US Commando Strike in Waziristan

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and what our Army was doing? when Kafirs were attacking on our mother land? or they already decided to sell our mother land?
God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can and the Wisdom to know the difference.

Re: # 66
Ahmed...
The basic purpose of USA is to keep its bases in Central Asia. It may be through Turkey,Iraq, Pakistan or somewhere else. So, if USA sees no effective co-operation from Pakistan, they will definitely not hesitate to take the destructive path. That will create trouble for Pakistan.
Now, for this GWOT, USA/NATO invested so much in Pakistan, and still they see Taliban sneaking from Pakistan into Afg, what action do you expect from NATO forces?

Re: # 64 I donot understand military things.
But it appears Kayani and President. Z axis is flexing muscles and will extract and more dollars and arms and war making equipment from usa. They know clearly that America is more in troubles due to problems in Pakistan. America is like big banker. They have invested so much money to keep supply lines humming so war machine is fueled and lubricated. Now economic problems of pakistan are more important to USA and they will be forced to help and international Finance organization , KSA, China will as act as locomotive and pull out economy. Hopefully this is beginning of not aggressive but assertive way of nation to regain its footing with respect to USA .

Re: # 64 I donot understand military things.
But it appears Kayani and President. Z axis is flexing muscles and will extract and more dollars and arms and war making equipment from usa. They know clearly that America is more in troubles due to problems in Pakistan. America is like big banker. They have invested so much money to keep supply lines humming so war machine is fueled and lubricated. Now economic problems of pakistan are more important to USA and they will be forced to help and international Finance organization , KSA, China will as act as locomotive and pull out economy. Hopefully this is beginning of not aggressive but assertive way of nation to regain its footing with respect to USA .

Re: # 62
Ahmed...

You should not blame leaders alone...
Can you stop Pakistanis feeling negative agenda against India and live peacefully? no. It is not induced by leaders. It is the Paki Abduls and Muhammeds have to decide.

Can you survive without NATO aid and NATO assistance?
Most probably not....

As per my understanding, USA has no enemity with Pakistan ( they were mostly Russia centric and now China centric). If you behave properly, you will gain, rather loose...

Re: # 59
ahmed...
Yes sir, USA is using Paki land for transporting equipment to Afg... But they are very lenient to Pakistan too. Without using Pakiland, they can destroy these areas trough missiles and arial attacks from US based super-carriers. But that will be devastating for Pakistan. Do, you feel the threat of turning back the clock from 6th century arab to stone age had no substance in it? How the initial attack on Taliban started?...
What do you want? NATO forces to use more powerful bombs from USS Nimitz or small raids using Apache?

Re: # 61 Major you have studied and concluded correctly.
More loyal and royals.
Once after Russian revolution a communist leaders said, it was not difficult to take care of landlords but peasants were hard nuts to crack still lingering to old ways and fedual ways. Some times It comes to my mind when you use new shoes they make noise initially, even dead animal shows anger and compalins even dead , americans are stean rolling and insulting and our national leaders do not even make is noise. There is more mental slavery than physical. Hopefully even with lost cause this is first sign of diffiance. Hope for more balanced ways. Good day.

in logon main itna hausla nahin hai madani sahib , these feudals were the procurors of british and the muslims of punjab and pashtun settled areas were the most reliable mercenaries of english east india company and brits till 1947 and in case of pakistan till now

it is fiction to state that the sikhs conquered afghanistan....they did capture afghan territories east of khyber pass....their western limit of advance was mardan jamrud bannu rakhni line....yes a Muslim sikh force invaded afghanistan in first afghan war to support shah shuja as part of tripartite agreement , but thee is a difference between invasion and capturing , kabul off course was captured in 1839 by an East India Company force

Kayani telling Americans silently to stop invading and killing pakistanis. Otherwise no fueling of american machine. The life line of American forces is path from karachi to Afghanistan. We may suffer due to no payment for not operating pipeline of logistic. But american forces will be without supplies.
Americans up to now took Pakistan for granted and gave damn. Now they will know better. American govt official will be dropping to beg to start and refuel War machine.
They will understand like sex and air when you have sufficient it is of no importance but without that you are miserable and die. Kayani is taking american army bosses to school and lessons in Humility. Very Ironic. I think Son in Law of ZAB is screwing americans and giving lessons. The
entry of president is dramatic thrashing American war machine.

Re: # 40
Majumder....
Sikhs have conquered Afghanistan. Asoka's empire do spanned upto Gandhar. The matter is, who wants to own such area, where people are barbaric and non-productive. If you attack Afghans in Afghanistan, then you are in disadvantegous position. You can watch the movie Beast of War.
Now the same Afghans attack India through plains, will definiteltely loose the battle.
About your 6ft stuff, I don't think that matters at all. Vietcong guerilas thrashed US marines. Gurkhas are mostly bellow 6ft, but best fighters...

Hamid....
Let the Jihadis handle USA first. I don't think USA treats ordinary Pakistanis in different light than that of extreame Jihadis in North West Pakistan. Red Mosque and the gunny sack covering, 6th century beduine female clones were housed the capital city of Ialamabad (perfect name of a place to host such institution). Your Pakistani media showed that. Any Paki origin named after your "holy prophet" is strip searched in all the international airports of USA. Nice tribute to Pakis. Some reflection of that in the Gallup polls.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/102640/Americans-Attitudes-Toward-Pakistan- Largely-Negative.aspx

It is not the matter of NWFP/Tribals alone. It is something different.....

Your utopian scheme, in all probability, will not work (attacking India). Do you think this SU30-MKI ( Fighter) + Tu22M3 (Bomber) will produce different result than that of F-15E Strike Eagle ( Fighter) + B1 Lancer ( Bomber) ? Most probably not. What holds India back is 15 crore arab slaves inside India. If India can get rid of it, Pakistan will return back from 6th century Arab land to stone age. Whether China intervenes to prevent that, that needs to be observed.

Re: # 48

allah mian,

... that is why i have been advocating a war against india - that way we can move all these wild-eyed jihadis to kashmir and get them busy killing horrible hindoos instead of their fellow moslems ...... this way we can kill two birds with one stone and get rid of the bamboo so that we don't have to listen to the dang flute .......

.... i think i will write a letter to king zardari and his sipah-silar kiyani to see if they can move these poor bas*a*ds form bajaur to srinagar ....

Re: # 30

[[[ ...if pakistan becomes a part of this disaster, then, eventually, the usa is going to pack its bags, in defeat, like it is doing in iraq, and will leave....]]]


bulleya, I must say that you are one of the few people I have met who
have actually worked towards earning their sobriquet. I am back on
chowk after a long time - and its refreshing to know that you remain
as clueless as only you can be.

Re: # 47

[[[ #40 majumdar bhai: rest assured afghans are not 10 feet tall.

I can vouch for that - I used to play football with them as a kid in
Delhi. They were primarily refugees living around the Amar Colony/ Lajapat Nagar area.

Not only are they not 10 feet tall - they suck at football too !

... keeping the primitive horrible hindoos in check...

Hamid sir - the correct spelling is *primitive horrible hindus*