Khalid Sohail November 4, 2008
#131 Posted by tahmed32 on November 10, 2008 7:23:22 pm
Masadi-exorcised Prof. Asad #124: writes "I FULLY 100% subscribe to what Marx wrote about religion in a capitalist society it becomes a means to an end, an opiate of the masses, much like Rev Wright said, it leads to amnesia."
So religion in the pre-capitalist society of the taliban is not a means to an end then? Mullah Omar loves you. And the Revered-by Masadi Wright does not laugh all the way to the bank after ranting against the US in a "religious sermon"?
Time for another exorcism, perhaps??
So religion in the pre-capitalist society of the taliban is not a means to an end then? Mullah Omar loves you. And the Revered-by Masadi Wright does not laugh all the way to the bank after ranting against the US in a "religious sermon"?
Time for another exorcism, perhaps??
#130 Posted by chaltahai on November 10, 2008 4:43:46 pm
Kulharee, I know you like taking pangas with masadi. But can you go easy on him. I mean, your educational pedigree is far superior to his community college spellchecking one. Just pat him on the head and say shabbash and be done with it.
#129 Posted by masadi on November 10, 2008 3:52:46 pm
Kulharee writes "Weber with one B. Take it easy"
That tells me all I need to know about "how much" classical theory you've read. You know sh** all about Marx, Weber and Durkheim...
Have a nice day and keep to my post's recommendation "please refrain from responding to this post or that paper like an idiot...
TNI Masadi
That tells me all I need to know about "how much" classical theory you've read. You know sh** all about Marx, Weber and Durkheim...
Have a nice day and keep to my post's recommendation "please refrain from responding to this post or that paper like an idiot...
TNI Masadi
#127 Posted by Kulharee on November 10, 2008 3:45:37 pm
Masadi Sahib, you will be surprised to know that I have read them in more detail (Marx Webber Durkheim) than you have Mills. I think you just put your head in the shitter by suggesting that he implication was religion in capitalist societies. Shows how little you know, and how less you are willing to learn. Meanwhile, how is the loadshedding going? You should shed some of that load that has been bothering you since we elected a new President.
#126 Posted by masadi on November 10, 2008 3:22:42 pm
BTW Kulharee mian this separation between capitalist system and religion (part of the superstructure) is unwarranted, learn a little Marx before you strike the log wishing to shatter it in two....
Have a nice day and take it easy,
TNI Masadi
Have a nice day and take it easy,
TNI Masadi
#124 Posted by masadi on November 10, 2008 3:18:56 pm
Kulharee writes "Masadi Sahib, do you also prescribe to Marx’s functionalist’s interpretation of religion? Or only the Capitalist system?"
Ha ha, Kulharee strikes again wishing to shatter the log in two but since its "made in Pakistan" (pun intended), it shatters itself in the process!
Mian jee, haal chaal? baal bacha? US born? I FULLY 100% subscribe to what Marx wrote about religion in a capitalist society it becomes a means to an end, an opiate of the masses, much like Rev Wright said, it leads to amnesia. That said I do not generalize that to religion but to its use. In that I deal in detail use Hegel, check my ilog on Socio-cosmology, and while you're at it, please refrain from responding to this post or that paper like an idiot....
Thank you kindly,
TNI Masadi
Ha ha, Kulharee strikes again wishing to shatter the log in two but since its "made in Pakistan" (pun intended), it shatters itself in the process!
Mian jee, haal chaal? baal bacha? US born? I FULLY 100% subscribe to what Marx wrote about religion in a capitalist society it becomes a means to an end, an opiate of the masses, much like Rev Wright said, it leads to amnesia. That said I do not generalize that to religion but to its use. In that I deal in detail use Hegel, check my ilog on Socio-cosmology, and while you're at it, please refrain from responding to this post or that paper like an idiot....
Thank you kindly,
TNI Masadi
#123 Posted by HP on November 10, 2008 12:23:30 pm
I have not looked at this before I believe from Khurram's post that Dr. Sohail wrote this.
"when Catholic church says that the church will ex-communicate those who will divorce?"
There is no ex-communication in Catholic church anymore. Dr. Sohail needs to learn more.
Instead of Divorce Catholics are allowed Annulment of marriage or the Declaration of Nullity.
Catholics are bound to observe the Catholic form of marriage or to get a dispensation from it in order for their marriages to be valid. For a Catholic to "marry outside the Church" without a dispensation thus results in an invalid marriage, and for such a person to remarry, he needs the Church to look at his first marriage and officially establish that it was invalid and that he is thus free to marry someone else.
This process is commonly known as "getting an annulment."
In 1908 the decree of Ne temere marriage between non catholic and catholic is invalid.
Churches even allow annulment of marriages between the Catholics. Any technical/non-catholic issue can get you an annulment even when both parties are Catholic.
"when Catholic church says that the church will ex-communicate those who will divorce?"
There is no ex-communication in Catholic church anymore. Dr. Sohail needs to learn more.
Instead of Divorce Catholics are allowed Annulment of marriage or the Declaration of Nullity.
Catholics are bound to observe the Catholic form of marriage or to get a dispensation from it in order for their marriages to be valid. For a Catholic to "marry outside the Church" without a dispensation thus results in an invalid marriage, and for such a person to remarry, he needs the Church to look at his first marriage and officially establish that it was invalid and that he is thus free to marry someone else.
This process is commonly known as "getting an annulment."
In 1908 the decree of Ne temere marriage between non catholic and catholic is invalid.
