Wajahat Ali September 28, 2008
#20 Posted by Goldfinger on September 29, 2008 12:23:22 pm
HP your diatribe against the writer and the article, putting the islamist spin etc on it is actually quite unwarranted because what he says in it is pretty apt. After all the johnnie was not at some bar picking up some bimbo to take home. But then what to say, how would some other ruffian, gangster and looter of ordinary people's wealth, newly released from prison and put on the presidential pulpit have behaved? Not necessarily in the Sarah Palin context, but in the seriousness of tackling the job at hand? In other words, would a leopard change its spots? Lets wait and see...
#19 Posted by tahmed32 on September 29, 2008 12:15:09 pm
HP #18 i cringe when i reminiscence of opportunities missed for absurd reasons, like e.g. an exam the next day when opportunity literally knocked at the door. :-(
#18 Posted by HP on September 29, 2008 12:01:15 pm
Tahmed,
Et tu, Brute?
You see at this time I can only reminiscence. But I know what goes on. I have young kids and I am updated regularly.
Et tu, Brute?
You see at this time I can only reminiscence. But I know what goes on. I have young kids and I am updated regularly.
#17 Posted by tahmed32 on September 29, 2008 11:53:43 am
HP #15: I thought you were no longer in high school??!!
#16 Posted by HP on September 29, 2008 11:51:44 am
CNN had a great article or review on book but what women do wrong
Correction:
CNN had a great article or review on a book ABOUT what women do wrong
Correction:
CNN had a great article or review on a book ABOUT what women do wrong
#15 Posted by HP on September 29, 2008 11:49:58 am
Asadi,
"It takes a lack of self respect and an irrational sexist view of womanhood, that most Pakistani sleaze ball type men are infected with. Like I said, he looks at her and sees an ideal type woman, based on the global standard of whiteness as perfection, she looks at him and sees a slug, a "nice" slug, but a slug nonetheless. Someone should teach the info minister also that "one" does not talk in the "third person" to another."
This is perversion.
He never met her in life! Why would he make this decision? You are too stuck up. Their is nothing sexist about flirt and charming girls. Thats how you meet them in the US.
Yesterday CNN had a great article or review on book but what women do wrong and advised them how to conquer a man in three dates. I mean that article was so ridiculous that it was telling girls to not even kiss a guy on the first date.
Please don't compare environments in the US with what goes on in Pakistan.
You know most of the girls here would be pissed, if the guy took her out for dinner and did not even kiss her goodbye.
Honestly, if a girl doesn't sleep with the guy on the third date, she is history!
Sex is not bad at all. Sexist is different and you need to distinguish the two.
"It takes a lack of self respect and an irrational sexist view of womanhood, that most Pakistani sleaze ball type men are infected with. Like I said, he looks at her and sees an ideal type woman, based on the global standard of whiteness as perfection, she looks at him and sees a slug, a "nice" slug, but a slug nonetheless. Someone should teach the info minister also that "one" does not talk in the "third person" to another."
This is perversion.
He never met her in life! Why would he make this decision? You are too stuck up. Their is nothing sexist about flirt and charming girls. Thats how you meet them in the US.
Yesterday CNN had a great article or review on book but what women do wrong and advised them how to conquer a man in three dates. I mean that article was so ridiculous that it was telling girls to not even kiss a guy on the first date.
Please don't compare environments in the US with what goes on in Pakistan.
You know most of the girls here would be pissed, if the guy took her out for dinner and did not even kiss her goodbye.
Honestly, if a girl doesn't sleep with the guy on the third date, she is history!
Sex is not bad at all. Sexist is different and you need to distinguish the two.
#14 Posted by tahmed32 on September 29, 2008 11:42:25 am
HP: zardari may flirt with palin, but musharraf flirted with the taliban!
so, if zardari sucks the oxygen out of the taliban, then i think we increase his commission to 15%.
so, if zardari sucks the oxygen out of the taliban, then i think we increase his commission to 15%.
#13 Posted by tahmed32 on September 29, 2008 11:36:34 am
Mr. Masadi: Well said, sir. You may be an idiot, sir, but hey..even a broken clock gets the right time twice a day!!
#12 Posted by HP on September 29, 2008 11:35:46 am
#9 Posted by masadi
"This "mentality" (that Zardari displayed with Palin) that HP is now defending he has derided in the past many a time."
Lol! That is so untrue! I have never derided this ANY time in the past. In fact, I love to flirt with ladies(girls in the old days). How do you think you gonna pick up a chick if you can't even flirt to charm her? In fact, I scored in Pakistan too with flirting which to some was outrageous behavior in college and University.
I may be getting old but my wife still keeps an eye on my behavior in every party!
