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Pakistani-Americans or American-Pakistanis?

Feroz Qutabshahi September 26, 2008

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#185 Posted by dawa-i-dil on October 18, 2008 12:42:59 am
Is it our national character that we dont pay tribute ..acknowledge and even consider the 'Silent Heroes' for what they are doing for Pakistan and islamic world. We kept that Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan under seige who made aur defence unbeatable and gave us the most dangerous weapon of 1400 years.Media is so powerful today and 160 million people hear you daily.Why dont you not even mention this man who is the most genius man of the islamic world burning Cairo and Cordova flames after 1000 years...Your voice heard is whole Pakistan...not even a single column..not even a single news of this wonderful man what he is doing for Pakistan.He is so humble that he never show off for his work..but you people are the intellegencia..the intellectual core of Pakistan society...Your voice about him will be source of inspiration for thousands of curious science students of Pakistan.Look below what this man is doing for Pakistan and Ummah so silently !



Can anybody tell us.....

Whats in its body.....

blood...

or fire...

Bharkhti Aag nachhti hai is bandadai kee rago mai.....

in 2008...just in 7 months...this man...who is the General Secretary of Khwarzimic Science Society has arranged all this for students of Pakistan for Rs. 0.0

Apart from that ..he is one of the most genius man of the islamic world..as accepted by many people....a 26 year Doctrate from Oxford as Rhodes Scholar and Youngest PhD Advisor of Pakistan from HEC....,Pakistan leading Nanotechnologist and Quantum Computational expert.... the only Pakistani who got 779/850 in matriculation and just after that in just few months also gave O Level exams and got 9-A's, the Hall of Fame of Government College 78 years Debating History defeated the deabters of the whole world in an international debating contest...,worked on first Liquid State Quantum Computer of the World at Oxford,A former student of UET,Lahore,one and only Muhammad Sabieh Anwar



so anybody dares to compete him..and follow his footsteps...for what he is doing for Pakistan ..and islamic world.....


He is burning Cordova.. Cairo ,

Baghdad 's Flames after 1000 years...!


www.khwarzimic.org


Homepage of Sabieh Anwar Research Group:

http://ravi.lums.edu.pk/sabieh/




Abubakr Muhammad.....

His old time Crescent...Government College...UET..friend..Abubakr Muhammad...doing 3rd post doc at the age of 31 ...from McGIll...Abubakr..is also a visiting scientist ..of SSE,LUMS,Lahore....and Collaborator of Sabieh Anwar Research Group at SSE,LUMS,Lahore.He has completed 2 masters..1 PhD..2 Post Docs..in just 5 years..from Gerogia Tech..Pennsylvania...etc.....

http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~abubakar/index. html




MUHAMMAD SABIEH ANWAR

Look at this young man of "30" ..and see what he is doing for Pakistan !!

..His age..only 30 years ..and he has completed his Post Doc from University of California ..Berkeley....under world greatest NMR/MRI scientist Professor Alex Pines ...completed his PhD at 26 from Oxford Universiy.....as a Rhodes Scholar from Pakistan......got his Electrical Engineering from UET , Lahore.and got first position.......( 87%) ....broke the 10 years record of Goverment College,Lahore ..in FSc..by getting 961/1100 and got first position and over all fourth in Matriculations from Crescent Model School , Lahore getting 779/850 and also passed O Level Exams ..in just few months ..and got 9 A's...!!!!




He can get 5 or 6 lakh Rs / month ...means 60K $ per annum...while researching in US or be a part of any prestigious universty faculty....but ...look...he is serving his mother land..due to which ..he is now ..at this position ...he is presently working as a Assistant Professor.....at LUMS....SSE... Lahore ..Pakisatn....


Look at Sabieh Anwar picture...at Oxford .....white colour face..here...


and look at his picture ..when he just arrived at Berkeley, California ....dark colour ..and weak face....


http://qwiki.stanford.edu/wiki/Image:Sabieh1.jpg




Do you know the reason.....?????



This is because..in hot summer ..and months in Pakistan ...in 2004...he used to go to Pakistan top most educational institutions to teach the science and engineering students ...totally free..about the latest research going on in the world....on his motor cycle...


On his bike...in 45 Celsius.....from Punjab University ..to Goverment Collge...from UET..to COMSAT..from LUMS..to Quada-i-Azam ,University, Islamabad ...

