Agha Amin September 3, 2008
#101 Posted by peonofthewest on September 7, 2008 6:12:18 am
Re: # 100
Salam tahmeedi saab. the peon was banned again saab.
how are you saab?
Salam tahmeedi saab. the peon was banned again saab.
how are you saab?
#100 Posted by tahmed32 on September 7, 2008 6:09:39 am
bubba: and in the remainder of your post, all i see is more evidence that economics is not your forte. and simply parrotting meaningless republican-sounding slogans (" Wealth creation is an anathema for the democrats.") simply confirms what I wrote below that you ignore and simply claim to be wrong.
#99 Posted by tahmed32 on September 7, 2008 6:05:17 am
bubba #98 I will be pleased to stand corrected if you see anything wrong in what I said. Simply nodding your head in agreement says nothing about what I wrote, and simply reveals your own inability to deal with what I wrote to you below.
#98 Posted by bubba on September 7, 2008 5:51:58 am
Re: # 90 Posted by CreateAlpha on September 6, 2008 9:27:50 pm
alpha,
[..there is no difference between masadi and tahmed. Both are almost always wrong.] Agreed.
Regarding bailout, hamid mian's opinion is what the media is spouting and he has not as yet given his own insights. When Barney F. support is shown on anything, i have a tendency then to assume that once again, it is the democrats trying to stick it to the tax payers. as we all know that for democrats nothing is more important that sticking it to wealth. Wealth creation is an anathema for the democrats. No matter what is said, democrats turn it around against wealth. Even if you have a few measly dollars in the stock market, according to these democrats this is wealth and it must be tax at a huge rate. They are talking about raising capital gains tax from 15% to more than 35%. They never talk about raising the losses from 3,000 per year. We all know with such a stock market year they should increase the losses taken per year. But they won't.
Yes, for the most part, i do understand what preferred stacks are. If one has preferred stock on any other public company that goes belly up, then these stocks do get wiped out. Why should the tax payers support these preferred stock holders? In my opinion they should not.
I do understand that economic theory is circular logic. No matter what these pundits say, if we continue accepting there nonsense, then it eventually comes to the place that it started. One of the values that I like about Hillary Clinton is that she does not listen to economists.
And as for the rest of debt holding of (about $300B), the money is from countries that go to hell (as far as I am concerned). You see, china has offloaded their production crap on these soils for the last 30 years. They intentionally robbed good paying American jobs, etc., and they chose to invest in American real estate. It was there choice.
Now they are asking the tax payers of American to bail them out. It is the democratic congress that has given authority to the administration to go ahead and screw the tax payer. And I bet you; once again, barak obama and his democratic party will claim that it was the republican administration that has no love for American.
McCain on the other hand, does understand this economic fiasco. He loves his country first, and is waiting for the democrats to show their complete hand in this regard.
alpha,
[..there is no difference between masadi and tahmed. Both are almost always wrong.] Agreed.
Regarding bailout, hamid mian's opinion is what the media is spouting and he has not as yet given his own insights. When Barney F. support is shown on anything, i have a tendency then to assume that once again, it is the democrats trying to stick it to the tax payers. as we all know that for democrats nothing is more important that sticking it to wealth. Wealth creation is an anathema for the democrats. No matter what is said, democrats turn it around against wealth. Even if you have a few measly dollars in the stock market, according to these democrats this is wealth and it must be tax at a huge rate. They are talking about raising capital gains tax from 15% to more than 35%. They never talk about raising the losses from 3,000 per year. We all know with such a stock market year they should increase the losses taken per year. But they won't.
Yes, for the most part, i do understand what preferred stacks are. If one has preferred stock on any other public company that goes belly up, then these stocks do get wiped out. Why should the tax payers support these preferred stock holders? In my opinion they should not.
I do understand that economic theory is circular logic. No matter what these pundits say, if we continue accepting there nonsense, then it eventually comes to the place that it started. One of the values that I like about Hillary Clinton is that she does not listen to economists.
And as for the rest of debt holding of (about $300B), the money is from countries that go to hell (as far as I am concerned). You see, china has offloaded their production crap on these soils for the last 30 years. They intentionally robbed good paying American jobs, etc., and they chose to invest in American real estate. It was there choice.
