #281 tahmed32
    #280 MatloobZaman
    #279 MatloobZaman
    #278 bubba
    #277 ajeya
    #276 ajeya
    #275 hamidm2
    #274 ajeya
    #273 ajeya
    #272 Ahmadzai
    #271 Ahmadzai
    #270 bulleya
    #269 masadi
    #268 hamidm2
    #267 masadi
    #266 masadi
    #265 tahmed32
    #264 tahmed32
    #263 masadi
    #262 masadi
    #261 hamidm2
    #260 tahmed32
    #259 hamidm2
    #258 tahmed32
    #257 masadi
    #256 masadi
    #255 hamidm2
    #254 tahmed32
    #253 tahmed32
    #252 ijaz_gul
    #251 ijaz_gul
    #250 tahmed32
    #249 tahmed32
    #248 ijaz_gul
    #247 tahmed32
    #246 hamidm2
    #245 tahmed32
    #244 zeemax
    #243 zeemax
    #242 tahmed32
    #241 ijaz_gul
    #240 zeemax
    #239 bulleya
    #238 tahmed32
    #237 tahmed32
    #236 bulleya
    #235 tahmed32
    #234 tahmed32
    #233 akcheema
    #232 hamidm2
    #231 hamidm2
    #230 rf786
    #229 tahmed32
    #228 tahmed32
    #227 zeemax
    #226 zeemax
    #225 ijaz_gul
    #224 majumdar
    #223 zeemax
    #222 ijaz_gul
    #221 bulleya
    #220 zeemax
    #219 majumdar
    #218 zeemax
    #217 ijaz_gul
    #216 MatloobZaman
    #215 MatloobZaman
    #214 tahmed32
    #213 peonofthewest
    #212 masadi
    #211 masadi
    #210 masadi
    #209 masadi
    #208 masadi
    #207 masadi
    #206 masadi
    #205 bubba
    #204 akcheema
    #203 tahmed32
    #202 tahmed32
    #201 hamidm2
    #200 hamidm2
    #199 hamidm2
    #198 antiIslamofascist5
    #197 ijaz_gul
    #196 tahmed32
    #195 Levitate
    #194 tahmed32
    #193 hamidm2
    #192 tahmed32
    #191 bulleya
    #190 hamidm2
    #189 nkg
    #188 nkg
    #187 harish_hyd
    #186 Levitate
    #185 Levitate
    #184 harish_hyd
    #183 Levitate
    #182 nkg
    #181 harish_hyd
    #180 nkg
    #179 Levitate
    #178 akcheema
    #177 majumdar
    #176 Levitate
    #175 majumdar
    #174 Levitate
    #173 Levitate
    #172 harish_hyd
    #171 Levitate
    #170 harish_hyd
    #169 majumdar
    #168 harish_hyd
    #167 Levitate
    #166 majumdar
    #165 harish_hyd
    #164 majumdar
    #163 harish_hyd
    #162 harish_hyd
    #161 majumdar
    #160 harish_hyd
    #159 nkg
    #158 bulleya
    #157 MatloobZaman
    #156 majumdar
    #155 akcheema
    #154 majumdar
    #153 majumdar
    #152 ijaz_gul
    #151 masadi
    #150 ijaz_gul
    #149 ahmedmadani
    #148 ahmedmadani
    #147 bubba
    #146 akcheema
    #145 bubba
    #144 akcheema
    #143 antiIslamofascist5
    #142 antiIslamofascist5
    #141 antiIslamofascist5
    #140 tahmed32
    #139 antiIslamofascist5
    #138 hamidm2
    #137 bubba
    #136 rf786
    #135 ijaz_gul
    #134 ijaz_gul
    #133 rf786
    #132 masadi
    #131 ijaz_gul
    #130 ijaz_gul
    #129 rf786
    #128 bubba
    #127 bubba
    #126 zeemax
    #125 sattar2
    #124 ijaz_gul
    #123 rf786
    #122 hamidm2
    #121 zeemax
    #120 zeemax
    #119 tahmed32
    #118 hamidm2
    #117 zeemax
    #116 zeemax
    #115 hamidm2
    #114 Afat
    #113 Afat
    #112 hamidm2
    #111 tahmed32
    #110 zeemax
    #109 akcheema
    #108 tahmed32
    #107 tahmed32
    #106 zeemax
    #105 tahmed32
    #104 zeemax
    #103 zeemax
    #102 bulleya
    #101 hamidm2
    #100 bulleya
    #99 hamidm2
    #98 tahmed32
    #97 akcheema
    #96 hamidm2
    #95 akcheema
    #94 hamidm2
    #93 hamidm2
    #92 bulleya
    #91 akcheema
    #90 tahmed32
    #89 tahmed32
    #88 zeemax
    #87 bulleya
    #86 hamidm2
    #85 masadi
    #84 masadi
    #83 masadi
    #82 tahmed32
    #81 hamidm2
    #80 tahmed32
    #79 masadi
    #78 masadi
    #77 masadi
    #76 masadi
    #75 tahir
    #74 zeemax
    #73 tahir
    #72 zeemax
    #71 bubba
    #70 zeemax
    #69 antiIslamofascist3
    #68 tahmed32
    #67 bubba
    #66 tahmed32
    #65 hamidm2
    #64 captainjohann
    #63 masadi
    #62 masadi
    #61 masadi
    #60 sattar2
    #59 masadi
    #58 masadi
    #57 masadi
    #56 Pardaisi
    #55 tahmed32
    #54 sattar2
    #53 tahmed32
    #52 tahmed32
    #51 sattar2
    #50 masadi
    #49 masadi
    #48 Pardesi
    #47 bubba
    #46 Pardesi
    #45 ahmedmadani
    #44 tahmed32
    #43 tahmed32
    #42 hamidm2
    #41 Ahmadzai
    #40 tahmed32
    #39 masadi
    #38 tahmed32
    #37 ahmedmadani
    #36 tahmed32
    #35 tahmed32
    #34 ajeya
    #33 ajeya
    #32 masadi
    #31 masadi
    #30 masadi
    #29 masadi
    #28 ajeya
    #27 ajeya
    #26 masadi
    #25 ajeya
    #24 ajeya
    #23 ajeya
    #22 tahmed32
    #21 tahmed32
    #20 Leadenwinter
    #19 ijaz_gul
    #18 Ahmadzai
    #17 Ahmadzai
    #16 nkg
    #15 guru
    #14 ahmedmadani
    #13 masadi
    #12 ahmedmadani
    #11 masadi
    #10 majumdar
    #9 ahmedmadani
    #8 ahmedmadani
    #7 ahmedmadani
    #6 tahmed32
    #5 tahmed32
    #4 ahmedmadani
    #3 Eklavya
    #2 Ahmadzai
    #1 BJ2