Churches even allow annulment of marriages between the Catholics. Any technical/non-catholic issue can get you an annulment even when both parties are Catholic.
#122 Posted by Kulharee on November 10, 2008 12:03:08 pm
Masadi Sahib, do you also prescribe to Marx’s functionalist’s interpretation of religion? Or only the Capitalist system?
#121 Posted by pinku on November 10, 2008 11:57:04 am
#117 Posted by drsohail on
identity is temporary, i just thought that pinku is not that strong a word, so adopted it as a nick name here.... pinky would have been better except for "sex" conflict:-)
i live in motel california.. I mean in california..
identity is temporary, i just thought that pinku is not that strong a word, so adopted it as a nick name here.... pinky would have been better except for "sex" conflict:-)
i live in motel california.. I mean in california..
#120 Posted by HP on November 10, 2008 11:56:47 am
#107 Posted by drsohail
Are you serious?
Where did I defend Saudi Arabia? I have provided counter point to your posts which failed to adequately address the issues and specifically your bringing in some international rating. I explained that your comparison is just straw man argument as Saudi Arabia and Canada have no equivalence so can not be compared.
If you want to compare the Canada Human rights record you need to do it with the US, UK or other western counties. You can't compare Canada with Djibouti!
That was my whole point. Obviously, you are did not grasp that.
Just to make it even more clear compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.
I didn't expect a Doctor of Psychology to be a literal reader.
Are you serious?
Where did I defend Saudi Arabia? I have provided counter point to your posts which failed to adequately address the issues and specifically your bringing in some international rating. I explained that your comparison is just straw man argument as Saudi Arabia and Canada have no equivalence so can not be compared.
If you want to compare the Canada Human rights record you need to do it with the US, UK or other western counties. You can't compare Canada with Djibouti!
That was my whole point. Obviously, you are did not grasp that.
Just to make it even more clear compare apples to apples not apples to oranges.
I didn't expect a Doctor of Psychology to be a literal reader.
#119 Posted by masadi on November 10, 2008 10:28:15 am
Thanks for providing this link on my ilog
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/oct/15/marx-germany-popularity-fina ncial-crisis
But for those not quite ready to immerse themselves in Marxist theory, Marx's correspondence to Friedrich Engels at the time of an earlier US economic crisis makes more entertaining reading. "The American Crash is a delight to behold and it's far from over," he wrote in 1857, confidently predicting the imminent and complete collapse of Wall Street.
A delight to behold! Somewhat similar to what the Rev Wright rightly said, "God damn America....it's in the Bible"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/oct/15/marx-germany-popularity-fina ncial-crisis
But for those not quite ready to immerse themselves in Marxist theory, Marx's correspondence to Friedrich Engels at the time of an earlier US economic crisis makes more entertaining reading. "The American Crash is a delight to behold and it's far from over," he wrote in 1857, confidently predicting the imminent and complete collapse of Wall Street.
A delight to behold! Somewhat similar to what the Rev Wright rightly said, "God damn America....it's in the Bible"
#118 Posted by tahmed32 on November 10, 2008 9:19:16 am
dr sohail #110: the first part of your two-part response spells out quite accurately, imho, the the basic islamist ideology. if one reflects for a moment on this ideology, it is clear that it is essentially devoid of substance, and can appeal only to pyschopaths or merely individuals suffering from low-self esteem. Pakistani voters see through them (as proved on Feb 18, as well as earlier elections), and the rest of the world has no use for them either.
the second part has to do with the psyche of individuals - i will agree that ben laden has the "space cadet" streak in him. This could be the result of some kind of mental disease running in his family: one of his nieces, wafah defour, has had herself photographed in lewd pictures that would even Paris Hilton blush; and his son, recently in the news, seems to be a complete space cadet who sees himself as an "bridge" between al qaeda and the west while hopping from airport to airport as his visa requests for asylum(!!) in the west are turned down. What do you think of this aspect i.e. of a mental disease that runs in the family?
the second part has to do with the psyche of individuals - i will agree that ben laden has the "space cadet" streak in him. This could be the result of some kind of mental disease running in his family: one of his nieces, wafah defour, has had herself photographed in lewd pictures that would even Paris Hilton blush; and his son, recently in the news, seems to be a complete space cadet who sees himself as an "bridge" between al qaeda and the west while hopping from airport to airport as his visa requests for asylum(!!) in the west are turned down. What do you think of this aspect i.e. of a mental disease that runs in the family?
#117 Posted by drsohail on November 10, 2008 9:00:43 am
Re: # 116
sorry about that PINKU...now tell me before i go how did you get this name...identity..smiles...sohail
ps...and where do you live?
sorry about that PINKU...now tell me before i go how did you get this name...identity..smiles...sohail
ps...and where do you live?
#116 Posted by pinku on November 10, 2008 8:05:09 am
#115 Posted by drsohail on
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i also want to thank pinky and kal chaakra for their inspiration...sincerely sohail
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inspiration aside, you are hurting my fake identity/ego, it is "pinku" not pinky...
it seems we were close to chorus (with some hoarse/coarse voices in the background) than antakshari.... but we couldn't do any.....
imagine how good it would have felt if we were doing "OOOO" together..
good job...
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i also want to thank pinky and kal chaakra for their inspiration...sincerely sohail
]]
inspiration aside, you are hurting my fake identity/ego, it is "pinku" not pinky...
it seems we were close to chorus (with some hoarse/coarse voices in the background) than antakshari.... but we couldn't do any.....
imagine how good it would have felt if we were doing "OOOO" together..
good job...
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