Now they are asking the tax payers of American to bail them out. It is the democratic congress that has given authority to the administration to go ahead and screw the tax payer. And I bet you; once again, barak obama and his democratic party will claim that it was the republican administration that has no love for American.
McCain on the other hand, does understand this economic fiasco. He loves his country first, and is waiting for the democrats to show their complete hand in this regard.
#97 Posted by tahmed32 on September 7, 2008 4:38:55 am
i see the pandit-jay-thakeray has been discharged from the mental asylum.
#96 Posted by jayp on September 7, 2008 3:33:39 am
Many pakistanis are insulted by teh nato strike inside pakistan as a violation of paki sovereignty.
No one cares to mention that the forigners operating out of pakistan is also a violation. No one cares to mention that the very same people attacked by the nato troops are also being attacked by pak military and helicopter gunships.
Again no one cares to mention teh fact that in paki army attacks, no arb or foreigner gets killed. Why, because they are tipped of first, the arabs are supported by teh ISI. The us predator attacks always kills foreigners...why. Those attacks are not coordinated by the ISI, teh paki army attacks are and that si why no fpreigner gets killed.
Pak army attacks are part of pakistans political process, it has nothing to do with taliban or peopel who attack nato troops.
No one cares to mention that the forigners operating out of pakistan is also a violation. No one cares to mention that the very same people attacked by the nato troops are also being attacked by pak military and helicopter gunships.
Again no one cares to mention teh fact that in paki army attacks, no arb or foreigner gets killed. Why, because they are tipped of first, the arabs are supported by teh ISI. The us predator attacks always kills foreigners...why. Those attacks are not coordinated by the ISI, teh paki army attacks are and that si why no fpreigner gets killed.
Pak army attacks are part of pakistans political process, it has nothing to do with taliban or peopel who attack nato troops.
#95 Posted by jayp on September 7, 2008 3:28:45 am
Leaders of pakistan,
It was none other than the interior minister who said that supplies to nato troops through pakistan will be stopped. The poor man has no clue about the situation that pakistan is in, he is still dreaming about the ghouri days of islamic conquests and looting. Now pakistan is at the mecy of teh US for its very survival.
With the power cuts, smugling, crime and poverty, there is capital out flow and the economic future of pakistan is very bleak, so bleak that they are requesting indians to put in money.
If only the educated pakistanis of chowk care to teach the relity to their country men.
It was none other than the interior minister who said that supplies to nato troops through pakistan will be stopped. The poor man has no clue about the situation that pakistan is in, he is still dreaming about the ghouri days of islamic conquests and looting. Now pakistan is at the mecy of teh US for its very survival.
With the power cuts, smugling, crime and poverty, there is capital out flow and the economic future of pakistan is very bleak, so bleak that they are requesting indians to put in money.
If only the educated pakistanis of chowk care to teach the relity to their country men.
#94 Posted by muqaddam on September 7, 2008 2:03:48 am
The recent blockade by Pakistan of fuel being trucked in to Afghanistan for the coalition forces in retaliation of trans border raid, once again brings out the dilemma facing the Americans, how to deal with Pakistan. An Afghan recently described the coalition forces as a burning pajama, it hurts but if you take it out, you are naked. Pakistan must be that pajama for the Americans today. And the that pajama would have been cut and stitched by the military dominated foreign policy experts of Islamabad.
Its military created, trained, and armed the Pushtun Talibs, followed it up with the recognition of the Taliban regime, won a diplomatic victory when it convinced the clueless sheiks of Dubai and Saudia to also recognise it.
When Uncle Sam showed the danda after 9/11, the Commando General President put his tail between his legs and shamelessly joined the war against the very regime Pakistan had propped up. Uncle Sam put in a lot of dollars for their allegiance and what do they get in return for those billions? The Pakistani military is again upto playing a double game, show you are on the side of the Coalition but secretly arm the Talibs so they can keep the pot boiling in Afghanistan.
One does not understand how long the Americans are going to allow wool being pulled over their eyes.
Its military created, trained, and armed the Pushtun Talibs, followed it up with the recognition of the Taliban regime, won a diplomatic victory when it convinced the clueless sheiks of Dubai and Saudia to also recognise it.
