Ather Naqvi November 6, 2008
#1 Posted by parthaab on November 6, 2008 5:31:42 pm
For the already oppressed American male, there can be nothing WORSE than a FEMINIST President like Barack Obama ( TWO daughters :)).
Joe Biden was architect of the anti-male DV in the USA
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=1517, and http://www.mediaradar.org/
A lawyer like Obama, Biden is a leading advocate for dividing Iraq into a loose federation of three ethnic states.
Baracks white mother was a feminist activist, who was into 'World Women Banking', divorced twice, and she raised Obama fatherless ( allowed to see him only till he was 10 years old ).
Btw, is POLITICS second nature for all LAWYERS?
Joe Biden was architect of the anti-male DV in the USA
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?page_id=1517, and http://www.mediaradar.org/
A lawyer like Obama, Biden is a leading advocate for dividing Iraq into a loose federation of three ethnic states.
Baracks white mother was a feminist activist, who was into 'World Women Banking', divorced twice, and she raised Obama fatherless ( allowed to see him only till he was 10 years old ).
Btw, is POLITICS second nature for all LAWYERS?
#2 Posted by Hyde on November 6, 2008 6:40:27 pm
Good point Parthaab...Obama's mother and father were married for exactly one month.
This belongs here too.
The only thing significant is his color. That was a big question…and many wondered…is America ready for a black President? Well, America said yes! Let us wait and see whether Obama is ready or not. The guy is thin on experience and there are many question marks.
He starts out by appointing Rahm as the Chief of Staff. Rahm is a slick operator like his buddy David Axelrod. Rahm’s father was Irgun…which was like AlQuaida in Palestine before 1948. (FROM WIKIPEDIA: Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times newspaper,[3][4] and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.[5])Menachem Begin's boys, Irguns. His father was a Doctor but also keen on bombing places like the King David Hotel in which 91 innocent (mostly British) people were killed and the Deir Yassin massacre (accomplished together with the Stern Gang) on 9 April 1948. The Deir Yassin massacre was the slaughter of all of the inhabitants of the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin by Jewish terrorists. More than 300 Palestinians were killed. Rahm also served in Israeli Army. Rahm is clearly not like his father but Obama’s first appointment sends a great negative signal.
I am just glad that Rahm is not a Likudnik but you never knew what is lurking behind the liberal veneer.
A quote from Obama’s book (he is the only politician in the world who wrote two autobiographies before he turned 45).
Before leaving for Occidental College, Obama visits Frank [Frank Marshall Davis] one last time to get his advice, somewhat on the model of Laertes going to Polonius in Hamlet. Frank tells Obama that college represents "an advanced degree in compromise." Frank explains that Obama has to understand the "real price of admission." The real price is "leaving your race at the door. Leaving your people behind. Understand something, boy. You're not going to college to get educated. You're going there to get trained. They'll train you to want what you don't need. They'll train you to manipulate words so they don't mean anything anymore. They'll train you to forget what it is that you already know. They'll train you so good, you'll start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that s**t. They'll give you a corner office and invite you to fancy dinners, and tell you you're a credit to your race. Until you want to actually start running things and then they'll yank on your chain and let you know that you may be a well-trained, well paid n****r, but you're a n****r just the same." (Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, 97)
. . .Obama narrates that he went to visit Frank Marshall Davis. From Davis, Obama received quantities of whiskey accompanied by a lecture on the incommunicability of race-based experience to persons on the other side of the color line, namely Obama's grandparents, the "white folk." Frank tells Obama that his grandfather is basically a good man but that the black experience for Gramps is a book sealed with seven seals: "He can't know me," says the communist Frank, "not the way I know him. Maybe some of these Hawaiians can or the Indians on the reservation. They've seen their fathers humiliated. Their mothers desecrated. But your grandfather will never know what that feels like." (Dreams 90) Frank concludes: "what I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma's right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not. So you might as well get used to it." (Dreams From my Father 91)
Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the US Communist Party.
