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Faith and Religion

Murad A Baig August 24, 2008

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#141 Posted by Artur on January 3, 2009 5:53:37 pm
Greetings Murarilal G:

You need to calm down a bit and take a deep breath.

I am an American and nobody here cares two bits for those pointy head college intellectuals who stick their nose into places they do not belong and distort everything with their armchair philosophy. These are people who have own phobias and addictions, who are overly involved with themselves and their ideas, and are always trying to outdo each other and are constantly seeking praise from their peers by writing shocking things and supporting liberal ideas and values that have been passed down to them.

You are correct in calling them elitists, but I doubt that any of them are white Christians. For instance, this Jeffrey Kripal you reference, who wrote Kali's Child, seems to be very focused on sex in general and on homosexuality in particular, and on the face of it, seems to be a gay activist. He obvhiously read homosexuality into Hindu writings where it simply did not exist.

Now me, I am a white Christian. I hardly ever even think about Hinduism and I never read these 'intellectual books' that has so offended you. Why, because it would be a big waste of my time. Reading them is counter-productive. Reading many such books can seruously damage one's mind.

I am a typical american. we work 8 hours a day. We try to put food on the table, raise our kids to be respectful, kind, courteous, and to get them a good education. In our spare time we may play a sport. I use to run a mens softball team for 15 years. I spent another 12 years coaching boys baseball. For 15 years I was involved in Christian Boys Service Brigade where we had fun, did great activities, and our ultimately goal was to help boys become men who will have leadership skills and do the good that God created them to do.

Now I am not totally ignorant of India. I studied Indian history in college, I read a half a dozen biographies on Mohandas Ghandi, whom I admired greatly. I admired the legal system that the British brought to India, but I hated the British elitism: how they looked down on India's people, exploited the Indian people, made them use separate bathrooms, water fountains, etc. and that horrid massacre at the black whole of calcutta. They were very unChristian in their practces.

I also supported two Hindu children to get an education. Mootilal SubMit and Ravi Sundaraj. And I worked along side many Hindu's in the construction/Engineering field and we got along very weel, trating each other as friends and with mutual respect. So please do not extrapolate those few bad apples that write those awful ungodly books with the rest of us.

Yours Truly,
Artur
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#140 Posted by satya100 on September 10, 2008 10:29:31 pm
Murarilal G,

Gadi Ko Maro Goli! I have not yet seen your progressive identity card with name Murarilal Lakhapurkar and also heart felt condolence for slaying of Swami and four swaminis/students. You are a hopeless Gandu #1. So please feed it back your preaching secularism in your cula ie rear hole. You are not different from "wordy" gandus such as Allaha Ki Maa who by their words cause deaths of millions and plunder.
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Till When will the Conversions Go On?

Tarun Vijay worries about the indifference among Indians for social destabilization being caused by the well-funded conversion campaign

Kandhmal is a tribal district of Orissa. Out of its total population of about 6 lakhs, about 52 percent belong to the Kandh tribe, who are mostly Hindus. In 1857, the local Kandh hero Chakra Bishoi rallied the local people and fought a brutal battle with the British. Immediately afterwards, the British let loose an army of missionaries to trigger mass conversions in the area so as to teach the Kandhs a lesson and pacify the area. The Kandhs, however, did not budge from their Hindu faith or their loyalty to the country and did not allow the strategy of British imperialists to succeed.

The missionaries took it as a personal insult and challenge. As a strategy to defeat the Kandhs, they kept assembling a lot of foreign funds in the area for proselytisation. This barrage of foreign money and aggressive proselytisation had the maximum affect on the local Panas community. Today about one and a half lakh converted Panas live in Kandhmal.
In this background, Swami laxmanand Saraswati arrived in the area in 1969, determined to work for the social and economic upliftment of the tribal people of Kandhmal district. He established an ashram called Chakkpad Ashram that carried forward the tradition of Adishankar in which service of poor people is considered worship of God by other means.