He used to go Islambad ..3 days in a week...on Niazi Bus Service.. ..from Lahore and back to Lahore ....where he was giving lectures in Punjab University..UET..and GC etc etc...He could earn 6 lakh Rs ..easily with any world top most University in US or UK ....

but he was riding his Honda 70 ...on Lahore Roads ..in 45 Celsius ..to give this nation..and ummah..all...which he gained at Oxford and Berkeley . !!!!!

1000 runners , greedy..hawis parast doctors ..and professionals...members of AAPNA which have run from Pakistan ...for money..can be sacrifised on the boot toe of such a patriot..dedicated..selfless..and one of the top most science scholar of islamic world....for what he did for Pakistan and Ummah.....and still is doing....!!!!




School of Scienece and Engineering , SSE,LUMS, Lahore .

MUHAMMAD SABIEH ANWAR


Muhammad Sabieh Anwar completed his D.Phil. from the Department of Physics, Oxford University (UK) in 2004, where he studied as a Rhodes Scholar from Pakistan . His dissertation was titled, "Quantum Information Processing using Para-Hydrogen NMR" and revolved around the preparation of pure quantum states for quantum computing. This work also constituted the world first demonstration of quantum entanglement in the liquid state. Its the vbasic of world first liquid state quantum computer of the world.

His post-doctoral experience at the University of California , Berkeley ( USA ) involved the demonstration of hyperpolarized NMR using heterogeneous catalytic systems, microfluidic and "lab-on-a-chip" NMR, synthesis of precise magnetic fields for ex-situ NMR, algorithmic cooling, polarization lifetime studies and hypersensitive nanoparticle MRI. Prior to his doctoral studies Sabieh Anwar received his B.Sc. (Honours) degree in electrical engineering (electronics and communications) from the UET, Lahore .


Sabieh'scurrent research interests include quantum control, spin mechanisms in nanomagnetic materials and nanotechnology. His research has been published in the Physical Review Letters, A and B, Chemical Physics Letters, Analytical Chemistry, Journal of the American Chemical Society, Angewandte Chemie, Magnetic Resonance in Chemistry, Daltons Transactions and Modern Physics Letters B.

He has also taught at the

* Punjab University,

* UET (Lahore),

* National Centre for Physics ,Quada-i-Azam University (Islamabad)

* COMSATS Department of Physics (Islamabad) and has been an active speaker at many national and international physics / chemistry forums.

Dr. Sabieh is also the Joint Secretary and one of the founders of the Khwarzimic Science Society

http://www.khwarzimic.org-

a non-profit organization aiming at developing a science culture in Lahore 's educational institutions. This Association has organized about 150 events of different kinds with the objective of strengthening the popular image of the scientific content and method.




AWARDS

Dr. Sabieh is recipient of several awards including the Rhodes Scholarship (Rhodes Trust), G.A. Paul Scholarship ( University College , Oxford ), Aizaz-e-Sabqat (Government of Pakistan), Nishan-e-Haider Scholarship (GOP), Roll-of-Honour ( Government College , Lahore ) and gold medals from the Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education and Punjab Textbook Board.




WONDERS...

Khawarzimic science Society is a wonderful organization..anyone from any field ..and from any part of the world..can be its member.... Pakistan uper brains are its members...it was strted by Dr Sabieh and his father Dr Siddiqui ..in 1997 ..with only 2 or 3 memebers..and alhumdullilah ..now .its the biggest non profit pakistani based society...

When he was studying his D Phil..in Oxford as Rhodes Scholar..in vacation when he used to vist Pakistan ...he used to give totally free lectures to pakistan top most educational institutions like ....

* Punjab University ... Lahore
*UET.. Lahore
*FAST.. Lahore
* Government College ..Lahore
*Quada-i-Azam University Islamabad
* COMSAT ...Islamabad

about all which he was studying at Oxford....to keep pakistani students up to date with latest developments nano technology..and quantum computing....

All lectures were free...and large amout of young students benifited from them....

The Khawrzimic society also invited great scholars like Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy..and many other to its totally free public lectures....about new developments in science and physics...

after completing his PhD...He was previously teching ...in

* Quada-i-Azam University ...NCP(Natinal Centre of Physics).. Islamabad

* UET .. Lahore

* COMSAT


officaly..and privately gave some lectures ..in

* Government College Chemistry Department

*CASP(Centre for Advandced Studies in Physics) , Goverment College Lahore ...

