Dr Afia Siddiqui's Case

Sadiq saab,

Good that you want an enquirey. But the military men who pocketed the money on her head given by the yanks will not want to return it.

Do not pretend to be a rip van winkle, you know pakistan, and they will do anything for money. They created the jihadis for money, now they are killing their own for money. What si teh big deal about one woman when thousands are being slaugtered by the muslim soldiers in FATA.

Have some sense of realism. Do you want an enquiry into FATA killings as well. Or do you mean that killings by the yanks are bad, the good paki muslim soldiers are OK.

Grow up, and face the reality of pakistan.

Aafia Siddiqui’s husband in Guantanamo
Monday, September 08, 2008

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: Ammar Al Balochi, who, all accounts suggest, is Dr Aafia Siddiqui’s second and current husband, is in Guantanamo, facing trial by a military tribunal on terrorism-related charges.
There were six Pakistanis left at the United Sataes detention facility, one of whom, Qari Muhammad Saeed Iqbal, was repatriated to Pakistan recently and is now undergoing debriefing by the authorities at home. The other four still have to get their fate decided. Their names are, Majid Khan, a taxi driver from Baltimore, Abdul Rabbani, Ahmed Ghulam Rabbani and Saifullah Paracha.
An eight-member delegation of Pakistani senators led by Mushahid Hussain is expected to arrive here at the end of this month for a short visit to Guantanamo.
US authorities do not permit anyone to meet or even see the detainees. All the visitors are shown are some of the prisons where these men are being kept, as well as kitchens and medical facilities. However, they are briefed by officials in charge of the vast prison built from scratch after the first prisoners were brought here from Afghanistan and elsewhere following the invasion of Afghanistan in the aftermath of 9/11.

Re: # 2

hmmm .... may be "something IS rotten in the state of Denmark" ??!

Why don't put pressure on your local MP's and send official delegates to US to talk to the right people? what's the point spreading anger and frustration and encouraging extremism?! Innocent always suffer in Pakistan, most of the time by Pakistanis and sometimes by their closest ally USA. Not suggesting that Dr Afia is innocent as only a fair trial can prove that.

..... the chinese have the right approach to dealing with terrorists like ms aafia ...... last week they hung three jihadis accused of being part of the bombing a couple of days before the olympics .... then they posted their pictures with crosses across their faces .... they have arrested another fifty or so islamists and i am sure they will be dispatched to heaven to play with virgins ..... chinastan is being nipped in the bus as it should be .....

.... ms aafis should have been dealt with within weeks of her capture ....hopefully she will not be let off like the girls of jamia hafsa to go on and breed suiciders and homiciders that will grow up to kill innocent people .....

#5
hamidm2, you are equal opportunity offender. I like it.

Let call spade a spade. Stupidity, ignorance and superstitions do not recognize regional, political and religious boundaries

Re: # 5

one extreme to another :)
but its good that all the voices are heard.

here is how you fight terrorism :

BEIJING — Local governments in a Muslim desert region in western China have imposed strict limits on religious practices during the traditional Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which began last week, according to the Web sites of four of those governments.

The rules include prohibiting women from wearing veils and men from growing beards, as well as barring government officials from observing Ramadan. One town, Yingmaili, requires that local officials check up on mosques at least twice a week during Ramadan.

# 8 here is how you fight terrorism
Ramadan Curbs Imposed in China
New York Times September 9, 2008

By Edward Wong

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/world/asia/09china.html?hp

#9 hamidm: as the prophet said "Educate yourself by going to China if necessary". :-)

Mike: ramzan is fasting, and that has been around centuries before 9/11. So...sruprise..fasting does not cause terrorism (which christians do too). or are you saying that it is OK for China to curb all forms of religious expression (including Christianity)?

#11 Posted by tahmed32

I posted the NYT link regarding Chinese practice of suppressing religious freedom of Uighur Muslims in name of fighting terrorism to give Chowk readers opportunity to read the whole article. I think Chinese state terrorism against religious/ethic minorities will create more real religious terrorist. Chinese communists have been suppressing Tibetans, Christian, Muslims and many other groups which pose real or imaginary threat to their power.

I post links/article only from mainstream US and Pakistan media. I never post links/articles from hate sites. I do not participate in religious/ethnic name calling and insults.
I know the holy month of Ramadan is period of peace, reflection and giving. Happy Ramadan and peace to mankind.

Re: # 10; tahmed sahib
[[as the prophet said "Educate yourself by going to China if necessary".]]

Well said tahmed. and I agree with hamidm sahib on this too; this is the only solution for this menace. The level of appeasement and 'political correctness' has gone out of the way in the west to 'accommodate' the sensitivities of these morons and a complete u-tern on that is immediately required. Same goes for the 'tribals' in Pakistan. All through Pakistani history, they have been allowed to have their own "freedom" within the constitution; they are a "part of Pakistan, yet not" ... at the same time! This simply is unsustainable unless we grant them complete "independence"! No half-hearted measures .... this nuissance needs to be eliminated with a great deal of urgency for the whole country to move forward. No apologies, no pre-conditions, no settlements ...swift "justice" that they so seem to crave!

We need another Hafiz Asad in the Islamic world!

Mike #11 I tried using that link, but it seems to have a problem. So thanks for summarizing it.

No doubt that religion (any religion) is not subject to curbs in China that are in sharp contrast to the freedom to practice religion within the limit of the law in the US and UK. However, it does not necessarily follow that this suppression will create real terrorist threats as you think (e.g. case of Turkey's banning of hijab in government jobs), just as the reverse is not true either (e.g. abuse of religious freedoms in UK by clerics resulting in terrorist acts by their "students").

The fact is that God does not need mosques or churches - priests do, since this is their "office". God does not need prayer (since he needs neither flattery nor advice on how to do his job), priests and mullahs do do. God does not have a need to divide people into different religious groups (and this respect for all religions, and appeals to mankind to not get into arguments over religious matters, is mentioned on several occassions in the Quran), but priests and mullahs do.

So - per the quote from the prophet muhammed below, keep an eye on what the Chinese are doing when they curb forms of religious expression that are driven less by peity than by priestly ambitions. They may be on to something.

Thanks for the good wishes on ramzan. And may peace be upon you as well.

Cheema sahib #13 Greetings. I think we are in agreement on this important point (and my post #14 below) describes more fully where I am coming from on this very relevant quote from the prophet muhammed himself.

The only place I disagree with your post is on Hafiz Asad - the fact that he killed thousands of Syrians should be a red flag that he was doing something wrong, not that he was doing something right. Despite their superficial differences, the fact is that religious terrorists and "secular" dictators are both driven by the same goal - namely, to gain political control for themselves.

Re: # 15; tahmed sahib

"political Islam" as we know it, and "Ikhwaan-ul-muslimoon" in particular have been completely impotent and basically all but dead in Syria since the 1980s .... big achievement I reckon!

Unfortunately, One can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs!

Take care for now sir