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Pakistan Nuclear Scientist on India

With growing tensions between India and Pakistan , streets of Mumbai are lashing with angry voices of 'Revenge'. Media and people living in india are building up pressure on the politicians to take some action. Certainly the full fledge war cannot be an option for both nuclear armed forces of india and pakistan but limited 'hot pursuit' is the talk of the town these days. If suppose Pakistan specially Muridke near Lahore get some aerial attack on Lashkara-i-Tayyaba HQ , what will be Pakistan response. What PAF and Strategic Planning Division will do. Can we able to shot down thier planes. Pakistan top nuclear/missile scientist says that we can even shot drones of US but its upon Government when it will order. I dont know why awaz tv not uploaded this wonderful video so with thanks i am taking it from NaMaan video section as its discuss some 'inner secret' details of Pakistan Nuclear and Missile Programs


Dr. Samar Mubarakmand (born September 17, 1942) is Pakistan's top nuclear scientist, and the Ex Chairman of Pakistan's National Engineering and Scientific Commission(NESCOM), an organization regarded as the country's premier center of scientific research.


He has been awarded Pakistan's three highest civil awards, the Nishan-e-Imtiaz, the Hilal-e-Imtiaz and the Sitara-e-Imtiaz. He rose to national fame in May 1998 when he headed the team of Pakistani scientists which conducted the country's successful nuclear tests in Balochistan.



Dr. Mubarakmand received the M.S. degree in Physics from Government College , Lahore, in 1962, and the Ph.D. in Experimental Nuclear Physics from the University of Oxford, England, in 1966 where he was part of the team which commissioned a 22 million volt atomic accelerator. He has expertise in nuclear instrumentation, nuclear diagnostics, application of lasers, and fibre optics technology.



Dr. Samar Mubarakmand has been associated with a variety of classified scientific programmes in Pakistan. He joined the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) in 1962, where he was in charge of the Directorate of Technical Development, one of the most secretive institutes within Pakistan and completely unknown to the outside world. He reportedly supervised several cold tests in 1983, and also developed a neutron facility for acceleration of explosion process in a nuclear device. In 1990s, he served as the Director General of National Defence Complex, another Pakistani organization shrouded in secrecy. He was appointed as the first Chairman of Pakistan's National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) in 2001. He is now considered the main architect of Pakistan's missile program, which includes systems such as the Babur missile, Shaheen missile series, and the Ghaznavi missile system.



One of his recent landmark achievements is the establishment of Centers of Excellence (COEs) in the fields of Computational Science and Medicine, Control & Instrumentation, Fluid Dynamics & Engineering Design, Hydro Technologies, Wireless Communication, and Electronics and Composite Materials. These COEs are fast becoming the hub of advance scientific and medical activity in Pakistan, conducting research in areas such as stem cells, tissue culture technology, and production of cardiac stents.



Dr. Samar Mubarakmand is widely credited with bringing modernization in the design and development of many components and instruments, which are considered the backbone of Pakistan's nuclear and missile technology.



FORTUNATELY THIS PERSON DID NOT LEAVE PAKISTAN AND REMAINED FAITHFUL TO THE COUNTRY. HE HAS PASSED HIS LIFE IN STRENGTHENING OF PAKISTAN. NATION IS PROUD OF HIM. IN 2003 HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN PAKISTAN WHO WAS AWARDED WITH PAKISTAN'S 3 HIGHEST CIVIL AWARD.






Check his interview with Javed Chaudry on December 3, 2008


http://www.zshare.net/video/522145972cb789fb





Dr. Samar Mubarak discusiing Pakistan first Cruise Missile Babur, being the 3rd country of the world having this technology, check this YouTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OnJLoRhmo

Ok, so jews have an axe to grind you say.. talk is cheap

Here is MJ Akbar....tap dance your way out of this one...


'Pakistan will have to pay a heavy price'

M J Akbar | December 02, 2008 | 16:13 IST

M J Akbar is one of India's best-known journalists and commentators, someone with a deep insight into the Indian people and their mindset. In this first-person, as-told-to piece, Akbar discusses the Mumbai attacks and their relevance for India.

Many people forget that India is a tough nation. Toothless leaders have turned India into a soft nation. People forget that India has fought back Muslim terrorism in Kashmir; Sikh terrorism in Punjab, Christian terrorism in Nagaland and Hindu terrorism in Assam, and amongst the Naxalites.