* FAST NUCES University ...

* LUMS...

then after 6 months he went for his post doctoral in Berkeley ..under world top NMR(Nuclear Magnetic Resonance..an advanced form of MRI..Magnetic Resonance Imaging used extensively in medical field) ...Professor Alex Pines..of PINES LABS...


He also worked in LAWRENCE BERKELEY LAB there..a lab ..which is under US energy department mostly..and very few blessed students get a chance to work there...



Here is the link of Pines Labs....Profesor Alex Pines and his achievements...his students are wordly known as PINEUTS ...I think he is the only Pakistani may be first Muslim ..to be PINENUT...Here is a link of Professor Alex Pines

www.waugh.cchem.berkeley.edu





Flight...

All those who want to know about

Sabieh flight of thoughts ..

his aims ..

his goals ..

and his spellbound English

and purpose of his wonderful ..rather Pakistan most famous non profit science organization..just click on that....


http://www.khwarzimic.org/frontline/perspectives.pdf


http://w ww.khwarzimic.org/frontline/profile.pdf






Previous assignments


Post-doctoral physicist at the Department of Chemistry, University of California, Berkeley and the Materials Science Division, Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, Berkeley (I am an old Pinenut - member of Alex Pines's research group.)

Visiting research Associate, National Centre for Physics, Quaid-e-Azam University , Islamabad , Pakistan .


Visiting Assistant Professor, Department of Physics, COMSATS Institute of Information Technology, Islamabad .


Previous courses taught


"Quantum Computing" at Al-Khawarizimi Institute, University of Engineering and Technology, Lahore , Oct-Dec 2004.

"Quantum Computation and Information" at National Centre for Physics, Quaid-e-Azam University , Islamabad , Dec 2004.

"Modern Physics" (B.Sc.) at Department of Physics, Punjab University, Lahore 2004.

"Experimental quantum computing" at Department of Physics, COMSATS Institute of Information Technology , Islamabad .

"Photonics" (M.Sc.) at Department of Electrical Engineering, University of Engineering and Technology, Lahore 2004.



Active Research Themes:

algorithmic cooling of spin states and recyclable spin polarization

singlet lifetime enhancement

power of a single bit of quantum information in the context of NMR

efficient quantum state tomography with a given quorum of observables

geometric phases in magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)

quantum control using exponential product formulas

quantum computing with electron and nuclear spin states nanoparticle MRI

nanomagnetic spring exchange magnets




So who will follow him!!! Look below the wonders of Sabieh Anwar ,






Role of Nanomaterials in Drug delivery and Cancer at SSE, LUMS ,Lahore.
http://sse.lums.edu.pk/events_workshop_july28-29_2008.htm Seminar:


Seminar:
Biomaterials for Tissue Engineering
Speaker: Dr. Hassna R Ramay,, School of Science and Engineering, LUMS, Lahore
Venue: School of Biological Sciences, University of the Punjab, Lahore
Time and Date: 1/24/2008 (month/day/year)


Seminar:
New Directions for Climate Change and Development Policy
Speaker: Dr. John Gowdy, Department of Economics, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, USA
Venue: Institute of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, University of the Punjab, Lahore
Time and Date: 3/18/2008 (month/day/year)



Seminar:
Is reality really real?: From Albert Einstein to John Bell and beyond
Speaker: Dr. M. Suhail Zubairy, Institute for Quantum Studies, Texas A&M University, Texas, USA
Venue: University of the Punjab, Lahore
Time and Date: 5/5/2008 (month/day/year)
Seminar:


Seminar:
Quantum Computing: Myth or Reality?
Speaker: Dr. Muhammad Sabieh Anwar, School of Science and Engineering, LUMS, Lahore.
Venue: University of Management and Technology, 2S 43 South Block UMT, C-II Johar Town Lahore 54770
Time and Date: 7/15/2008 (month/day/year)
Seminar:



Seminar:
DNA Hybridization on Surfaces Seminar:
Understanding Cell Matrix Interactions: From Fundamental Thermodynamics to Applications in Tumor Metastasis
Speaker: Dr. Muhammad Hamid Zaman, The University of Texas at Austin, USA.
Venue: Institute of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, University of the Punjab, Lahore.
Time and Date: 8/5/2008 (month/day/year)



Seminar:
DNA Hybridization on Surfaces
Speaker: Fouzia Bano, SISSA International School of Advanced Studies, Trieste, Italy.
Venue: Centre for Solid State Physics, University of the Punjab, Lahore.
Time and Date: 7/28/2008 (month/day/year)





