The Correct Turn

On TV the breaking news is that Indians are sending more ships to the Somalian coast. I am glad that Indians are finally ready to fight the pirates. They just don't know the price of this enthusiasm. Good luck Indians..you are asking for it!

Reality about Kashmir is that it enables elite like HamidM to quaff whisky while pointing to India / Kashmir as the enemy for whom the sacred forst of Islam must continue to do battle. Meanwhile the same elite will shove a boot up islamist butt when their status quo is threatened. This is notwithstanding the Muslims of the Kashmir valley wanting freedom

#75 Posted by stuka
And Faruk has always been a Muslim. U might be confusing him with someone else"

No, I am not. You can go back and check his old posts.
There was no turnout in the muslim majority areas in Kashmir. I have read that In Pakistan papers and the media is Pakistan is free and India it is not.We know that papers and TV in Kashmir are heavily censored.

romair #59
I see strong parallels in the situation in Baluchistan and Kashmir, a fraction of the people are fighting to secede. Whats the big difference...

Regards,

Faruk

Tahmed,

Northern Baluchistan was part of Afghanistan for a long time and it a Pashtoon majority area. If there is any Pashtoonistan, this area will go to Pashtoonistan. The Baluch have no problem with that as they don't have any claim on that area. The current Baluchistan borders were created by the British after they captured and annexed the area.

i think the earlier kashmir polling was in aras not controlled by militants, hence high turnout. next one wont have high turnout.

rabia, you are right, we are way beyond morality in kashmir.

And Faruk has always been a Muslim. U might be confusing him with someone else.

Re: # 66 Posted by hamidm2 on November 21, 2008 10:46:18 am

hamid mian,

[..but i have never met a baluch .....] Where have they gone? maybe you did not travel enough towards meerjawa close to the iranian border. You could've seen Baluchi villages spread along the way.

Did you know that originally these Baluchis were people from Turkmenistan? And then somewhere along the line some makranis were thrown in this mix. How could a makrani claim to be a Baluchi? It seems that makranis are celebrating Obama's win.

what say you?

Rabia: The communalization of the Indian response to Kashmir is a response to the blatant communalization of the seperatist movement to begin with. It was Muslim Kashmiris who hounded out Kashmiri Hindus and killed many Pandits. Your point would be valid if the communal behavior of Kashmiris was a response to Indian Hindu communal behavior. That indeed was not the case. Article 370 was maintained. The givernment that rigged elections in 1987 was also dominated b y Kashmiri Muslims of the NC. The Hindus have had no political power in Kashmir since 1948. If anything, Kashmiri Muslims dominate the state bureaucracy RELATIVE TO HINDUS AND MUSLIMS of Jammu and Kargil. Yet, the victim mentality is as if they are being pushed into gas chambers. In such a scenario, a communal reaction is entirely understandable.

HP: Yaar, chutia baatey kar raha hai.. the election was a few days back and the report was of 62% in first phase. Yes, there is curfew today because the Hurriyat panicked after seeing turnout and have tried to create civil disturbnces. Check out the turn out in Phase 2 in 2 days. You can then aggregate the total to get your number.

"... indian moslems, like faruk mian, are worse than the hindoos"
Hamid,
Faruk mian changes his religion frequently. Couple of years ago he was a parsi and then he became a Muslim. I have seen this trend on this blog. Many Hindus call themselves any thing but Hindu even though they support Hindutva and RSS with gusto.

hamidm #66 your pathan relatives chased the baluch out of their land. panjab as usual took on Pakistan's burden and allowed them to settle there. 30 years ago a baluch fellow i recall was saying that he hoped to die fighting in the mountains of baluchistan - then got married to a panjaban from lahore and has never been heard from since (seen, but not heard).

This is what Greater Kasmir is reporting. I don't know what you read.

UNDECLARED CURFEW IN CITY, TOWNS
ANTI-ELECTION PROTESTS IN GANDERBAL, VARMUL, ISLAMABAD; 26 INJURED

ZULFIKAR MAJID
Srinagar, Nov 21: For the fourth time in a month and just two days ahead of second phase of assembly elections, undeclared curfew was imposed in Srinagar and other major towns of the Valley on Friday to thwart the Coordination Committee’s programme to stage protests. At least 26 persons were injured in police and CRPF action on protest rallies in Ganderbal and Varmul, reports said.
There was no official announcement about the curfew, but the para-military CRPF troopers and police personnel who were deployed in strength in every nook and corner of the city, restricted the movement of

#51
"Who cares about the Kashmiris? We're only interested in the land"

thanks for revealing your true face and that of your pathetic compatriots like Faruk here. Not that we didn't know this, but now we can safely ignore you next time you whine on and on about Jinnah the evil communalist -- anyone who talks about the citizens of his own country like this hasn't the slightest right to judge the morality of separatist movements.

HP makes to points

1. Baluchistan will remain in Pakistan

2. Kashmir will come out of India

Conclusion: HP has recently been promoted to general rank in Pakistan Army.

Congrats HP. Good show..make sure you get your plot of land near the Indian border. That's where real estate prices will increase when Indian tourists come to Lahore for shopping and tourism.

HP: Which papers are you reading? Greaterkashmir.com reported a turnout of over 62% in other news...

PDP denies ticket to sex-tainted Khan

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Srinagar, Nov 21: The Peoples Democratic Party has denied mandate to Ghulam Hassan Khan, former MLA Shopian whose name surfaced in the sexual exploitation case of 2007.
Khan was elected in 2002 defeating NC rival Sheikh Muhammad Rafi by a margin of 720 votes. Khan polled 4,083 votes and Rafi 3363 votes. The PDP has this time given mandate to Abdul Razak Zawoora.
The senior leader of the PDP Tariq Hamid Qarra said he has no information why Khan was not given the mandate.
Ghulam Hassan Khan however accused the party of emulating the National Conference. Asked has sexual exploitation case prompted the party to deny him the ticket, Khan said, “I was favourite of Mufti Sayed till Thursday, November 20. And now all of sudden they have denied me the mandate,� Khan said. He said the party president Mehbooba Mufti and its patron Mufti Muhammad Sayed had assured him that he would be given the mandate. But now at the last moment they have denied me the ticket, Khan said. He said Muftis stabbed him in the back. Khan said he would contest from the constituency as independent candidate. Khan would file the nomination papers on November 24.
Mehbooba Mufti, the president of PDP, said the decision about the mandate was taken after the recommendation of the mandate committee. She said it wouldn’t divide the party votes in the constituency.

Re: # 64

hp mian,

.... i was born in quetta and half my family still lives there, but i have never met a baluch ..... from my point of view everyone who lives in quetta is a pushtun with a few hazaras thrown in ......... the only baluchs i have met are in karachi or in dg khan which is in the punjab ..... who are they and where do they live? ....

... indian moslems, like faruk mian, are worse than the hindoos - they are always trying to prove their loyalty to the mother land by being more hindoo than morarji desai .... they are worse than .... than masadi mian and mirzaees