Saroosh Shabbir November 9, 2008
#36 Posted by nkg on November 11, 2009 5:59:43 am
Re: # 34
ahmed madani...
the best govt. we got from ABV...
ahmed madani...
the best govt. we got from ABV...
#35 Posted by dialogue on November 15, 2008 4:53:58 am
mr. zardari - from mr. 10% ro mr. 100% - what a journey. the most eligible single.
#34 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 14, 2008 7:30:00 pm
Re: # 32 Mr. Gandhi gave his wise wife Mrs Gandhiji and son and daughter to India which saved congress party and assured India of continuity of family and leadership.At heart every Indian knows till Gandhi family member is there there is legitimate ruler for india. Worry is mr. Rahul does not produce child that can lead to instability. I have thory he will marry after election if his party gets power otherwise not wait next elections. He is like actor, when actors marry women loose heart and his popularity can go down specially as vowed to not marry indian like his father. He is too fair and nice and rich to marry Indian, its dilemma for Soniyaji and family. At that level even marriage is business with love to be balancing all aspects. Mrs Gandhiji act as nucleus for party and no body can challenge supreme leadership adds good gravity and stabilty for party or without family member the party a national party will disintegrate in no time. Bhutto family does same here. Without Bhutto member all will start fighting and disintegration will be fast and there will be national party. We need family and family Jiyalas.
Good day.
Good day.
#33 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 14, 2008 7:13:26 pm
Mr. S .Shabir You start article about apathy of people. In old days Plato wrote book named "republic" and and suggested young people should take interest in govt etc, and those who do not take those efforts forfit their right to criticise. Just flashed in my mind. Good Day
#32 Posted by nkg on November 14, 2008 3:51:22 am
Majumder....
You are right, if India can tolerate Rajiv Gandhi as PM for 5 years (in all practical purposes, he is one of the most stupid head of a country, this earth has got so far...). Most of the modern day problems (introduction of rampant corruption in defence procurement, Babri Mosque issue, islamic fundamentalism in india....) India is facing not, was implanted during his tenure. He was very successful in truncating Congress into bellow 200MP party....His qualities are endless...Pakistanis should stick to AAZ for full 5 years, if they want to prove to the world that, they are humans with some sense of discipline and civilisation....
You are right, if India can tolerate Rajiv Gandhi as PM for 5 years (in all practical purposes, he is one of the most stupid head of a country, this earth has got so far...). Most of the modern day problems (introduction of rampant corruption in defence procurement, Babri Mosque issue, islamic fundamentalism in india....) India is facing not, was implanted during his tenure. He was very successful in truncating Congress into bellow 200MP party....His qualities are endless...Pakistanis should stick to AAZ for full 5 years, if they want to prove to the world that, they are humans with some sense of discipline and civilisation....
#31 Posted by MatloobZaman on November 12, 2008 5:49:34 pm
Re: # 15
Quite a commitment this happens to be, more power to you Z
Quite a commitment this happens to be, more power to you Z
#30 Posted by tahmed32 on November 12, 2008 7:53:25 am
Zeena #15 Zardari is doing a good job in taking out the vermin Musharraf allowed to build a base in Bejaur. And he did get rid of Musharraf too. So he is not all bad.
Nevertheless, I think he wont last beyond the next elections - the "silent majority" in Pakistan will demolish him and the PPP with him for reneging on the fundamental issue of the rule of law, and if PML continue to stick to their stand on this issue it will win big. And when that happens (and unless he manages to scoot the country with the loot by then), Musharraf will find himself in court facing charges for his multiple crimes against Pakistan and its people, not to mention the rest of the world with his role as terrorist-enables. As will the other criminals who attacked Pakistanis demonstrating for the rule of law on May 12.
Nevertheless, I think he wont last beyond the next elections - the "silent majority" in Pakistan will demolish him and the PPP with him for reneging on the fundamental issue of the rule of law, and if PML continue to stick to their stand on this issue it will win big. And when that happens (and unless he manages to scoot the country with the loot by then), Musharraf will find himself in court facing charges for his multiple crimes against Pakistan and its people, not to mention the rest of the world with his role as terrorist-enables. As will the other criminals who attacked Pakistanis demonstrating for the rule of law on May 12.