Events of 2007



Seminar:
Magnetic Resonance: From Brain Tissue to Chloroform Computers
Speaker: Dr. Sabieh Anwar, School of Science and Engineering, LUMS, Lahore
Venue: Institute of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, Punjab University, New (Quaid-e-Azam) Campus, PU, Lahore
Time and Date: 5/9/2007 (month/day/year)



Seminar:
From Galileo to Darwin: A Story of Science-Religion Interactions
Speaker: Dr. Salman Hameed, Assistant professor of Integrated Science & Humanities at Hampshire College, Massachussetts, United States
Venue: Aiwan-e-Iqbal, Egerton Road, Lahore
Time and Date: 7/14/2007 (month/day/year)



Workshop:
National Workshop on Crystal Structure Determination Using Powder X-ray Diffraction
Speaker: a) Dr. Falak Sher, Dr. N.M. Butt, c) Dr. Saadat A. Siddiqi, d) Dr. Sabieh Anwar, e) Dr. Arshad Bhatti, f) Dr. Umair Manzoor, g) Menges Goetz, Visit: http://www.khwarzimic.org/xrd for details and registration.
Venue: Centre for Solid State Physics, Punjab University, Quaid-e-Azam Campus, Lahore
Time and Date: 8/17/2007 (month/day/year




Symposium:
Science and Muslim Civilisation
Speaker: Prof. George Saliba (Columbia University), Prof. Noman-ul-Haque (LUMS) and Prof. Basit Bilal Koshul (LUMS),
Venue: Aiwan-e-Iqbal, Egerton Road, Lahore
Time and Date: 11/4/2007 (month/day/year)



Seminar:
The Shape of Space: M-Branes and 11-Dimensional Geometry
Speaker: Prof. Dr. Tasneem Zehra Husain, School of Science and Engineering, LUMS, Lahore
Venue: Department of Physics, Punjab University, Quaid-e-Azam (New) Campus, Lahore
Time and Date: 11/27/2007 (month/day/year)




And all is done by this man...of unbelieveable brain.... for his home country...Pakistan and Ummah... Muhammad Sabieh Anwar...
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#184 Posted by dawa-i-dil on October 2, 2008 3:42:09 am
this is the Auqat of 3rd class citizens...mummy daddy qaum..identityless..countryless US Pako blend...bieng naked on airports..but are so Baighairats taht they not raise voice for Dr. Afia....or Goitmo etc...


what can be/ ought to be done against this heinous act?



Daily Kos: State of the Nation


Muslim Children Gassed at Dayton Mosque After "Obsession" DVD Hits Ohio
by Chris Rodda
Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 08:50:29 PM PDT
(From the diaries -- kos)

On Friday, September 26, the end of a week in which thousands of copies of Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West -- the fear-mongering, anti-Muslim documentary being distributed by the millions in swing states via DVDs inserted in major newspapers and through the U.S. mail -- were distributed by mail in Ohio, a "chemical irritant" was sprayed through a window of the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton, where 300 people were gathered for a Ramadan prayer service. The room that the chemical was sprayed into was the room where babies and children were being kept while their mothers were engaged in prayers. This, apparently, is what the scare tactic political campaigning of John McCain's supporters has led to -- Americans perpetrating a terrorist attack against innocent children on American soil.

Chris Rodda's diary :: ::


I read the story as reported by the Dayton Daily News, but this was after I had received an email written by a friend of some of the victims of these American terrorists. The matter of fact news report in the Dayton paper didn't come close to conveying the horrific impact of this unthinkable act like the email I had just read, so I asked the email's author for permission to share what they had written. The author was with one of the families from the mosque -- a mother and two of the small children who were in the room that was gassed -- the day after the attack occurred.

"She told me that the gas was sprayed into the room where the babies and children were being kept while their mothers prayed together their Ramadan prayers. Panicked mothers ran for their babies, crying for their children so they could flee from the gas that was burning their eyes and throats and lungs. She grabbed her youngest in her arms and grabbed the hand of her other daughter, moving with the others to exit the building and the irritating substance there.

"The paramedic said the young one was in shock, and gave her oxygen to help her breathe. The child couldn't stop sobbing.

"This didn't happen in some far away place -- but right here in Dayton, and to my friends. Many of the Iraqi refugees were praying together at the Mosque Friday evening. People that I know and love.