Get lost asadi, you wasted your stay in the US:)
"This "mentality" (that Zardari displayed with Palin) that HP is now defending he has derided in the past many a time."
Lol! That is so untrue! I have never derided this ANY time in the past. In fact, I love to flirt with ladies(girls in the old days). How do you think you gonna pick up a chick if you can't even flirt to charm her? In fact, I scored in Pakistan too with flirting which to some was outrageous behavior in college and University.
I may be getting old but my wife still keeps an eye on my behavior in every party!
Get lost asadi, you wasted your stay in the US:)
#11 Posted by masadi on September 29, 2008 10:26:15 am
Hamid writes "clifton, it takes real chutzpah and gonads to make a pass at the future president of america ."
It takes a lack of self respect and an irrational sexist view of womanhood, that most Pakistani sleaze ball type men are infected with. Like I said, he looks at her and sees an ideal type woman, based on the global standard of whiteness as perfection, she looks at him and sees a slug, a "nice" slug, but a slug nonetheless. Someone should teach the info minister also that "one" does not talk in the "third person" to another.
Have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
It takes a lack of self respect and an irrational sexist view of womanhood, that most Pakistani sleaze ball type men are infected with. Like I said, he looks at her and sees an ideal type woman, based on the global standard of whiteness as perfection, she looks at him and sees a slug, a "nice" slug, but a slug nonetheless. Someone should teach the info minister also that "one" does not talk in the "third person" to another.
Have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
#10 Posted by cliftonbridge on September 29, 2008 10:24:22 am
Im sure palin has had her butt pinched by a few drunken losers in her time ...you are right everyone of them could probably match Zardari in terms of being presidential material....Lord knows he didnt fulfill any other prerequirements, not even mental stability.
However if he does suck the hair off the taliban as he promises i will be happy to consider him second only to Jinnah :)
However if he does suck the hair off the taliban as he promises i will be happy to consider him second only to Jinnah :)
#9 Posted by masadi on September 29, 2008 10:21:13 am
HP writes "This is so juvenile. I mean what is the big deal about a few words he said that whole JI press and its Jamaatia agents are going after him.."
It is not about the "few words" he said, it is about a mentality that sees the other as God in the flesh for whom the whole county is qurban. That is what is unacceptable. If you can take your ethnic lenses off for a while, you might also see the same. Taking this and putting an "Islamic" spin on it is disingenuous. Zardari wont change anything, given the circumstances that have brought him to power. He is not the representative of Sind neither did the Sindhi's vote for him. They voted for his wife and ZAB, the former he helped eliminate, and the latter would have him horsewhipped.
Have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
p.s: This "mentality" (that Zardari displayed with Palin) that HP is now defending he has derided in the past many a time. It is the sell out, viewing the white man (and his woman) as "god" mentality that infects Tahmed and Hamid.
It is not about the "few words" he said, it is about a mentality that sees the other as God in the flesh for whom the whole county is qurban. That is what is unacceptable. If you can take your ethnic lenses off for a while, you might also see the same. Taking this and putting an "Islamic" spin on it is disingenuous. Zardari wont change anything, given the circumstances that have brought him to power. He is not the representative of Sind neither did the Sindhi's vote for him. They voted for his wife and ZAB, the former he helped eliminate, and the latter would have him horsewhipped.
Have a nice day,
TNI Masadi
p.s: This "mentality" (that Zardari displayed with Palin) that HP is now defending he has derided in the past many a time. It is the sell out, viewing the white man (and his woman) as "god" mentality that infects Tahmed and Hamid.
#8 Posted by hamidm2 on September 29, 2008 10:06:32 am
Re: # 7
clifton, it takes real chutzpah and gonads to make a pass at the future president of america .... zardari has proven that he is a real man and that he can "suck the oxygen out of the taliban" ..... we should all be proud of him
clifton, it takes real chutzpah and gonads to make a pass at the future president of america .... zardari has proven that he is a real man and that he can "suck the oxygen out of the taliban" ..... we should all be proud of him
#7 Posted by cliftonbridge on September 29, 2008 9:58:07 am
hamidm the real coup would be if she made a pass at him .... his making passes doesnt help !
#6 Posted by hamidm2 on September 29, 2008 9:54:50 am
Re: # 4
clifton,
.... all men are dogs - the sooner you learn that the better, otherwise you will be disapponted ..... as far as women are concerned, the only 'good' men are gay - that is why 'project runway' is the most popular show among women ......
.... zardari has done us proud by making a pass at a hot chick who will be the future president of america !
clifton,
.... all men are dogs - the sooner you learn that the better, otherwise you will be disapponted ..... as far as women are concerned, the only 'good' men are gay - that is why 'project runway' is the most popular show among women ......
.... zardari has done us proud by making a pass at a hot chick who will be the future president of america !
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