He gave education to thousands of tribal children, strengthened their Hindu faith and by acting as their protector and guardian thwarted many conversion campaigns driven by foreign funds. He was truly a revolutionary saint carrying forward the tradition of Gandhi, Vinoba Bhave and Thakkar Bapa who considered the service of poor and deprived as God worship.
On the day of Janashtami on August 23, some 10 to 15 people carrying AK-47 rifles assassinated him. In the firing, along with him were killed Mata Bhaktimayi, who was the matron of the girl’s hostel at the ashram, Swamiji’s disciple Amritanand and a child’s parent.

The violent incidents that followed were condemned by both the Pope as well as the Italian government. Prime minister Manmohan Singh, instead of rebuffing this attempt of foreign powers to comment on our internal affairs, actually expressed embarrassment at his own country.

India’s Catholic schools remained shut in protest of the violent incidents in Kandhamal that followed the death of Swamiji. In these Catholic schools, most of the students are Hindus, but these schools were not closed when a Hindu saint was murdered in cold blood. With this, the church as introduced to the country the tactic of using school children as pawns to pursue political agendas. This will have its own consequences in future.

Vatican was not bothered in the least that a peaceful Hindu saint doing social work was mercilessly killed by goons who it has been widely alleged are under the protection of the church. Nobody in his right mind can condone any kind of violence because no matter if a Hindu or Christian dies, we are all Indians. But the church and the UPA government in Delhi even communalized the pain of the Hindus over the death of the Swami.

In last year December, there was another attempt on Swamiji’s life which was not successful. After this attempt, many letters were written to the State Government and district administration for providing security to Swamiji but absolutely no action was taken by them. On August 9, in the Kulmaha village near Kandhamal, the Christians held a meeting. The meeting was attended by a notorious office-bearer of the All India Christian Council, the same person who some years ago gave a speech against India in the American Congress.

It essential for law-enforcement agencies to investigate the reason for the presence of this man in Kandhamal for many days preceding Swamiji’s murder. On August 13, a letter was received at Swamiji’s ashram threatening to eliminate him. The local newspapers or Orissa gave this letter a wide coverage, but absolutely no connection was taken by the state government to provide some kind of security to Swamiji.

Swamiji was well known in Kandhamal as a social reformer working in areas such as persuading people not to take alcohol and tobacco, maintain personal hygiene, regularly worship God and send their children for higher education. He established a Sanskrit school for the tribals. Many of his programmes in the areas of economic empowerment and medical facilities are still running in Kandhamal. Who could have gained by his murder? Local Christian elements immediately spread a canard that the Naxals-Maoists are responsible for his murder. This mischievous propaganda stopped only when the Maoists issued an official press release saying they have nothing to do with Swamiji’s killing.

Actually, no religion has been as brutal and barbaric for tribals all over the world as Christianity. The tribals in every Christianised country were converted on the strength of their slaughter. In 1493, Columbus discovered America. At that time, there were ten crore (100 million) tribal Red Indians in Americas as well as the Caribbean islands. Within 100 years of Columbus’ arrival, 70 million of these tribals got slaughtered by European Christians. In Cuba, Puerto Rico and Jamaica, there were 3 million tribals. Within 50 years of Columbus’s arrival, only 200 tribals were left. The rest got slaughtered. (Reference: “The Dark Side of Columbus’ Legacy� by Henry Ramsager.) The tribals of Australia, New Zealand and Brazil were similarly slaughtered or converted.

Social tension in India gets created when church becomes aggressive, abuses Hindu gods and goddesses and gets about converting people by hook or crook using massive resources. Nobody minds if anyone converts to any faith out of his own conviction and free will. But when conversions are done using deceit and force as a strategic move to reduce the Hindu population in an area, it is natural for Hindu anger to boil over.