Messiah? This is Krugman, “Professor Paul Krugman is surely one of the more intelligent of these critics when he writes: "Why, then, is there so much venom out there? I won't try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. I'm not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality. We've already had that from the Bush administration—remember Operation Flight Suit? We really don't want to go there again." (Paul Krugman, New York Times, February 11, 2008�
Obama went for two years to Occidental College in California and then transferred to Columbia University ("He said in a recent interview that he had begun to weary of the parties and fretted about a lackadaisical approach to his studies,"). At Columbia, he met Brzezinski, who at that time, in his immediate post-Carter administration years, was head of the university's "Russian Studies" program. Not only did Obama, then, meet Brzezinski, but he wrote his senior thesis with Zbigniew Brzezinski as his advisor. A close association with a powerful figure? Well, yes. And is that all there is to it? Well, no. The mystery is this: It turns out that, as far as the public record is concerned, it's almost as if those two years of Obama's life—at Columbia—never even happened, so deep an abyss of secrecy have they fallen into, or so thick a vault have they been locked up in.
And now Zbigniew Brzezinski is his biggest supporter in DC.
Who introduced David Axelrod to Obama? Would be an interesting story to learn too.
Read this great article and learn about Obama
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?_r=1&ref= politics&oref=slogin
I loved this headline at www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x39 9234
"Let Us Shed Tears of Gratitude for this Moment of Grace - It will be Brief "
This belongs here too.
The only thing significant is his color. That was a big question…and many wondered…is America ready for a black President? Well, America said yes! Let us wait and see whether Obama is ready or not. The guy is thin on experience and there are many question marks.
He starts out by appointing Rahm as the Chief of Staff. Rahm is a slick operator like his buddy David Axelrod. Rahm’s father was Irgun…which was like AlQuaida in Palestine before 1948. (FROM WIKIPEDIA: Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times newspaper,[3][4] and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.[5])Menachem Begin's boys, Irguns. His father was a Doctor but also keen on bombing places like the King David Hotel in which 91 innocent (mostly British) people were killed and the Deir Yassin massacre (accomplished together with the Stern Gang) on 9 April 1948. The Deir Yassin massacre was the slaughter of all of the inhabitants of the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin by Jewish terrorists. More than 300 Palestinians were killed. Rahm also served in Israeli Army. Rahm is clearly not like his father but Obama’s first appointment sends a great negative signal.
I am just glad that Rahm is not a Likudnik but you never knew what is lurking behind the liberal veneer.
A quote from Obama’s book (he is the only politician in the world who wrote two autobiographies before he turned 45).
Before leaving for Occidental College, Obama visits Frank [Frank Marshall Davis] one last time to get his advice, somewhat on the model of Laertes going to Polonius in Hamlet. Frank tells Obama that college represents "an advanced degree in compromise." Frank explains that Obama has to understand the "real price of admission." The real price is "leaving your race at the door. Leaving your people behind. Understand something, boy. You're not going to college to get educated. You're going there to get trained. They'll train you to want what you don't need. They'll train you to manipulate words so they don't mean anything anymore. They'll train you to forget what it is that you already know. They'll train you so good, you'll start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that s**t. They'll give you a corner office and invite you to fancy dinners, and tell you you're a credit to your race. Until you want to actually start running things and then they'll yank on your chain and let you know that you may be a well-trained, well paid n****r, but you're a n****r just the same." (Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, 97)
. . .Obama narrates that he went to visit Frank Marshall Davis. From Davis, Obama received quantities of whiskey accompanied by a lecture on the incommunicability of race-based experience to persons on the other side of the color line, namely Obama's grandparents, the "white folk." Frank tells Obama that his grandfather is basically a good man but that the black experience for Gramps is a book sealed with seven seals: "He can't know me," says the communist Frank, "not the way I know him. Maybe some of these Hawaiians can or the Indians on the reservation. They've seen their fathers humiliated. Their mothers desecrated. But your grandfather will never know what that feels like." (Dreams 90) Frank concludes: "what I'm trying to tell you is, your grandma's right to be scared. She's at least as right as Stanley is. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That's just how it is. For your sake, I wish it were otherwise. But it's not. So you might as well get used to it." (Dreams From my Father 91)
Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the US Communist Party.
