The Psyche of Al-Qaeda

Btw HP mian, when you make claims that such and so is "bogus", your claim holds no merit if you cannot substantiate it. You have not till now, except for making a BS comment like Russia was more developed that Afghanistan so it was more linked to capitalism- which itself is a bs assertion because it assumes development is capitalism. Unlike you I have placed my claim structurally and historically, that is why you need to get an education...

Have a nice day,

TNI masadi

HP writes "So your claim that Taliban are a subset of Capitalism but not the Bolsheviks. That was just bogus and without any reasonable supporting information!.."

It was bogus only if you consider the development of the capitalist world system bogus, but the fact is they both operated within that system where the bourgeoisie was dominant in the world. What is bogus is your inability to understand the global structure and think of countries in isolation and then make ignorant comparisons like comparing the Bolsheviks with the Taliban, who were brought to power by the capitalists of the power state, regardless of your desire to obfuscate the facts that describe their ascension.

Have a nice day and get an education,

TNI Masadi

#169
"is the comparison of what became a bi-polar world with the tiny Taliban and the history of their coming to power parallel for you to make such a comparison."

The comparison is not between Soviet Union and Taliban. It was about why one group-Taliban- is connected with capitalism and the other -Lenin and Bolsheviks- before the 1917 were not. There is sure no comparison with Taliban in power and the Soviet Union in 1940.
So your claim that Taliban are a subset of Capitalism but not the Bolsheviks. That was just bogus and without any reasonable supporting information!

You need to read more Or perhaps understand more than just reading!

Fact of the matter is that the Bolsheviks before the revolution were more hooked up with capitalism than the taliban were. After all Russia was more developed-comparatively- with the Afghanistan that Taliban led.

Dost sahib:

Kerala's muslim population is mainly fishermen. It would not be appropriate to accept neutrality of religion only if fertility rates are equal. We should certainly take other micro-level considerations to understand bias. In my view, if you can prove that clergy's word on contraception trump all other socio-economic factors only then you can positively say that that religion has influenced fertility rate.

Otherwise, arguments are more Masadi like to prove through disproving.

Re: # 171

Masadi sahib:

"...You have to deal not with strawmen but with his or her real arguments..."


Have you ever heard of bottom-up problem solving process and strawman proposals?

Do you think you should nobel prize for this knowledge?

Anil writes "Do you know anything else, other than hurling abusing?.."

Yes I know this much: you are a dishonest moron, and a bigot...

Have a nice day,

TNI Masadi

Masadi sahib:

Why don't you start abusing earlier, so that Chowk can deal with you earlier. Do you know anything else, other than hurling abusing?

Anil writes "Strawman often is a result of lateral thinking and often creative. I do not understand his put down.."

Of course you wouldn't. There is a 'value' of honesty in argumentation. You do not invent your opponents arguments fictitiously and then dismantle them to declare victory. You have to deal not with strawmen but with his or her real arguments. You as a dishonest moron wouldn't know that....

Have a nice day and take it easy,

TNI Masadi

Kulharee writes "I am very pleased with myself."

As they say, ignorance is bliss and you are full of it....

Have a nice day,

TNI masadi

HP writes "That is no answer to the question. Why Taliban operated within the system and Lenin and Bolsheviks did not? "

Well ask yourself that question (because it certainly is a bogus one), is the comparison of what became a bi-polar world with the tiny Taliban and the history of their coming to power parallel for you to make such a comparison. Even then, even at the height of its power the Soviet Union operated within the global capitalist structure as a segmented part of it, and it was brought down by the manipulations of the same system.

Regarding C. W. Mills, the crackpot realists are those that see the world in military terms, post World War 2, not those that understand the workings of the capitalist system. Leave it to a CIA man (or ex CIA man?) to turn facts on their head...

Have a nice day and take it easy,

TNI masadi

#164 Posted by KaalChakra on November 12, 2008 11:01:27 am

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Wrong ideologies, traditional religions, and oppressive elites - political and religious - are the problem. Islam - correctly understood and self-discovered by people themselves - is the solution.
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Kaal:-) What are you doing man? Your statement is still quite complex.

Let's simplify it further:
What you find "wrong" is "wrong" but what you find right is Islam. If this is not the truth you find, you don't understand Islam.


"La Ialaha Il Allaha....." then becomes "Use Islam and not reason, Islam is the reason of God".

That is all you need to say???

Masadi sahib:

How conveniently you forget that you too mis-spelled the name of father of Quantum Mechanics. Please learn modesty as you are equally falliable, unless you claim to replace your prophet. Do you?

Kaal:

Religion in that sense has been used by all. I would say that even Masadi sahib uses it. He claims, but never produces, that he has proof positive evidence of God. Religion is a belief system, and not a science. Belief systems are not questioned, and hence create huge emotions among their believers. For this reason religions can be used (exploited). Marx called them "opiate", as opiate has the same effect. You truly do not have to go too far, just follow and observe what Masadi writes, including his foul language.

Regarding his put down of "strawman". He probably lives in a parallel universe, in the world I live "strawman" is the beginning of most things. Strawman often is a result of lateral thinking and often creative. I do not understand his put down, may be he lacks understanding of "strawman" and bottom-up problem solving methods.

HP sahib:

I have not read much about Marx on religion, I was just explaining the consciousness as you quoted. My views on religions as personal belief system are not based on Marx or anyone else. The question I often quote “Is Man the Best Creation of God, or God is the Best Imagination of Man� is certainly from Riga Veda.

My Marxist binge days coincided with Vietnam War and student movements that sprouted all over Europe. I read and participated in debates on Dialectic Materialism during those days. There were several Islamists who would come and profusely put forward their garbled arguments. Masadi sahib is peddling the same now.

Marx reported for a New York newspaper on Zamindari, Royatwari (feudalism), and East India Company. A while ago I had transcribed and quoted for you here, Marx’s report from my library. Marx had also put forward a theory that demise of East India Company was pre-planned in London, and that British were looking for an excuse to takeover, and Indian mutiny was all set up.

Masadi, you get too upset too soon! It's not always easy to undertand you, so give others a chance.

We can refine that to:

Wrong ideologies, traditional religions, and oppressive elites - political and religious - are the problem. Islam - correctly understood and self-discovered by people themselves - is the solution.

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I would hope that is your core message. If not, please help us correct/refine that. Thanks.