When Uncle Sam showed the danda after 9/11, the Commando General President put his tail between his legs and shamelessly joined the war against the very regime Pakistan had propped up. Uncle Sam put in a lot of dollars for their allegiance and what do they get in return for those billions? The Pakistani military is again upto playing a double game, show you are on the side of the Coalition but secretly arm the Talibs so they can keep the pot boiling in Afghanistan.
One does not understand how long the Americans are going to allow wool being pulled over their eyes.
#93 Posted by rf786 on September 7, 2008 1:29:08 am
Re: # 91
ahmedmadani sahib
{Can anybody explain why Bilawal was not present while his sisters were with president for photo opportunity ?}
His poor taste in clothing? Getting too big for his shoes? Incoherent replies? Taking exams? He is after all just a kid? Take your pick.
ahmedmadani sahib
{Can anybody explain why Bilawal was not present while his sisters were with president for photo opportunity ?}
His poor taste in clothing? Getting too big for his shoes? Incoherent replies? Taking exams? He is after all just a kid? Take your pick.
#92 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 6, 2008 10:22:34 pm
Re: # 90 Mr. T and hamid it will be more helpful to talk about KSE, shares, bonds, saving schemes and interest rate and which stocks are good ( aadamjee related company is good , they are parsee gentlemen all others are chors).
Now even poor man in america has car and little house. Some incite from outside can be helpful. If american economy does down it really does not matter in pakistan.
Good day
Now even poor man in america has car and little house. Some incite from outside can be helpful. If american economy does down it really does not matter in pakistan.
Good day
#91 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 6, 2008 9:47:23 pm
Can anybody explain why Bilawal was not present while his sisters were with president for photo opportunity ?
#90 Posted by CreateAlpha on September 6, 2008 9:27:50 pm
And tahmed, the FED facilitated the sale of bear to jp morgan. It wasn't a bailout chuckie! It was an old school fire sale, a cramdown....jeez...there is no difference between masadi and tahmed. Both are almost always wrong.
#89 Posted by CreateAlpha on September 6, 2008 9:22:28 pm
Bubbie, that is because preferred stock has certain rights and is a senior security chanda. Before preferred stock gets paid out, fannie and freddie will have to deal with the covertible debt and before that the senior secured that fannie has. Sometimes I think that all you pakis are one tree short of a hammock. And tahmed, as usual is without both the trees and is holding his langot as the net. :)
#88 Posted by masadi on September 6, 2008 8:55:59 pm
Ahmad sahib have some shame, and have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
TNI Masadi
#86 Posted by tahmed32 on September 6, 2008 8:42:27 pm
bubba: while not wishing to spoil this little game of playing gora republican sahib of you and hamidm, rest assured your economics isnt even close to making any sense.
first - regardless of what your republican friends think, the US govt has, per news reports today, already finalized a bail out plan for fannie and freddie. as it did a few months ago with Bear Sterns. As it did (via imf) in the far east financial crisis. and btw fannie and freddie have $3 trillion in assets between then, not a mere $450 b. = 4% of $15 trillion that you think).
second - rest assured Obama may not be mistaken for a gora republican sahib like hamidm is when he gets overspeeding tickets, but he is not as clueless as you think. regardless of what those clowns chanting "drill, baby, drill" like a bunch of maniacs at the RNC say. The same neo-con boys who turned the largest US surplus into the largest deficit. and even got suckered by the Iraq government into paying for $10 billion per month for their internal wars through this deficit, while letting Iraqis build up a surplus of $79 billion.
first - regardless of what your republican friends think, the US govt has, per news reports today, already finalized a bail out plan for fannie and freddie. as it did a few months ago with Bear Sterns. As it did (via imf) in the far east financial crisis. and btw fannie and freddie have $3 trillion in assets between then, not a mere $450 b. = 4% of $15 trillion that you think).
second - rest assured Obama may not be mistaken for a gora republican sahib like hamidm is when he gets overspeeding tickets, but he is not as clueless as you think. regardless of what those clowns chanting "drill, baby, drill" like a bunch of maniacs at the RNC say. The same neo-con boys who turned the largest US surplus into the largest deficit. and even got suckered by the Iraq government into paying for $10 billion per month for their internal wars through this deficit, while letting Iraqis build up a surplus of $79 billion.
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