#29 Posted by barristerakc on November 12, 2008 4:46:24 am
Right now what I am more concerned about is how will the government spend the $5-6 billion IMF loans us.
PIA’s looses are around Rs.2bn / month alone where the managing director has asked for another Rs.55bn to be injected by the federal government …Then the proposed reinstatement of 5000-6000 people (which is not bad at all but at these economic times?)…Then I will give you an example of a recent reinstatement of an ex-employee who was sacked on charges of corruption and theft (she wrongly tagged passengers luggage and used to steal their valuable belongings – proven record) apparently, she was reinstated with 2 group promotions and pay (Rs.27,00,000 paid) – her qualification: that she’s a Sindhi … one example there are many more… everyday I have to go through this guilt of doing nothing and talk from going to my chambers to coming back ….every freaking day!)
For the first time in my life with all the hate kept aside, I am seriously concerned – somehow – I do not know why!
#28 Posted by barristerakc on November 12, 2008 4:32:02 am
Majumdar Bhai Sahab,
That would be an ideal situation but let’s be practical here.
We all know Iftikhar Chaudry will not be allowed to head Supreme Court again – it seems to be part of deal between Mushraff , Zardari and foreign powers – OR – he would have been reinstated long time ago – Zardari would have established his credibility in Punjab too.
I now see a real parting away between Nawaz Sharif & Zardari now – Nawaz Sharif can not afford to side himself with PPP anymore with the growing unrest and would play for the gallery while Zardari can not afford to offend Americans, His Allies (MQM – through them he plans to rule in future) and others players….it’s politics!
58 2(b) is a problem and on principle should be “REMOVED� but for the moment the removal of 58 2(b) would mean, creating further sense of insecurity in PPP’s government (even with there president – it’s symbolism)…
Yaar we seriously need some sort of stability - economic, political and social.
That would be an ideal situation but let’s be practical here.
We all know Iftikhar Chaudry will not be allowed to head Supreme Court again – it seems to be part of deal between Mushraff , Zardari and foreign powers – OR – he would have been reinstated long time ago – Zardari would have established his credibility in Punjab too.
I now see a real parting away between Nawaz Sharif & Zardari now – Nawaz Sharif can not afford to side himself with PPP anymore with the growing unrest and would play for the gallery while Zardari can not afford to offend Americans, His Allies (MQM – through them he plans to rule in future) and others players….it’s politics!
58 2(b) is a problem and on principle should be “REMOVED� but for the moment the removal of 58 2(b) would mean, creating further sense of insecurity in PPP’s government (even with there president – it’s symbolism)…
Yaar we seriously need some sort of stability - economic, political and social.
#27 Posted by IamNadia on November 12, 2008 4:28:52 am
Saroosh:
History of pakistan is like tale of unfortunate events and Zardari has not shied away from filling colors in it. Pakistan has always been treated as an orphan by brutual circumstances and pathetic uneven trials. There are people who can sell the " power for people and the masses" for few thousand acres of land, can disrespect the legitimacy and supremacy of courts and laws.
All of your unhappiness is precise but not accurate as he couldnt be made responsible for not lettting the bulb light for 8 years and so fueling desperation and darkness for our democracy. And pakistan peoples party has emerged and evolved to this conclusion of such a close decision for presidency after so much betrayls!
History of pakistan is like tale of unfortunate events and Zardari has not shied away from filling colors in it. Pakistan has always been treated as an orphan by brutual circumstances and pathetic uneven trials. There are people who can sell the " power for people and the masses" for few thousand acres of land, can disrespect the legitimacy and supremacy of courts and laws.
All of your unhappiness is precise but not accurate as he couldnt be made responsible for not lettting the bulb light for 8 years and so fueling desperation and darkness for our democracy. And pakistan peoples party has emerged and evolved to this conclusion of such a close decision for presidency after so much betrayls!
