Reckoning Time for HEC

An egregious example is the $4.3bn HEC mega-project to establish nine new engineering universities staffed by hundreds of European professors.
Gen Musharraf declared that the annual production of PhD degree holders would be boosted from 150 per year to 1,500 per year.


Lets face it...pakis were envious of Indian success stories like the IITs...graduates from the IITs were blazing a trail in the west....pakis thought they could spend a bunch of money and develop institutions overnight...

Institutions like the IITs can't be created overnight...it takes time and patience..and investment...

Pakiland invested it's time and resources in it's own IITs..institutes of islamic terrorism..by islamic terrorism standards, they've been remarkably successful...

Arjun writes "Lets face it...pakis were envious of Indian success stories like the IITs...graduates from the IITs were blazing a trail in the west...."

The only "trail" I saw them "blazing" were the motels line up alongside the interstate system where you blaze in and blaze out and our friends say, "Have a nice day and come back soon"...I doubt Musharraf had the Indians in mind, he most probably had the white man whom he worshiped in mind and wanted to emulate him as an ideal House Slave...

Hoodbhoy is an ignoramus who shouldn't be taken seriously in these matters. Corruption in the education sector of Pakistan is no more than corruption in other areas and it is primarily due to the US, because the Pakistan Army which has been nurtured into its position of dominance by the U.S has destroyed all civil institutions of this country and made them scavengerous leeches, and that includes the educational institutions because the military fears them

Have a nice day and take it easy,

TNI Masadi

p.s Hoodbhoy you miserable buffoon take a hike....

correction: motels lined up alongside the interstate highway system

Let us take Arjun Suggestion.
We should develop institutions of higher learing and be named Pakistan Muslim institute of Technolgy. We should take financial help from all muslim nations to form this intermuslim international institute and keep indians organization in dust. Only 15 days worth of oil out of all muslims land can put 5 times all money put by india. Just in 15 days that is powerof money. 60% seats should be reserved for pakistanis and remaining 30% for arab and muslim world students and remaining 10% seats can be qctioned to highest bidders. The best muslim thinkers, scientist, technonologists all over world should be lured by pious appeal of muslim money fortified with lucrative salaray package. Also 5% can be reserved for oppressed muslims like indian, kashmiri, burmies, thai, and european muslims. !% for muslims from africa. The will 10 colleges with 4 colleges in Karachi specially for international students. Presently education is useless as no moral teaching is going on. Isalamise education and educationise muslims. Teach with faith and courage. Lahore can have specvial ibnstitute for "Management science as al;ready the college there is one of prestigeous in world and many of its students are working at very high positions in world science, technology. Karachi's famous medical and engg college can play wpart. Also we need to employ good prof from USA uk etc . ASk every country to give one institute as india got from usa german, japan, uk and germany. We should add specially with help of china in tech. Some institute for arabs who can not afford to go to usa can get same or better education back in PK.
Hope things move inthat matter. KISA is going to grant 5 Billion Oil Facility. Hope next step be offensive on education by president and specially women education as it was mandate by Benzir. Good day

40% on GRE subject test.. Masadi Sahib comes to mind.

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Hi Masadi after such a long time. I missed you when you decided to disappear after my comments 137-140 at http://www.chowk.com/interacts/13958/1/0/0#373745.

"The only "trail" I saw them "blazing" were the motels line up alongside the interstate system where you blaze in and blaze out and our friends say, "Have a nice day and come back soon"...I doubt Musharraf had the Indians in mind, he most probably had the white man whom he worshiped in mind and wanted to emulate him as an ideal House Slave..."

To this guy Indian, Well-said indeed.

However, are you sure you yourself don't worship the white man? Like many others, You are also licking white man's a** to get a piece of paper called the "PhD".

Earlier, I noticed, by chance, that your previous introductory sentence on this website used to be along the lines "Asadi teaches social science in the US ..." Is such an introduction not worshipping the white man?

HAHA...the professor of social sciences who went to podunk university in the US is talking about the IITs...

masadi..we're eagerly awaiting your next masterpiece on lulu.com...

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masadi mian,

... be careful ... dr hoodbhoy might end up as the head of hec one of these days and weed out 'professors' with masters degrees in sociology from howard and prarie view a&m ....... if i were you, i would apply to bahauddin zakriya university and get a phd - i am sure you can manage a 40% on the gre ...... good luck

Re: # 8; hamid sahib

I have always believed the number of 'social' problems contract/expand depending on the number of 'social workers' available to deal with them .... actually someone better known than myself said that long ago ... may be somebody here can set me right on this?

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cheema sahib,

.... what you say might be right, but masadi is not even a social worker - he simply studies sociology .... which is the equivalent of watching the grass grow ....

