Saima Shah November 12, 2008
#298 Posted by majumdar on November 23, 2008 9:19:17 pm
Cheema sahib,
Pig, Hindoo, He-goat, Chicken,..... the list grows longer.
Regards
Pig, Hindoo, He-goat, Chicken,..... the list grows longer.
Regards
#297 Posted by nkg on November 23, 2008 9:11:05 pm
as per my understanding of animal digestive system is concerned, the muscle formation do not depend upon what it eats (not chemical contamination etc... but broad category of food items)...but then the 7th century beduin should not be aware of it and whatever he had concluded from external observation or prejudice he had inherited from the jewish and arab tribes, passed as word of god....
#296 Posted by akcheema on November 21, 2008 2:59:09 am
another very well known scavenger and omnivore commonly used for food is the chicken ... it would eat almost anything available including pecking on its own filth! despite those attributes, seems very popular with most of humanity including the "faithful".
#295 Posted by nkg on November 20, 2008 11:58:11 pm
majumder,cheema...
I have seen cow drinking it's own urine....for vegetarian animals, the content of nitrogenous (harmful) substance will be very less in their urine (urine is not a chemical compund, it is kind of mixture)....so, they can drink their own urine....
I have seen cow drinking it's own urine....for vegetarian animals, the content of nitrogenous (harmful) substance will be very less in their urine (urine is not a chemical compund, it is kind of mixture)....so, they can drink their own urine....
#294 Posted by majumdar on November 20, 2008 11:26:16 pm
Cheema sahib,
I have (first hand) observed the male-goats before the "baqr eid" drinking their own urine
So we can add the goat to the list of animals which eat their own excrement, in addition to the pig and the Hindoo.
Btw, I think avoidance of pork was more a reason for avoiding tapeworm than anything else.
Regards
I have (first hand) observed the male-goats before the "baqr eid" drinking their own urine
So we can add the goat to the list of animals which eat their own excrement, in addition to the pig and the Hindoo.
Btw, I think avoidance of pork was more a reason for avoiding tapeworm than anything else.
Regards
#293 Posted by akcheema on November 20, 2008 8:48:04 pm
the 'taboo' regarding pork has nothing whatsoever to do with its eating habits ... it was a half-hearted continuation of jewish custom of not eating anything that "doesn't chew the cud or doesn't have split hooves" according to the old testament .... by that rule, the camel also falls into the 'haraam' category ... this, of course, was overruled since the arabs were fond of the camel and considered the pig a taboo ... given their sense of inferiority to the "people of the book" (yes that is exactly what they were called! the term was 'plagiarised' into the main source of muslim mythology (the koran)
as for the animals eating habits, like I said long ago now, I have (first hand) observed the male-goats before the "baqr eid" drinking their own urine; it gave them a strange musky smell ... hence the term "Bo-bakra"! ... never put the momins off their food the next day!
as for the animals eating habits, like I said long ago now, I have (first hand) observed the male-goats before the "baqr eid" drinking their own urine; it gave them a strange musky smell ... hence the term "Bo-bakra"! ... never put the momins off their food the next day!
#292 Posted by harimau on November 20, 2008 8:46:44 pm
Saima Shah wrote [I am searching for something wise to say after Obama won the Presidency, something that goes beyond the euphoria]
You could have asked if the White House will be known as Uncle Tom's Cabin come Jan 20, 2009.
You could have asked if the White House will be known as Uncle Tom's Cabin come Jan 20, 2009.
#291 Posted by treetop on November 20, 2008 11:58:33 am
these dudes NKG and ARJUN are certainly from south india.
come on north india cut them off and join pakistan.
come on north india cut them off and join pakistan.
#290 Posted by jang on November 20, 2008 10:53:50 am
oye yar, now if god has hasked you to follow some simple thing s like dont eat pork, why be a querulous b!tch? just do it..you will get khuli xchoot on really big things like building empires by waging wars with divine blessings.
look at the big picture
look at the big picture
#289 Posted by sattar2 on November 20, 2008 10:09:08 am
So folks, what’s the answer? What to make of the verses forbidding pork? Quran says to shun pork, but tahmed says pork is fine as long as you are willing to put up with low quality meat (!!). Of course, between allah and tahmed, …tahmed knows better …
On a serious note: The issue goes much beyond pork. Quran contains detailed dietary instructions: 4-legged cattle is fine to eat, so is prey caught by trained animals and birds, etc. Forbidden is animal that dies of itself, was slaughtered in the name of a deity other than Allah, has been strangled or beaten to death, or killed by a fall … etc. etc.
Quran goes on to say that clawed animals were forbidden for Jews; also forbidden for Jews was fat on ox, sheep, and goats … though fat on the backs of these animals was OK. Indeed, this is all in Quran …
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tahmed Sahib, you remain in denial … and think that merely claiming rationality is enough.
And it is not that you don’t have an answer; the problem is that you do not understand the question.
On a serious note: The issue goes much beyond pork. Quran contains detailed dietary instructions: 4-legged cattle is fine to eat, so is prey caught by trained animals and birds, etc. Forbidden is animal that dies of itself, was slaughtered in the name of a deity other than Allah, has been strangled or beaten to death, or killed by a fall … etc. etc.
Quran goes on to say that clawed animals were forbidden for Jews; also forbidden for Jews was fat on ox, sheep, and goats … though fat on the backs of these animals was OK. Indeed, this is all in Quran …
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tahmed Sahib, you remain in denial … and think that merely claiming rationality is enough.
And it is not that you don’t have an answer; the problem is that you do not understand the question.
#288 Posted by dost_mittar on November 20, 2008 4:30:12 am
tahmed#270:
You did not offend me at all; how can an old friend offend over a disagreement? and I'm sure we'll have more of them, inshallah, without offending each other.
You did not offend me at all; how can an old friend offend over a disagreement? and I'm sure we'll have more of them, inshallah, without offending each other.
#287 Posted by nkg on November 20, 2008 4:28:25 am
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#286 Posted by KaalChakra on November 20, 2008 3:42:52 am
Guys, one can distinguish between individuals and groups. :)
Individuals from ANY groups can be the best of friends, if they understand and appreciate where the other is coming from.
Individuals from ANY groups can be the best of friends, if they understand and appreciate where the other is coming from.
#285 Posted by _arjun38 on November 20, 2008 3:19:59 am
zahid rafique crawled out of the rock he was hiding under...
#284 Posted by akcheema on November 20, 2008 3:15:23 am
Re: # 282; Kaal
someone describing YOU as an animal eating its own excrement is your friend?? have some backbone man
someone describing YOU as an animal eating its own excrement is your friend?? have some backbone man
#283 Posted by Humsab on November 20, 2008 3:13:35 am
KC ji
Friends????????
And what about the idea propounded by Mr. Zeemax and supported by (of all the people) somebody who CLAIMS to be a PHILOSOPHER!!!!!
Regards
Friends????????
And what about the idea propounded by Mr. Zeemax and supported by (of all the people) somebody who CLAIMS to be a PHILOSOPHER!!!!!
Regards
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