#26 Posted by majumdar on November 12, 2008 4:02:12 am
Chisti sahib,
Globally oil and food prices are easing off anyway, so I dont think much intervention will be required. In that sense the current govt has been lucky.
As far as the lawyers movement is concerned, I seriously think AAZ and NS should sit down and remove all illegal amendments to the Constt and 58 2(b) asap. The demand for restoration of judges (11/3 status) too seems to be the right thing to do, although I presume you have some reservations about that.
Regards
Globally oil and food prices are easing off anyway, so I dont think much intervention will be required. In that sense the current govt has been lucky.
As far as the lawyers movement is concerned, I seriously think AAZ and NS should sit down and remove all illegal amendments to the Constt and 58 2(b) asap. The demand for restoration of judges (11/3 status) too seems to be the right thing to do, although I presume you have some reservations about that.
Regards
#25 Posted by barristerakc on November 12, 2008 3:57:34 am
Zardari should also look into strengthening his allies – MQM to start with by giving them more confidence (giving out major ministries / strengthening local bodies) ; ANP seems to have started a new-war with JUI-F over agricultural land….
Then there’s this lawyers movement which has faded but not completely – I have a funny feeling that it will be used and abused again by Nawaz and Army to bring this government down in future…. Naik & Zardari needs to sort something out amicably – I am sure the drovy eyed one Iftikar Chaudry will make a deal with a political government given a proper face-cover….
#24 Posted by barristerakc on November 12, 2008 3:57:05 am
Re: # 23, I agree , I agree !
The problem seems not the policy but priorities of the current government. They should start cutting down on the perks/government expenditure to give some sort of confidence to the commoners apart from seriously, subsidizing essential food items and petrol…instead of starting Benazir Income Fund (which is essentially a great idea but not viable now – maybe they could use Zakat Fund to distribute the money instead…)..
Regards.
The problem seems not the policy but priorities of the current government. They should start cutting down on the perks/government expenditure to give some sort of confidence to the commoners apart from seriously, subsidizing essential food items and petrol…instead of starting Benazir Income Fund (which is essentially a great idea but not viable now – maybe they could use Zakat Fund to distribute the money instead…)..
Regards.
#23 Posted by majumdar on November 12, 2008 3:42:28 am
Chishti sahib,
Every passing day Mushraff’s policies are being proved right - be it regards to economics or on war on terror.
Quite possible. But even correct policies have to be adopted by constitutional means (like by this present govt) by a legitimately elected govt. And since a legit govt is implementing this policy quite likely it will attract popular support.
Regards
Every passing day Mushraff’s policies are being proved right - be it regards to economics or on war on terror.
Quite possible. But even correct policies have to be adopted by constitutional means (like by this present govt) by a legitimately elected govt. And since a legit govt is implementing this policy quite likely it will attract popular support.
Regards
#22 Posted by barristerakc on November 12, 2008 3:26:45 am
Every passing day Mushraff’s policies are being proved right - be it regards to economics or on war on terror.
#21 Posted by barristerakc on November 12, 2008 3:14:18 am
Re: # 20
Majumdar bhai,
We made agreements in the tribal belt and that didn’t worked out although the Americans did there bit for the agreements to break but eventually agreements were brokens by the tribals. There’s no other alternative then to go after the PTT strong and if we can not do the job – the Americans and ISAF forces should do the job for us – it’s in our interest.
The news I am getting from FATA (I had been there there couple of times myself recently) that Army is slowly but surely making headways and cleaning the Islamists Rats who plans to dominate the world……
Majumdar bhai,
We made agreements in the tribal belt and that didn’t worked out although the Americans did there bit for the agreements to break but eventually agreements were brokens by the tribals. There’s no other alternative then to go after the PTT strong and if we can not do the job – the Americans and ISAF forces should do the job for us – it’s in our interest.
The news I am getting from FATA (I had been there there couple of times myself recently) that Army is slowly but surely making headways and cleaning the Islamists Rats who plans to dominate the world……
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