Why is aggressive Christianity limited only to Hindu and Buddhist countries, and is never seen in Islamic countries? Instead of respecting the natural secularism ingrained in Hindus and Hinduism, the church tries to benefit from it to ensure their extinction.
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#139 Posted by satya100 on September 9, 2008 11:00:26 pm
Murarilal G

Since you like "wordy" G-giri, even though I am not into this and do not completely agree with this, it might be interesting to you:

"The deliberately viscious and hateful portrayal of Hindu civlisation in America is due to a phenomenon called "Hindu Phobia." White Christians, especially American intellectuals and elite who are the defenders of White Man's civilisation, have a visceral hatred of Hindu civilisation, driven by racial and religious motives.

The reason is not far to seek. They take a look at the Hindu spiritual literature -- Vedas, Gita, Upanishads and the six philosophies -- and they have their panties in a twist. There is nothing comparable in the entire western civilisation to this literature, and this Hindu literature got written when the Whites were swinging from trees.

Then they see Yoga, Ayurveda, classical dances, etc. which are the finest expressions of human intellect, and the White racist Christians are rolling in agony. Then they come to our ancient sciences, mathematics, astronomy, metallurgy (the Delhi iron pillar that never rusts), and so on and they realise that they are looking at a formidable, very ancient civilisation that is still alive and well and which can still overtake them in a matter of another five decades. India and Hinduism have a depth that their religion and culture can never hope to match.

In contrast to Hindus, most achievements of Western civilisation are not more than 200 years old. This gives rise to an intense hatred and a wish to destroy and burn everything related to Hinduism to the ground. Hinduphobia is the result. This is nothing new. All inferior civlisations (though temporarily militarily powerful) have this urge when they come face to face with an ancient but highly evolved civlisation. This is how Afghans felt when Mohammad Ghuri invaded India from the poverty stricken barren land of Afghanistan. The Westerners of today, like the Afghans of 1000 year ago, find themselves in the same position -- being militarily powerful over India but intellectually and civlisationally much inferior. (This is the "bully v/s the nerd" paradigm.) All the wealth of the white man acquired in the last two centuries doesn't hide the fact that their civilisation is only skin deep and is already falling apart.

In American academia and power elite, Hindu phobia is now reaching the same intensity as phobia of Jews before the second world war. All these lies and spins about caste, Brahmin supremacy (when Brahmins have always been barred from holding political power in ancient and medieval India), projecting Hindus as fundamentalist barbarians (over-emphasis on sati, female infanticide and abortions, dowry, bride burning, etc.) and never mentioning our civilisational achievements are due to the Hindu phobia of Americans.

We have to be very careful and keep American intellectuals and power elite at bay and not allow them to infiltrate our academia and national space, because they carry an intense hatred of Hindus and Hinduism just under their skin and their objective is our destruction. They are united soldiers of White civilisation and we have to be on our guard.

The American power elite and church still remember the 'Hare Krishna, Hare Rama' hippie days of the sixties very well and their teenagers flocking to Goa and Rishikesh. At no cost do they want their youth to get exposed to hindu spiritual literature again. All this deliberate misportrayal of Hinduism and Hindu civilisation is just a pre-emptive move to keep their youth away from the wealth of our culture, especially its intellectual output over the ages. But try as hard as they can, new challenges of Hinduism infiltratng their civilisation keep cropping up for them. These days they are grappling with the wild popularity of Yoga and the trend of White Yogis adopting Sanskrit names and teaching Yoga Sutras to lay people.

This link will show you the fear White Christian elite people have of Hinduism swamping their civilisation:

http://www.amazon.com/Hinduism-Invades- ... 0766180131

Here is a good article by Rajiv Malhotra on Hindu-phobia in American academia and press.

http://rajivmalhotra.sulekha.com/blog/p ... phobia.htm

Here is another article:

Exposing Academic Hinduphobia
http://www.boloji.com/bookreviews/124.htm

Even Wikipedia has a page on Hindu Phobia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduphobia

To understand the real effect our spiritual literature has on the Whites, you have to read what the American intellectuals had to say in mid 19th century when first English translations of Gita, Vedas and Upanishads became available in America.
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#138 Posted by satya100 on September 9, 2008 10:21:56 pm
Murarilal G,

I am really interested in studying molding of the weak SahajRam mind into plate shitting Allaha Ki Maa. What is in this Shantik Pustika (aka Koran) that makes people disown their own language, culture, ancestry, community feeling or belonging to becoming a slave to distant alien culture, language and race. To make this study little more interesting and money earning I thought we can come up with the script for a nice serial or film. Did you like the name - Durbari Shantic (aka Islamic) gandu Bhi Kabhi Hindu The.