"I am hurt and angry. I tell her this is NOT America. She tells me this is not Heaven or Hell -- there are good and bad people everywhere.

"She tells me that her daughters slept with her last night, the little one in her arms and sobbing throughout the night. She tells me she is afraid, and will never return to the mosque, and I wonder what kind of country is this where people have to fear attending their place of worship?

"The children come into the room, and tell me they want to leave America and return to Syria, where they had fled to from Iraq. They say they like me, ... , and other American friends -- but they are too afraid and want to leave. Should a 6 and 7 year old even have to contemplate the safety of their living situation?

"Did the anti-Muslim video circulating in the area have something to do with this incident, or is that just a bizarre coincidence? Who attacks women and children?

"What am I supposed to say to them? My words can't keep them safe from what is nothing less than terrorism, American style. Isn't losing loved ones, their homes, jobs, possessions and homeland enough? Is there no place where they can be safe?

"She didn't want me to leave her tonight, but it was after midnight, and I needed to get home and write this to my friends. Tell me -- tell me -- what am I supposed to say to them?"




When acting as a representative of Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), the 501(c)3 non-profit organization that I work for, I cannot engage in political activities. The distribution of Obsession, however, although a political campaign scheme, clearly crosses over into the mission of MRFF. So, I'm going to make two statements here -- one in my capacity as MRFF's Research Director, and another as an individual whose disgust at the vile campaign tactics of John McCain's supporters completely boiled over when I opened up the email about children being gassed.

My statement as MRFF's Research Director:

The presidential campaign edition of the Obsession DVD, currently being distributed by the Clarion Fund, carries the endorsement of the chair of the counter-terrorism department of the U.S. Naval War College, using the name and authority of an official U.S. military institution not only to validate an attack the religion of Islam, but to influence a political campaign. For these reasons, this endorsement has been included in MRFF's second lawsuit against the Department of Defense, which was filed on September 25 in the Federal District Court in Kansas.

My opinion as an individual and thoroughly appalled human being:

John McCain has a moral obligation to publicly censure the Clarion Fund, the organization that produced Obsession and is distributing the DVDs; to denounce the inflammatory, anti-Muslim message of Obsession; and to do everything in his power to stop any further campaign activities by his supporters that have the potential to incite violence.




Daily Kos: State of the Nation
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#183 Posted by masadi on October 1, 2008 6:28:20 pm
In other words even though both the parties are quite conservative, support for Israel does not translate as "conservative" in the traditional Republican (conserv)/Democrat (liberal (liberal my a$$)) divide...

Have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
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#182 Posted by masadi on October 1, 2008 6:18:20 pm
Arjun writes "
You are clueless as ever...Jews, as a group, are more liberal than the general population...

support for the war in iraq among jews was far lower than the general population..

but..as usual...you're an asshat."


Mian sahib, I think you should stick with your bot service on locating people's long lost posts. Where does "war in Iraq" and "support for Israel" match up, please explain other than some connection you have pulled out of Natanyahu's behind. Thank you kindly.

TNI Masadi
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#181 Posted by pinku on October 1, 2008 6:14:06 pm
Add #180 Posted by pinku on

I hope you made ARABIC numbers bold to get my attention???
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#180 Posted by pinku on October 1, 2008 6:12:10 pm
#174 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 30

Chauhan,



[[
Re: # 156
{"Salim...
Yes, I agree.... while talking to moslems, you have to use islamic mathematics.... "}

nkg,
Exactly! Now you know why they call them ALGEBRA (Al Jabr), Algorithm (Al Khwarizm), and ARABIC numbers. :)
]]
On this page


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_algebra

start reading this...

But wikipedia is not a great source only beginning so check what current mathematical history says..... those Arabs as usual copy pasted much fron those Hindu Brahmins.... Never rely on what Arabs did, you don't know what all they copy pasted from Hindus???

also check this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmagupta


Indian algebra
See also: Indian mathematics
The method known as "Modus Indorum" or the method of the Indians have become our algebra today. This algebra came along with the Hindu Number system to Arabia and then migrated to Europe. The earliest known Indian mathematical documents are dated to around the middle of the first millennium B.C.E (around the sixth century B.C.E.).[39]

