Musharraf's Resignation and Beyond

tahmed writes "hamidm #259 " the white man's rule and his law for the subordinates"

such a law exists only inside your and masadi's heads. so, in calling for this, you two are in agreement in your view of the world whereby you are hardwired to see the rest of Pakistan the way you see yourselves - as subhumans, grovelling (in your case) or ranting (in masadi's case) before your gora gods."

Ahmad sahib, salam and greetings of peace. It is quite obvious to all Chowkies that you are the one worshipping the white man, pushing his agenda and try to mask his interference in Pakistani affairs, all for the purpose of keeping Pakistanis subordinate. In this "turning on its head" of the actual facts in a most illogial manner, you have proven nothing. At least Hamid is clear on where he stands, dispicable as that stand might be. You on the other hand want colonization times ten and will be happy cleaning the white man's toilet the rest of your life but hide it to manipulate and deceive.

The CJ has no "law" on his side thus far, he doesn't even have a job in the Judiciary and these manipulations have revealed quite clearly that the white man's "law" for the subordinates and countries that are under his control is the "law" that is prevailing. You want to hide it so that people do not rebel against it, you want to keep it elusive just as the US elite keep the class and race situation in their country "under the rug"- facts that exist in the objective world cannot be so easily hidden by slights of hand like you are attempting to do.

Those that see Pakistanis as sub humans are not those that expose the mechanism that have enslaved our people (like myself) rather they are those that want to perpetuate their slavery to the white man (like you).

Have a nice day for the judgment is nigh
TNI Masadi

Re: # 260

tahmed,

.... you still haven't answered my question about 'which law?' ......

..... i know you are obsessed with the droopy eyed cj and his handlers, but you forget that at the end of the day they are just pakis, like you and i ...... did you see aitizaz rush to endorse zardari for president ? ..... what do you make of that?

.... i wouldn't be surprised if the narcoleoptic judge accepts ten crore rupees and the ambassadorship to fiji ..... the people of fiji have been waiting for him ....

hamidm #259 " the white man's rule and his law for the subordinates"

such a law exists only inside your and masadi's heads. so, in calling for this, you two are in agreement in your view of the world whereby you are hardwired to see the rest of Pakistan the way you see yourselves - as subhumans, grovelling (in your case) or ranting (in masadi's case) before your gora gods.

The law the rest of the world understands today, the law that led the CJ to deny musharraf a rubber stamp to continue as "hosni mubarak", the law that led the CJ to demand habeas corpus for those musharraf "disappeared" is not something you can understand, given your hard-wiring.

So, carry on. You two have my sincere condolences at your poor wiring system.

Re: # 256

masadi,

.... if what you say is true and tahmed is talking about the white man's rule and his law for the subordinates, then i am with him ....... a long time ago my grandmother (dgod bless her soul) used to say the same thing: "angrez kay zamanney mein atta ath annay mun hota tha, aur mulk mein aman o amaan tha" ..... i will up dinesh d'souza's two cheers for colonialism to three ..........

#255 hamidm: "such niceties (i.e. an independant judiciary) apply to civlized societies "

you obviously are confused about cause and effect.

Btw in addition to my comments of :no martial law in Pakistan by dictates of the president of the united states, read this from Dawn, "Federal Information Minister Sherry Rehman admitted that the PPP had signed agreements with the PML-N but claimed that “our other internal and external allies wanted us to take our own route after the resignation of President Musharraf�.

Have a nice day,
Keep it gracious keep it real
TNI Masadi

hamid writes to tahmed "tahmed,

..... you keep on talking about the 'rule of law,
but which law are you talking about"

Salam and greetings of peace to you sage (of the sewers). Tahmed is talking about the white man's rule and his law for the subordinates. I hope that makes his posts clearer to you.

Thank you for your patience but no thanks for the lack of graciousness in your posts,

The always gracious, never tenacious,

TNI Masadi

Re: # 250

tahmed,

..... you keep on talking about the 'rule of law', but which law are you talking about - the tribal law of fata, the sharia of swat, the panchayat law of southern punjab, martial law, or the law of the jungle ? ......... please clarify

..... rule of law and other such niceties apply to civlized societies that have been introduced to indoor plumbing and deodrant; they do not apply to the unwashed masses who still share their living quarters with their pet sheep ..... sorry, but you are old enough to hear the truth

ijaz gul: bye. please think about what i wrote in #250 a bit more.

#252 I never said "under Zardari". so, please dont accuse me of "firing from the hip" without reading carefully what i am saying.

The Rule of Law means an independent SC - the kind demonstrated by Iftikhar, not the kind that Zardari has been promising to consolidate replace one stupid, lawbreaking scoundrel (mush) with another (himself).

Tahmed,
You are again firing at me from the hip.
As for the Rule of Law under Zardari?
Unfortunately, I see many more Unnars, Twin city Scams etc to happen.
I just pray and hope that Preservation of Punjab Base does not add to the woes in this regard.
Bye for now.

an interesting debate.will join in three hours.

#248 ijaz gul: we all know about NS messing with the law - that was in the past. you dont drive looking at the rear view mirror.

i am trying to focus your attention on today's realities - and the reality is that without the rule of law, no nation can progress or offer its citizens a civilized, secure life. That is how important the issue is!! And the reality is that Nawaz Sharif is the only voice in the assemblies that has steadfastly championed this cause.

Leave the bs about "droopy eyelids" to hamidm. You are living in Pakistan, you care about the people of Pakistan. This is the future of Pakistan that is at stake.

#246 excellent pirouete, hamidm sahib.

actually you were rooting for musharraf - but, like genius zardari says, if it aint in the Quran and if urstruly aint swearing this to be the true Hadith, then you can change the story.

Re: # 245
Somehow you always miss my point. Why should rule of law not be important to me? surely it is.

I am talking of effects and not what I feel. The effect is that at the end of the day, the 'Rule of Law Thesis' of NS did not matter. This happened because NS and his team had certain shortcomings in that, despite a very popular pulse of people of Pakistan including us all, proved an anti thesis in itself.What a betrayal.

zeemax #240 i didnt want to disturb hamidm demonstrating how a lota swivels.