Short DSGBKHT.
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#137 Posted by satya100 on September 9, 2008 10:07:12 pm
Namaskar Murarilal G,

New biz card is not yet ready? How is the reading and searching for Rishis and Mutts around Gomati going on? Please let us know what you found in your search. Have you heard about Rishi Madvya? History is Itihaas and Puran for us. We do not care for the dates and the color of langots or length of the moonch of the people involved. What matters is the subtle essence which drives the personalities and make certain event happen. Swami murdered in cold blood because of alien concept of religion and dividing people so that they can be enslaved is more important fact rather than the year of making the AK47 and the ancestry of the enslaved Paulian or Shantic (aka Islamic) kid. They are just the pawns in the hands of devilish ideologies of Abrahmic religion.

I would listen to you if you start owning your roots and celebrate it by changing your and your kids names to Indic/Sanskrit ones. Otherwise you are yet another Shantic aka Islamic gandu who has nothing better offer to this world, India in particular.
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#136 Posted by satya100 on September 8, 2008 10:20:13 pm
btw i know this guy maxwell, he is a paid g..du (G). There is zammen aur asman ka farak between Riberro and this G.
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#135 Posted by satya100 on September 8, 2008 10:17:32 pm
Murarilal G and Testicula G,

Here are few proposals you Murarilal G could give publicity among your JNU, Doon and other such durbari G crowd.

1. Ban expression of religions and castes in public area.
2. Nationalize saints and festivals of India.
3 Ban on birthdays of aliens such as Mohamed, Jesus and Queen Elizabeth.
4. Money donated and collected by different charities need to be put in one common account and spent on per capita basis for making the body healthy, cultured broad mind and growth in consciousness. This money neeed to be used to create community centers where Yoga, Dhyan, Math Competitions, Science fairs, Athletics, martial arts and other competions and training will be held. This community center will also work as library and internet cafe.
With this money small grass root cooperatives to give helping hand to the poorest of the poor and to bring the community close will be started and helped to grow.

Murarilal G now would you first take the plunge and first own your roots and officially change your name to Murarilal Lakhanpurkar from alien Murad Baig. I will discuss further with you if you do this first. There are lot of testicula G types who have sold their mothers to the highest bidders and they think that they can preach just because they have photoes of Lenin's goaty and Queen Elizabeth's Zanty. Murarilal I think you are different. Soooo I would respond to you if you post your new biz card with new name Murarilal Lakhanpurkar BA (Hon)

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#134 Posted by satya100 on September 8, 2008 9:52:38 pm
Murarilal Lakhanpurkar G and testicular G,


Here is a deal I would discuss with you if you collaborate on film/tele-serial script which does psycho analysis and documents making of durbari superG Allaha Ki Maa from Sahaj Ram Sapru G. You probably are paid to spread sh.t on this ezine.

About riots the truth is this:
"On 23 December 2007, Chrisitians of Brahmanigoan village tried to erect a gate in front of a hindu place of worship. This incident led to clashes between Christian and Hindu communities. Swami Lakshamananda, who visited the site, was attacked by a group of unidentified gunmen. This led to further clashes between Kondh tribals and Christians."