Messiah? This is Krugman, “Professor Paul Krugman is surely one of the more intelligent of these critics when he writes: "Why, then, is there so much venom out there? I won't try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. I'm not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality. We've already had that from the Bush administration—remember Operation Flight Suit? We really don't want to go there again." (Paul Krugman, New York Times, February 11, 2008�
Obama went for two years to Occidental College in California and then transferred to Columbia University ("He said in a recent interview that he had begun to weary of the parties and fretted about a lackadaisical approach to his studies,"). At Columbia, he met Brzezinski, who at that time, in his immediate post-Carter administration years, was head of the university's "Russian Studies" program. Not only did Obama, then, meet Brzezinski, but he wrote his senior thesis with Zbigniew Brzezinski as his advisor. A close association with a powerful figure? Well, yes. And is that all there is to it? Well, no. The mystery is this: It turns out that, as far as the public record is concerned, it's almost as if those two years of Obama's life—at Columbia—never even happened, so deep an abyss of secrecy have they fallen into, or so thick a vault have they been locked up in.
And now Zbigniew Brzezinski is his biggest supporter in DC.
Who introduced David Axelrod to Obama? Would be an interesting story to learn too.
Read this great article and learn about Obama
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?_r=1&ref= politics&oref=slogin
I loved this headline at www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x39 9234
"Let Us Shed Tears of Gratitude for this Moment of Grace - It will be Brief "
#3 Posted by eyecontact on November 6, 2008 8:06:19 pm
I don't buy the argument that Obama will prove to be just another ordinary US President and play into the hands of the American establishment. He'll definitely make a difference!
#4 Posted by MatloobZaman on November 6, 2008 8:21:44 pm
Re: # 3
Regardless of what we think or speculate, there are certain limitations a US president can maneuver within prescribed parameters. The "national" policies are prescribed in long term plans of action and no president deviates from those plans for the so-called national interest.
Regardless of what we think or speculate, there are certain limitations a US president can maneuver within prescribed parameters. The "national" policies are prescribed in long term plans of action and no president deviates from those plans for the so-called national interest.
#5 Posted by eyecontact on November 6, 2008 9:03:37 pm
You're right Zaman sb but i believe personalities do make a difference at the end of the day. Can't we see the sharp contrast between Bush and Clinton?
#6 Posted by parthaab on November 6, 2008 9:30:40 pm
Re: # 2
You can TRUST the Americans to do the WRONG thing!
You can TRUST the Americans to do the WRONG thing!
#7 Posted by guru on November 6, 2008 10:15:54 pm
now since Obama is president elect when will Bakis elect a Hindu haris as president and christian bhangi prime-minister?
#8 Posted by Mr.India on November 6, 2008 10:27:55 pm
#7
Gurooooo
You knew the answer to this rhetorical question didnt you '.)
When India appoints Coas A Muslim and Prime Minister as mussallman
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#9 Posted by eyecontact on November 6, 2008 10:32:52 pm
But a Black man going to the White House is something of a miracle, isn't it?
#11 Posted by nkg on November 7, 2008 12:03:30 am
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#12 Posted by eyecontact on November 7, 2008 2:00:39 am
Well, I still believe that a beginning can be made at this juncture...
#13 Posted by eyecontact on November 7, 2008 9:04:31 pm
Much will be known after Obama completes his selection of team!
#14 Posted by Goldfinger on November 7, 2008 10:49:33 pm
Re: # Says nkg: "hey, don't expect that much from mo follwer beduinoids...first, let them repeal 7th century arab barbarism like shariat etc... and make the country livable for civilised (non mo follwers) people...."
