Rape Survivor Families Struggle Against Odds

So Parthaab, you are fine with paedophiles then? Just asking. I feel very strongly about the need to protect underage boys and girls from predators. At least I know and we all know where you stand then.
And yes, sex with an underage child is always rape.
By the way, did you read the news item about a 14 year old German girl raped by a Goa minister's son? Looks like Goa's not quite going to be the happening place it was any more.

Re: # 58; parthaab bhai

I think you have your wires crossed here .... there are very few things in the world I hate and feminism happens to be one of them .... so if the insinuation is that I am a feminist, you couldn't be more wrong!

Re: # 57

The only thing WORSE than a female feminist, is a Male feminist!

Dear nb and Parthaab bhai,

I do sense a certain 'chemistry' evolving between you too! ... I guess three is a crowd ... so leave you guys to it!!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Delhi/2_women_held_for_extorting_money_in_fal se_rape_case/articleshow/3532157.cms

Re: # 54

nb, this debate is about RAPE. Not about the age for consent, which EVIL feminists like you seek to give respectability to.

So a girl can give consent at 15 or 14? How young would you want your own sister or daughter(though clearly you don't have one)to be to give consent? You're the one staking out websites everywhere to say the same thing, and I'm the one who needs psychotherapy?
(As an afterthought, what sort of psychotherapy would you suggest?)

How COULD we believe an extreme feminist like nb, and say that these were findings of an 'religious group' ( her OWN accusation ), and hence had to be WRONG?

Are we all FOOLS? ( Like her husband - or boyfriend is, in all probability?) I am afraid it confirms our worst fears - that women DO lie maliciously to get innocent males into jail. And the quoted figure is (gulp) 41%! NOT accusations, mind you, but false CONVICTIONS!

Do YOU have any study done by money rich feminists?

PLEASE READ THE FINDINGS IN MESSAGE NUMBER 18!

Re: # 51

nb, for all your rantings and ravings and hysterical feminine qualities, I have to admit you have me stumped on the fact that this girl probably gave consent while she was only 15 to have sex with this young bar attendent. So we are all to take it that this man has to be jailed for accepting her consent, and be charged with the utterly unjust crime of rape!

And yet, it is utterly disgraceful, and 'unfeminine' ( whatever that term means ) on your part, to ask that this man is jailed. Feminists like you, need psychotherapy, and are otherwise a danger to the sanity of gender-unbiased society itself.

And Parthaab, Scarlet Keeling was 15, neither she nor her mother can give consent for her to have sex. If someone's DNA is found, he will be charged with statutory rape. Many courts will overlook a 16 year old boy having sex with a 15 year-old, but no one will overlook a 25 or 26 year old. If a 30 year old woman has sex with a 15 year old boy, whether he wanted it or not, she too will go to jail. There was a female teacher of Indian origin in NY who was charged under similar circumstances some time ago, I have not kept up with the story, but if that is what she has done, she should be on the sex offender register too.

You have confirmed exactly what I had said, that your belief is that women are wanton and have random sex, and then blame men. You're suddenly not talking about percentages any more, because there are no legions of men in jail for false charges of rape.

Where and who are the women being "pampered"? You had said this about women athletes too, but the most "pampered" (another favourite Indian word, this) team of all is the Indian men's cricket team.

Nice job here Beena,

Had a chance to meet Mukhtar last year.

Hats off to her efforts.

Ras

Re: # 48

"...because it is what angry men, distressed at any loss of their enormous privileges wish to believe. ..."

Yes, it is unfortunate that males are strangely very quiet about offending female sensitivities on this board, and are remaining quiet.

As for DNA, I believe it is not reliable, since most rape accusations happen after CONSENSUAL sex. The Keeling case might be a good example, if indeed DNA was found on the girl.

The reason why people get convicted by DNA analysis, is that there is no MENS WELFARE department, that will finance a study on false convictions, and the womens department has a lot of money allocated to it, to ensure women get pampered, even at the cost of justice.

Those are figures taken from a website about Ananda, strange for a person who is leftist and an atheist. This is a Hindu religious group which was accused of sexual misconduct and is trying to say the women(several of them) were liars.
It suggests to me that you formed an opinion and looked for evidence to corroborate it. Feminist websites state it is 2%;FBI statistics are 9-10%, less often than false accusations of other crimes. The 41% comes from one study done in one American town(and I won't argue with it) and is all over the internet, because it is what angry men, distressed at any loss of their enormous privileges wish to believe. And even that is 41% of initial accusations, NOT 41% of convictions. Convictions in rape cases are less than 5% in India, lower than many other countries, because of the level of proof needed.
Secondly, I suggest that instead of talking about ephemeral cases, you pull out the lawbooks and take a look at the level of evidence needed to convict a person of rape in a case in an Indian High Court, and then talk about people falsely imprisoned.
I am interested in the Innocence Project and have had some dealings with it. In Australia, it has a unit working out of Griffith Law School on the Gold Coast and it is working on a large number of cases, mainly murder, but also rape. I would welcome DNA evidence being used more extensively in Indian rape cases, because justice is too important to be played with, and I believe rape convictions would rise in India as a result, which would encourage more women to come forward.

Re: # 46; parthaab bhai

I thought it was clear enough ..... the figures you quote seem plausible ... as opposed to nb's assertions that they are not

Re: # 45

"in a third world country of over one billion people, those figures are quite conceivable "


Well, I am no good at maths. Will you tell me what 41% of those convicted for rape is? Most guys need to be jailed for no crime, to understand the meaning of injustice.

Re: # 44; Parthaab bhai
[[The fact remains that there are hundreds, possibly thousands of innocents languishing in jails for the simple reason that no one will believe them]]

in a third world country of over one billion people, those figures are quite conceivable