Now concrete proposals. YES to spirituality but big NO to dividing communities and counties using devillish concept of Abrahmic legions. Give us Yogi Yeshu, Rumi and Khalil Gibrans but do not destroy our language, the history of heroes who fought british in 1800s (yes! the tribals who are in news for violence gave a valient fight against British and before that Muslim invaders). The spiritual thought you give us need to be empowering and not enslaving to your language, places of worship, concept of superiority of your race and place of worship such as Mecca-Madina and Palestine. Finally Hindus need not listen about secularism and tolerance from Abrahmic faith people ie you two Gs. First look our own ugly face and nakedness in the mirror before pointing our open fly.
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#133 Posted by muradbaig on September 8, 2008 8:09:27 pm
Re: # 132
Lets not mock any extremist but try to see things with reason. The Taliram's of the VHP may be just as bad as the Taliban but the issue is the horror of hatred and violence. Is it a fact as Maxwell Pariera writes that the followers of the revered swami violently attacked Christians on christmas eve long before he and his followers were gunned down. I do not consider revenge as a justification but why was there this pogram against Christian tribals. This is not the tradition of gentle and dharmic Hinduism

I thought some of you might also comment on my interact no 120 challenging the sanctity of all scriptures.
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#132 Posted by tahmed32 on September 8, 2008 4:41:43 am
#131 muradbaig: you dont reason with a hindu monkeyman. you just watch him do the monkeydance, and applaud (kind of) when he starts singing "Ban all abrahamic religions". ;-)
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#131 Posted by muradbaig on September 8, 2008 3:27:43 am
Re: # 122

Satya100. Please do not revert to that old trick of trying to shoot the messenger. I gave you a quote from Maxwell Pariera (IG Police)without any comment or qualification. I cannot confirm or deny if he is right or wrong but if you are in Orissa perhaps you can add some factual substance to the subject. My only request... instead of accusations and justifications please try to help us out of this terrible circle of hatred and violence.
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#130 Posted by satya100 on September 7, 2008 10:30:07 pm
No takers for Shantic Durbari G Bhi Kabhi Hindu The serial. We could sell the script to Ekta Kapur and I will make sure that you make millions before I make a dime.

OK! My Time is up! NKG/Ladduji/Pinkuji/Sanataniji
What? I am little disappointed.
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#129 Posted by satya100 on September 7, 2008 10:26:22 pm
"The district committee of the Maoists has 22 members, 70 per cent of whom are Christians. Though close links have existed between the Maoists and the Christians, the radical Left has so far never intervened in religious matters.

The first reports of Christians taking up weapons surfaced in December last year

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During the backlash, in Brahmanigaon, villagers said they were shot at allegedly by Pano Christians from neighbouring villages.

"Panos are the real culprits. They come from the next village," one of the village woman had said.

During a house-to-house search the police found 20 guns and ammunition were found in Christian homes in Sikaram village, close to Brahmanigaon.

Security analysts believe that repeated provocation by the Sangh Parivar through fiery speeches and rallies demanding that conversions must stop have forced the Christians to retaliate.

( poor dears, they couldnt shout slogans of their own
and just had to retaliate )


In July this year, following clashes over cow slaughter, former MP Nakul Nayak, a Pano Christian, warned action will be taken against Swami Lakhananda if the administration did not take action within 10 days.

Top police sources who have been monitoring the security situation in Kandhmal said this time the Christians were prepared especially in areas where they dominate.

Digi, a Hindu village, is still smouldering. Days after saffron gangs attacked nearby Pano villages, armed men came after midnight, attacked villagers there and set fire to shops and houses. The sarpanch was brutally assaulted, his hands and legs cut by swords.

"They have had fights before they have even threatened us. But for the first time Christians have picked up arms," said one villager.

The church denies this.

"It is a lie. The church never supports violence. We want peace. We want development. We would never condone violence," said the Archbishop.

( religion of love becoming religion of peace )

A number of conservative para-church organisations and new churches are involved in a 'numbers' game and conversion and contribute to undoing the good work done by the Roman Catholics and Protestants in the areas of health, education and development. When there is a backlash, all Christians irrespective of whether they are involved in militant forms of mission or not become fair game for Hindu militants," said Pradip Ninan Thomas.