We have had everything thrown at the Indian nation State. Still, we have stood up. The people of India have shown the courage and ability to believe in their nation and to fight back. But the completely impotent leadership of five years have turned a tough country into a soft State.

I am very sad. I keep feeling that if they protect India as they protect their leaders -- whether it is Prime Minister Manmohan Singh or Congress President Sonia Gandhi -- I think I would be safe. Today, India's leaders are safe and India is in panic.

On what India's response should be:

India's proper reaction would be possible if we understand the extent of the disease.

If the disease is cancer, you can't apply band aid. After making a complete mess of security issues for five years by asking Shivraj Patil to go finally we may have a home minister who doesn't comb his hair and change his clothes. But we want something more than that. If it is cancer, we need chemotherapy, a much more serious exercise. It needs a legislative and executive framework. It needs political mobilisation. People are numbed.

The Indian people have no leadership. You have a prime minister. Did you see him when he addressed the nation? Nobody knew if he was addressing the nation or having a cup of tea?

He looked serious, but he didn't talk to us about our anger and about our anguish. I think this administration is tone deaf to the anguish of the people. They just cannot understand what the people are going through. They just don't understand our pain or our anger. The most important thing is that, perhaps, we have politicised not only the instruments of the State like the police but we have also politicised the understanding of the nature of the problem.

I think the very first thing to do is to ensure security so that it prevents the next attack. If any attack takes place under someones job should go. Don't come to me with alibis.

On the terrorists getting local support:

I am an Indian Muslim and I am very proud of both, being an Indian and a Muslim. I do not see any contradictions. This is my land and I have nowhere else to go.

But can I say because I am an Indian Muslim that no Indian Muslim is involved? Can you, because you are a Hindu, say that no Hindu is involved? We have to behave like Indians first. Not as a Muslim or as a Hindu first. Because we need Hindu votes and Muslim votes and because this government thinks that it needs Muslim votes so it has been in complete denial.

Do you think that these people came across from Pakistan and had no support in Mumbai?

It is not possible. It was a huge operation. Ten people hit nine places and you killed nine of them. You want to say that they went from place to place? Who knows some of them must have slipped away to create new sleeper cells to hit us six months later.

They are hiding things. I would like to believe that there was an underworld connection. Because, Karachi and Mumbai are also linked by drug smuggling. The culture of criminals is aggression. It comes naturally to them. It is not easy for you and I to become aggressive, however angry we are. It does not come naturally to us. These are people who are trained psychologically in aggression. They have no respect for the State. They have no love for the country. And they have no respect for authority.

Why? Because the only face of authority is the corrupt policeman. The criminal gives money in the morning and money in the evening. Why should he have respect for somebody he gives bribes to? For the guy from the underworld his understanding of the Indian State and authority is corruption. He has no patriotism to stop him. Why would he not join hands with the terrorists? In any case, he belongs to another world. We have not even begun to address and discuss this.

On the Pakistan factor

I am tired of giving Pakistan a long rope on some excuse or the other. Everybody is saying this will happen if we do this, that will happen if we do this. Our relations with Pakistan will go, then, let them go. What has our relations with Pakistan brought us except violence and terror? Why should we be in charge of saving Pakistan? For what? Every time they turn around and they say they want evidence. Now, finally we have evidence.

I have been an editor for 35 years from the age of 23. From that time on, since the days of General Zia-ul Haq, I have been hearing 'Pakistan is asking for evidence'. We asked for withdrawal of their support to the movement for Khalistan, they said, 'Oh, we don't know anything about it.' On Kashmir, they kept repeating where is the evidence. Benazir Bhutto came, she asked for evidence. Nawaz Sharif came, he asked for evidence. I think Pervez Musharraf asked for less evidence. Now again, they are asking for evidence.

There is a terrorist in Mumbai, captured and arrested. How much more evidence do you want? If what he is saying is not evidence, then how can you get more evidence?

This government is in its 11th hour. Now they will bluff the people to protect their votes. There is no time left for them. The agony of departure will be hard from this government.

On the reaction in the West

The US and Britain have a vested interest in telling India to look within. Why? When Americans die then they can send their air force 7,000 miles and bomb every country to smithereens. But when Indians die, they tell us no, no, you must be patient. You must act like a swami and a yogi. Why? Is an American life more precious than an Indian life? Why should we keep listening to them? But we have a government that keeps listening to them all the time. We don't get tough.

