The Correct Turn

"And, barring Pakistan, this condemnation did not only come from countries that are expected to play a more sympathetic role towards the Kashmiris' legitimate demands of self-determination"

Haha, the problem is India is not going to budge neither by their violence nor new found love for Ahimsa.

You think it's legal, they think it's legal but we don't think it's legal. And at the end of the day, what we think is what matters. So legal or not Kashmir will remain our "female of canine variety" until India wants it to be so.

Nadeem would it be right to say Pakistani nationalism can be defined by the Kashmir issue?
Now that Pakistan backed militancy has done wonders for Pakistan and has been defeated by India this article is about Pakistanis trying to take solace in something.
The fact of the matter is Kashmir in the long term is better off with India. Whenever you doubt that you can take a look at the two Pure Islamic states that separated from India.

Regards,

Faruk

Like the three Palestinian Intifada movements, the recent Kashmiri uprising too has nothing to do with bombs, kidnappings, beheadings and assorted terrorist tactics.


pali intifada has nothing to do with bombs?

WTF are you smoking besides cigarettes?

Nadeem ji,

the so called non-violent uprising and agitation is just an accessory and a support to help the terrorists being pushed from the borders by the Pakistani Awaam.

The real terrorists are the PAkistani Awaam who breed , nurture and support these Jehadis .

If you look at the events and tie them together then it becomes clear. The terrorists sneak from the border and the "moderate" leaders take the lumpens to the streets in the valley.

This is in NO way "a bold act of stamping a seal of disapproval against the tactics of the armed groups" -rathar it is just another way to supplement the terror and Jehad by the kashmiri momeens and Pakistanis.

Nadeem....
With the current financial situation, it would be better for Pakiland to acquire Kashmir for around 200/300bn US$ and get 20mn moslems from India for free. That way Islam will be more dense in Pakiland and India will also benefit...somehow, we need to convince this to our politicians....and Saudi and Dubai Govt. should sponsor this...
Our madrasi (P Chidambaram) FW will definitely agree. I am not sure about the rest of the people...

Re: # 1
Cobra....
"Haha, the problem is India is not going to budge neither by their violence nor new found love for Ahimsa. "

Hey there no love for Ahimsa...they used violence to see that Pundits leave Kashmir enmass to make it pure semi-beduin zone...then tried to fight with Indian armed forces, with help of Paki army, both sides lost enough people. Now Paki army is sold to USA/NATO and they are not able to help jihadis....So jihadis are now reluctantly using this unislamic method of demonstration etc...

for better information read G Parthasarathy.....

"Islamists do not shun western science and philosophy like the fundamentalists do. Instead, Islamists have been known to advocate the thorough study of western intellectual, political and cultural trends in an attempt to challenge them through their understanding and interpretation of Islam. This has made the writings of Islamists rather fascinating."

Nadeem,

This is completely FALSE. Islamists DO NOT profess using hypothetico-deductive scientific method to corroborate human imaginary theories. Instead, they aim at pushing and creating fantastic discourses (like Masadi's Islamic-GUTS theory) in order to spread propaganda about the GIVENS of Quran and Islam.

Islamists have no use for science. Islamists do not consider "revealed" as hypothesis , but as givens that must be saved at all costs- even to the extent of spreading lies about other non-muslim faiths.

Nadeem,

I did not know that you can be so gullible!!

It sounds strange , but you seem to be falling into the Islamic traps as you grow older.

"Political Islam had devolved into what we now call "Islamic fundamentalism," that is, Political Islam stripped clean off its intellectual moorings and reduced to being an ideology of pure terror and having a myopic and narrow understanding of Islam and of the West."

Political Islam was ALWAYS Islamic fundamentalism - myopic, stereotypical, haughty, fascistic, theocratic, vicious, abusive and violent.

The so called "intellectual moorings" was just a sugar coating that was used to hide the mafiaso cult working in the background.

Nadeem...
"Modern Political Islam is closely associated with three central figures: Pakistan's Abul Ala Madudi, Egypt's Syed Qutb and Iran's Ayatullah Khomenini..."
What about the prophet of Pakiland (Pakinadu to Tamils), MAJ?

Nadeem, you are going to get slammed by Indians on this one. :)

This essay is like a Biryani that’s missing rice in it. Paracha starts off with an oxymoronic statement of not being an “enthusiast� but also having a “keen� interest about Kashmir and then goes completely off tangent with a half baked lecture on Islamic Fundamentalism vs Political Islam.

For peripheral observers, there’s hardly a distinction. Organized Islam (fundamental or political) in any way shape of form is a danger to the civilized world, and must be dealt with. If you want to shove Islam in society’s face, be prepared to have something shoved back in yours in return.

an interesting idea. could have been developed better.

Kaal...
You know, the biggest problem of Kashmir from Indian point of view is something very different...
Congress-wallas will say without a moslem majority state indian secularism will be incomplete....
RSS-wallas will say, Kashmir is atoot Anga of Bharat....
Pakis will say- We are ready to loose FATA,NWFP to Talibs and BD to Bangla moslas but not Kashmir to Hindu India. It will be defeat of Islam/Ummah to cede space for Kafirs....
We ordinary Indians, have no association with Kashmir and hardly any affinity for Kashmir apart from tourism...
Everybody is fed-up with it. I realy think, it is time for India to sell Kashmir with some USD$200bn or so to Pakistan and gift 10mn so moslems to Pakistan....
Indian security experts will say, China will create a base there and then it will be easier for China to create trouble in India....

One matter is pretty clear, once Kashmir is transferred to Pakistan, it will be another FATA and hub of jihadi terrorism and Farukh ABdullahs etc.. will try to root in India...
Still there are family members of Jinnah living in India...
That much confidence he had on the promished land for moslems of India!!!!!

Kaal...
You know, the biggest problem of Kashmir from Indian point of view is something very different...
Congress-wallas will say without a moslem majority state indian secularism will be incomplete....
RSS-wallas will say, Kashmir is atoot Anga of Bharat....
Pakis will say- We are ready to loose FATA,NWFP to Talibs and BD to Bangla moslas but not Kashmir to Hindu India. It will be defeat of Islam/Ummah to cede space for Kafirs....
We ordinary Indians, have no association with Kashmir and hardly any affinity for Kashmir apart from tourism...
Everybody is fed-up with it. I realy think, it is time for India to sell Kashmir with some USD$200bn or so to Pakistan and gift 10mn so moslems to Pakistan....
Indian security experts will say, China will create a base there and then it will be easier for China to create trouble in India....

One matter is pretty clear, once Kashmir is transferred to Pakistan, it will be another FATA and hub of jihadi terrorism and Farukh ABdullahs etc.. will try to root in India...
Still there are family members of Jinnah living in India...
That much confidence he had on the promished land for moslems of India!!!!!