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#128 Posted by satya100 on September 7, 2008 10:21:51 pm
It was not Maoist who did the murder but the EvanJihadists. Its convenient to put blame on Maoists. It's different story that both Maoists and EvanJihadists are coming together.

In this murder 100 or so people were involved. They were disorganized and generally aMaoists are much organized and disciploined. Maoists wuld not come in such large number. The guys who carried the AK47s seemed not commanders of Maoists. Thus it was done by EvanJihadists.
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#127 Posted by satya100 on September 7, 2008 10:17:18 pm
B.RAMAN

Every Indian, who wishes to see India grow in unity, strength and prosperity, will be concerned over the implications of the emergence of a growing Hindu-Christian divide in the Indian civil society.

2. The recent shocking incidents of violence in some parts of the State of Orissa have brought home to us the extent to which the poison inthe relations between the two communities has spread. What one saw in Orissa was nothing less than a mini version of what one saw in Gujarat in 2002.

3. In Gujarat, the massacre of a group of Hindu pilgrims travelling in a railway compartment by a group of Muslim fanatics when the train had stopped at a railway station called Godhra, led to widespread retaliatory attacks on members of the Muslim community in different partsof the State. The brutal violence witnessed during these incidents committed initially by the Muslims and subsequently by the Hindus should be a matter of shame to us as a nation.

4. In Orissa, the brutal murder of a highly-respected leader of the Hindu community belonging to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) by a groupof suspected Christian elements led to widespread attacks by members of the Hindu community----most of them allegedly belonging to the VHP--- on the Christan community. The casualties in Orissa were thankfully small as compared to those in Gujarat in 2002, but the brutality witnessed on both sides----initially by alleged Christian elements and subsequently by alleged VHP members--- was no less disturbing than what one had seen in Gujarat in 2002.

5. The seeds of the Hindu-Muslim divide were initially sown by the British during the pre-1947 colonial days. It resulted in the creation ofPakistan and the subsequent violent incidents between the Hindu and Muslim communities in different parts of India. The jihadi terrorism witnessed in different parts of India since the demolition of the Babri Masjid by a group of Hindus in December,1992,marked a new phase in the continuing divide between some sections of the Hindus and the Muslims. Forunately, this mental divide remained confined to small sections of the two communities. The two communities as a whole have till now not allowed the attempts of these small sections to spread this poison further to succeed. One of the objectives of the repeated jihadi terrorist strikes is to aggravate this divide.

6. The seeds of the Hindu-Christian divide were sown much later---long after India became independent. Even in the 1950s and the 1960s,there were concerns over the objectionable activities of foreign Christian missionaries in Indian territory. These activities perceived as objectionable not only by large sections of the Hindu community, but also by the intelligence and security agencies and by highly-respected leaders such as Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi consisted of attempts to indulge in large -scale conversion of underprivileged Hindus and animist tribals in Central India into Christianity with the help of large, unrestricted flow of funds from the Vatican and from Catholic and Baptist organisations in the US and the role played by foreign missionaries such as the late Rev.Michael Scot in instigating the insurgency in the North-East where many of the inhabitants in Nagaland and Mizoram are Baptists.

7. Just as the flow of money from so-called Muslim charity organisations in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Muslim countries sought to sustain and aggravate the divide between the Muslims and the Hindus, projected as infidels, and to promote jihadi terrorism in Indian territory, the flow of money from the Vatican and Christian missionary and fundamentalist organisations in the West tended to create a mental divide between the Hindus and the Christians and promote and sustain the insurgency in our North-East.

8. But the leaders of India in the post-independence years sought to see that the concerns over the role of the foreign Christian missionaries and the massive funds at their disposal did not create unwarranted suspicions in the minds of the Hindu community against their Christian fellow-citizens. They realised that if they allowed such suspicions to appear in the relations between the two communities, they would only be playing into the hands of foreign missionary organisations, which wanted to create a mental divide. They refrained from viewing our Christian fellow-citizens as surrogates of the foreign missionary organisations.