The recurring themes in Indian mathematics are, among others, determinate and indeterminate linear and quadratic equations, simple mensuration, and Pythagorean triples.[40]
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#179 Posted by _arjun27 on October 1, 2008 3:15:41 am
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#178 Posted by masadi on September 30, 2008 1:07:48 pm
HP writes "Despite Bush and Republican’s enormous support to Israel, Republican Party still will not get majority Jewish vote in the US"

That is because the Democrats have historically been even greater supporters of Israel, Israel becomes a substantive non-issue in voting as a result. They can take this support and near uniform policy for granted...
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#177 Posted by viqarm on September 30, 2008 12:50:09 pm
Re: # 176
Gul sahib, where did you find this news? Is there a link?
Thanks.
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#176 Posted by ijaz_gul on September 30, 2008 12:39:06 pm
I mean Bait ullah Mehsud
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#175 Posted by ijaz_gul on September 30, 2008 12:38:32 pm
He died of kidney failure today. A setback to war on Pakistan's Reverse Front.
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#174 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 30, 2008 10:31:17 am
#169 Posted by nkg on September 30, 2008 1:11:17 am
Re: # 156
{"Salim...
Yes, I agree.... while talking to moslems, you have to use islamic mathematics.... "}

nkg,
Exactly! Now you know why they call them ALGEBRA (Al Jabr), Algorithm (Al Khwarizm), and ARABIC numbers. :)
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#173 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 30, 2008 10:29:56 am
HP #167 {"Wrong! Your failure is not recognizing the difference between lobbying in the name of a group/community and voting as block. Jews never vote as a block."}

HP,
You may be right about that. I shouldn't confuse lobbying politicians of every stripe with voting as a block. Jewish Americans have a way of intimidating even those politicians who know they are not going to get significant support from Jews.
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#172 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 30, 2008 10:28:05 am
#160 Posted by _arjun27 on September 29, 2008 2:57:58 pm
{"inbred retard: "}

Dear Arjun,
That's a good start, but you will have to be a lot more respectful if you want me to protect you from Atif. :)
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#171 Posted by _arjun27 on September 30, 2008 2:36:24 am
#170 Posted by bulleya on September 30, 2008 2:10:07 am


for example the usa recently attacked a pakistani school, killing 83 individuals


shoulda worn t-shirts with paki flags...
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#170 Posted by bulleya on September 30, 2008 2:10:07 am
anil #: "You are entitled to dismiss "others" because of their puny presence in NATO in Afghanistan, but please do not dismiss that act indeed demonstrate a viewpoint outside the U.S. that there is little tolerance for terror."

...i am neither dismissing anything, nor including anything...i am asking a very simple question.....who are the, "others" which keep getting included in analysis of all these wars, by american commentators....including you....

you have not answered the questions......no one is stating that anyone has tolerance for terror......but many, if not most of the others feel that the american actions of bombing and taking over countries is actually what is leading to this terror......

....the others, thus, in this gwot are not on the same page as the usa......

....similarly, you fail to address the issue of the defintion of terror.....for example the usa recently attacked a pakistani school, killing 83 individuals - 60 of whom were children under the age of 18........

this us terorrist action killed 30 more people than those killed in the terrorist attack on the marriott.....would you consider the us attack to be a bigger terrorist attack than the one on marriott or a smaller one?

......americans need to move beyond their own self-centered definitions of terorrism.....and start qualifying their own acts of terrorism under this cateoory also......

they also need to realize that the others tend to view us acts as terrorism also......

until the usa doens't do the above, i really cannot see how terrorism in the world can end.....because the other side will always be able to justify its acts under the light of us acts of terrorism......

based on this, the largest act of terrorism, so far, in pakistan has been carried out by the usa, in which it killed 83 innocent people.......the second largest act was carried out by taliban/al-qaeda in which 60 or so people were killed in wah (marriott would be in the same category).....

i am, however, amazed at how easily the usa govt. and the taliban leadership, both, simply gloss over the terrorism they carry out, and justiy it.........

in both cases, innocent pakistanis were the victims......hence if you analyze your statements, you may realize that the others don't have as much of a black and white view of this violence as does the usa and al-qaeda.....

both al-qaeda and usa are on the forefront of committing terrorism all over the world and are increasing it, not decreasing it......and i think the others realize this quite clearly, and are thus trying to maintain their distance from both........this is the point you have been unable to comprehend, i.e. usa is not looked at as the good guy in this war by the others.....alqaeda isn't either......both are looked at as the bad guys.....
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