Latest Interacts

  • zeemax: Padash, What if she is... My Lover Girl
  • Dash_Dot: much as I loathe... My Lover Girl
  • raiya_23: padash I love the... My Lover Girl
  • parthaab: Re: # 19 GENDER IS... A Very Costly Bill
  • parthaab: Huh?... My Lover Girl
  • ahmedmadani: This type of life... My Lover Girl
  • Taji: You sure bring characters... My Lover Girl
  • tahmed32: if padash is here... My Lover Girl

THEMES

  • Pakistan's Struggle for Democracy
  • The Indian Story
  • Indo-Pak Relations
  • Personal Narratives
  • Religion Today
  • War on Terror
  • Role of Media
  • Call for Social Change
  • Hold Them Accountable
  • Environment and Us
  • Way of Life
more »

Top 5 Articles This Week

  • Popular
  • Understanding Islamic Revival In Its Proper Context
  • The Desert of Possibility: Part II
  • A Very Costly Bill
  • A Ward of the State
  • Who is Maqbool Bhat?
  • Featured
  • There are a Lot of Monkeys
  • White Charade
  • Words of a Woman
  • FOX News and the Smelly Shoes
  • Dilemmas of Creative Children
  • 10 Years Ago
  • Our Real and Imaginary Complexes are Not Complex
  • Talibanization or the Turkish Model?
  • An Inward Journey to Pakistan - Part 2
  • Fate
  • Why Not This One?

Write on Chowk Interact Guidelines Privacy policy Terms Contact

Copyright © 1997 - 2010 chowk.com. All Rights Reserved
Reproduction of material on any www.chowk.com pages without prior written permissions is strictly prohibited