9. This conscious attempt not to allow suspicions about foreign Christian missionary organisations create prejudices in our mind about our Christian fellow-citizens started disappearing after the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) led coalition came to power in Delhi in 1998. For thefirst time, there was a greater aggressiveness and less sensitivity in the interactions between the Christian organisations----foreign as well as indigenous-- and Hindu organisations such as the VHP. It would be incorrect to blame the Government of A.B.Vajpayee for this development. No Government policy directly encouraged this development. But the silence of the Government in the face of an aggressive campaign against certain aspects of the activities of Christian organisations and against certain elements of the Christian community by the VHP indirectly led to the emergence of the first signs of a mental divide between the two communities. I was myself a witness to this post-1998 aggressive anti-Christian campaign by the VHP on some occasions.

10. This aggressive campaign by the VHP led to an equally aggressive counter-campaign by some of the indigenous Christian organisations against the VHP and those associated with it, directly or indirectly. Some members of the community of Indian origin in the US---Hindus as well as Christians--- joined this campaign, with the Hindus in the US supporting the VHP and the Christians of Indian origin in the US supporting anti-VHP organisations.

11. From an anti-conversion campaign, which in my view is justified if peaceful and in accordance with law, it took on additional dimensions of a disturbing nature. One such dimension was anti-Vatican. Sonia Gandhi, who before 1998 was projected as of Italian origin and hence unsuitable to be the Prime Minister of India, was post-1998 sought to be projected as a Roman Catholic with suspected ties to the Vatican.She was projected as the source of the greater aggressiveness exhibited by the Christian organisations. There was a discernible attempt to merge the anti-Christian and the anti-Sonia campaigns.

12. This aggression and counter-aggression, rhetoric and counter-rhetoric totally lacking in a sense of balance between the VHP on the one side and some Christian organisations on the other threaten to create fresh pockets of social and religious disharmony in the already fragile Indian society. If India is to take its place as an important power in the world and as the equal, if not the better, of China, it is important for all right-thinking people----whatever be their religion or language or political background--- to come together to strongly oppose these new divisive trends in our society and nation.

13. The Hindus constitute the preponderant majority of this nation with 80 per cent of the population. India is their homeland and they have every right to protect their interests and to safeguard the essentially Hindu nature of this country. They have a right to have organisations such as the VHP to help them in doing so. At the same time, they have an important responsibility to carry out their activities in a peaceful manner in such a way as not to add to the divisions in our society. We have to find ways of making the interests of different religious groups and communities compatible with each other and not antagonistic to each other.

14. The way the VHP and the Christian organisations determined to oppose it are carrying on their activities is threatening to create more pockets of mutual antagonism than pockets of unity and harmony. This is not good for India.(3-9-08)
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#126 Posted by satya100 on September 7, 2008 10:07:20 pm
"Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati , who has been spearheading the anti-conversion movement in Kandhamal district in Orissa, was killed with four other inmates of Jaleshpata Ashram, where Swami Laxmanananda was staying. Swami Laxmanananda was 80.
The suspected assailants equipped with grenades and guns attacked the Ashram at 9 PM and fired shots lobbed grenades indiscriminately. The limited police staff at the Ashram could not counter them. According to eye-witness sources, over 100 people attacked the Ashram. Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati has been working against alleged forcible conversion by Christian missionaries and cow-slaughter. He had survived a murderous attempt on his life in December 2007. His disciples were also attacked by the Christian goons in the past.
Kandhamal district had seen a communal flare up several times in the past. Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati was always on hit list of anti-social elements and Maoists who were accused of triggering the communal riots in Kandhamal sometimes ago. Ironically, Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati had received a threatening letter 24 hours before his death. The letter threatened to eliminate him if he did not stop working against Christian missionaries.
If at all anyone has seen the murdered photo of Swamiji cannot belive how brutal it was it has een chopped in pieces, private parts of Mataji is chopped....(hope no more explanation is required)
so its understood who must be the killer and should be ready to face..
This is the position of a Hindu in a place so called Hindustan really pitty"
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