Well seems like nkg has some deep-seated hatred for the followers of 7th century religion because he's everywhere spewing his venom against them...he wants people to go to earlier time period...so that everyone could become like him (nkg)...start clasping hands in front of your chests and bowing your heads in submission to Kali,the Devi of trickery, treachery, and perfidy and start drinking huge bowls of urine daily...start burning live women in suttee when their husbands die, and join his magnificent religious cult, the Thugs of India. After all, as part of his (nkg's)religion, Thugee was practiced for a long time. The Thugs used to waylay any and all unwary travellers travelling anywhere in India. The culmination and ecstacy of his religious antecedents was when ever they could take into complete confidence an innocent traveller. Then, while the poor unwary soul slept, with a silk handkerchief, his life would be snuffed out, and the poor man still thinking his murderer to be his friend. In this way, over the ages in one of the few fields India has been able to garner a niche for itself in the Guinness book of world records, is the slot of Thugee and serial killings. Thugee and Thugs are recognised as having been the greatest serial murderers of history, possessing a strange record of sorts to their credit, of murders of millions of unwary travellers. That is the philosophy and the beacon which is guiding nkg's goat into this 21st century.
Well seems like nkg has some deep-seated hatred for the followers of 7th century religion because he's everywhere spewing his venom against them...he wants people to go to earlier time period...so that everyone could become like him (nkg)...start clasping hands in front of your chests and bowing your heads in submission to Kali,the Devi of trickery, treachery, and perfidy and start drinking huge bowls of urine daily...start burning live women in suttee when their husbands die, and join his magnificent religious cult, the Thugs of India. After all, as part of his (nkg's)religion, Thugee was practiced for a long time. The Thugs used to waylay any and all unwary travellers travelling anywhere in India. The culmination and ecstacy of his religious antecedents was when ever they could take into complete confidence an innocent traveller. Then, while the poor unwary soul slept, with a silk handkerchief, his life would be snuffed out, and the poor man still thinking his murderer to be his friend. In this way, over the ages in one of the few fields India has been able to garner a niche for itself in the Guinness book of world records, is the slot of Thugee and serial killings. Thugee and Thugs are recognised as having been the greatest serial murderers of history, possessing a strange record of sorts to their credit, of murders of millions of unwary travellers. That is the philosophy and the beacon which is guiding nkg's goat into this 21st century.
#15 Posted by eyecontact on November 7, 2008 11:11:41 pm
Well, the situation should be seen in its entirety. Mindsets have to be changed!!!
#16 Posted by mehulkamdar on November 8, 2008 7:30:46 am
Yesterday's Hindustan Times carried an article that said something that close Obama watchers in the USA knew but which the media here did not publicize, nor did the international media, in its euphoria, care to investigate: Sonal Shah, a key Obama advisor happens to be a strong Vishwa Hindu Parishad supporter and the daughter of one of the founders of the Overseas Friends of the BJP.
Look a little closer and it also turns out that Rahm Emmanuel, his bureau chief, happened to be a volunteer who fought in the Israeli Army in the 6 Day War. How this bodes well for peace, I shall leave the Islamists to answer. They and sundry socialists were the ones who led the jeering and noise that greeted Obama's victory after they campaigned for him right through. While this is not to support a decrepit old imbecile like John Mc Cain, there is a delightful irony in the fact that the fundamentalists who hooted and hollered for Obama now find themselves hoist on their own petard.
"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace, two are a law firm and three are called a Congress." - John Adams, 1776.
Look a little closer and it also turns out that Rahm Emmanuel, his bureau chief, happened to be a volunteer who fought in the Israeli Army in the 6 Day War. How this bodes well for peace, I shall leave the Islamists to answer. They and sundry socialists were the ones who led the jeering and noise that greeted Obama's victory after they campaigned for him right through. While this is not to support a decrepit old imbecile like John Mc Cain, there is a delightful irony in the fact that the fundamentalists who hooted and hollered for Obama now find themselves hoist on their own petard.
"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace, two are a law firm and three are called a Congress." - John Adams, 1776.
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