This article is excellent. like many of your other high calibre ones.there are a number of very sensible solutions i agree with.but i like this one as the best,for i find it basic and easily possible if it is addressed.re;�because bad teaching quality comes from having teachers with insufficient knowledge of their subject, it is important both to have better teacher selection mechanisms and to create large scale teacher training academies in every province". I suggest that “tags� should include the words “madcap� and “grinding teeth�. It is heartbreaking to read what students are writing about HEC’s letdown.cut in grants to universities is going to have a tough effect on the students' higher study plans.still HEC would use all its resources and think tanks to keep its word to the PhD professors and scholarship students at all cost.now it is easy to see all new and upcoming universities will have to be on their own to make their new institute research- enabled to say the least.and build their own infra structure which can ably support research program.the LABS, the equipment,the library, the internet infrastructure and facility should all be ready and available.
next thing is the research program,for M.phil and PhD.this ball should be in HEC’ s court,only when the research program is duly on the valid anvil then must HEC step in.the university should be ready firstly with all the students admitted, the topics for research chosen, and the highly paid PhD professors appointed as their guide and mentor.that done, apart from the initial financing to cover the cost of preparatory and the indenting of any research program, the rest of the grant should be given instead of lumpsum, in adequate intervals phased out over the entire course.the feasibility of which should speed up by leaps and bounds, in the expected estimation and assessment of the sustaining and supporting cost continuously.the phased out grants should be prompt.period.for this a viable grants committee should be involved actively through the research programs of all universities, and never be allowed to collapse.this will have to be a very conscious effort by all departments concerned.speed of research work should be rewarded if it shows to be accelerating.breakdown in research progress due to teacher or student is another story and should be considered for solving problems, on a “quantum physics calculator -’y’ “ level.no kidding.

Hamid writes "40% on the gre"

My GRE was in the qualitative part was in the 90th percentile, and currently I am in a Phd program. I also got a 100% scholarship to the Univ of Edinburgh which a handful of students get, but I had to turn them down because of living expenses.

Social workers increase in direct proportion to social problems because they are a privatized solution to public problems, public problems do not require private solutions they require restructuring.

Have a nice day and take it easy,

TNI Masadi

My GRE in the qualitative part, was in the 90th percentile

Masadi Sahib:

“...Today a public university professor, provided he successfully finagles himself into the higher-paying (tenure track) position, can make as much as Rs 350,000 per month....�

Masadi sahib, are you ripping off almost $6,000 (Rs. 350,000) per month for what you have to offer to the students in the name of education and knowledge? At Choek, you have demonstrated that you seriously lack foundamentals on which education and knowledge is normally built, only then one can teach others.

“... But the flawed selection mechanism, which amounted to a simple numeracy and literacy high-school-level test, permitted large numbers of academically unprepared students to slip through into advanced graduate programmes.�

Is this how you slipped out to the buckle of bible-belt college with 40 percentile in GRE? You have boasted the name of your elitist of the elites Islamabad high school several times, but you do not mention the name of your buckle of the bible-belt college. Why are you ashamed of naming it, could it be that you like to show yourself off as “America Return� in your institution?


Hoobhoy sahib:

“...Broadly speaking, higher education reform must now aim primarily at improving teaching quality...�

The first priority needs to build a true meritocracy in the education system so that really deserving students can rise to their level.

40th percentile in GRE hardly qualifies for meritocracy. It is, instead, scrapping the barrel (Masadi sahib on the Chowk is one example). You are probably aware that IITs in India selection rate is 1% of applicants, whereas as in the U.S. Ivy Leagues and similar institutions acceptance rate ranges to 10% of applicants. It is a well established fact that among such a group, teaching quality improves, because it challenges students and Professors alike. Your own time at MIT should prove this point.

Viewer writes "Hi Masadi after such a long time. I missed you when you decided to disappear after my comments 137-140 at http://www.chowk.com/interacts/13958/1/0/0#373745."

of course you did, your theft of other's ideas not withstanding I am not interested in saas bahu ke baatian on here. My time is precious. Further teaching social science in the US where I educated the students regarding the crimes of the white man does not make me a slave to the West and since you were detached from my post 2006 history, I did return to Pakistan in 2007 to teach soc at one of the public and then a private university.

Have a nice day and go climb a pole,

TNI Masadi

Arjun writes "HAHA...the professor of social sciences who went to podunk university in the US is talking about the IITs...

masadi..we're eagerly awaiting your next masterpiece on lulu.com..."

Whatever univ I went to, the fact that your HBS graduate Anil was just stumped in a most disgraceful manner on the other thread and none of you IIT giants can hold a candle to anyone of my arguments, not to mention this sorry rebuttal, is masterpiece enough for me.

Have a nice day and take it easy,

TNI Masadi