The last time we got tough was after the attack on Parliament. We took some tough actions under Operation Parakram and then there was a certain lull. Three years ago, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was able to tell President George W Bush that there are no terrorists amongst Indian Muslims. That means that lull continued.

Pakistan must be made to realise that it will have to pay a heavy price. Not necessarily through war, but a heavy price will have to be paid in loss in trade, in cancellation of orders and other engagements. They should pay a heavy price in terms of people to people relations. I am not saying you can freeze a relationship to death, but the message must go out that if there is a crime there will be a penalty. You just can't get away with it.

Let the Pakistan government cooperate with us. But look at how the Pakistan government has buckled down and we are sitting here whimpering.

They want to send some lowly officers to India. For what? Even Pakistan is treating the Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi government with total contempt. They know how weak it is.

Delink Hindu-Muslim relations and Pakistan

Look, you must not confuse the Pakistan issue with the Indian Muslims issue. Their so-called alienation or their economic deprivation is not linked to the issue of Pakistan.

Indian Muslims have nothing to do with Pakistan. They have absolutely no sympathy for Pakistan. They know that Pakistan was the biggest mistake committed in the history of Indian Muslims. They know it. You can ask anyone in Baroda, Bihar or Mumbai. They know how they are suffering the backlash of all the consequences of cross-border terrorism.

Today, they fear retribution from the government, they fear retribution from popular disenchantment and anger. They feel helpless. They feel afraid.

We must understand finally that it is not so much the 'local people', it is the local underworld that is involved in anti-India activities. In 1993, who were involved in terrorism? The underworld. Why have you not done anything about it? The State turns a blind eye to the police and corruption. I don't know how many readers smoke hashish and other stuff, but I am accusing them of cross-border terrorism. Drugs come to India from Afghanistan via Karachi.

What we can do as individuals

If whoever is responsible for protecting the nation fails, then he or she should not be allowed to continue in power. That is the toughest and sharpest message we can give. You can tell that you may be a soft State, but we are a hard people and we are hard voters.

We are not going to forgive you for your lies and deception and for your waffling. How many blasts do we need to understand that? When Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Mumbai and Delhi happened no one who was genuinely guilty was caught.

We have to understand now that corruption has eaten away vitals of this nation. It is the biggest danger to the security of India. It is not just the case of some spectrum being sold to someone by some minister in. Everyone who is corrupt get out!

It Is a failure all around. We have to be extremely practical and pragmatic. There is great deal to be depressed about as an Indian. Frankly speaking, I feel very angry and upset. I am never upset by the behaviour of our enemies. I am only upset by the betrayal of those I trust.

M J Akbar, editor-in-chief, Covert magazine, spoke to Sheela Bhatt

nkg 243, 244
NKG,
Yaar, itna ghussa na kar. Speaking of Maharaja Hari Singh, you know what happened to Harry. Woh bhi tumhari tarha bohot ghussa karta tha. :)

#241 nkg {"SC had already thrown it into garbage"}

nkg,
I am Salim Chauhan and I have not thrown anything like than into the garbage. Please don't lie.

Salim Chauhan (SC)

nkg #245 {"the point of discussion is pakis/moslas, the "international migraine" (Madeline Albright)...we indians are only participants of this forum"}

nkg,
You should have seen Madeline's face on live TV when Jim Baker described global warming as a result of a bunch of fat cows farting. It really appeared that he was referring to her comments as contributing to global warming. So much for her comments.

#248 Posted by CoolAL on December 2, 2008 11:56:15 am
{"Here is Robert Kagan in today's Washington Post"}

Al,
Jewish writers have an axe to grind when it comes to Pakistan - nukes, support for Palestinians, and voting NO on Israel in the UN in 1948. They can be expected to support Pakistan about as impartially as Ahmedis on Chowk.

Pakis and Paki supporters time for glib talking is over. Nobody is buying it. This includes Indian Muslims... I will post M.J. Akbar's article next

Here is Robert Kagan in today's Washington Post

Washington Post. Tuesday, December 2, 2008

Re: # 245

Listen idiotic nkg- your explanation has shown me more about your intellect and exposure to civility than I can point out in my reply. Madlen Albright has her reasons for calling muslims a migrane but Muslims have to look at their interests- if you look inside of yourself then you will find out that India is responsible for a lot of nonsense against muslims and against pakistan- against kashmir- dismembering pakistan by supporting anti state elements in bangladesh- you guys deserve our wrath!

Please sign the petition for better treatment of our commandos�

I was saddened to see how poorly our commandos were trained and equipped. Please sign and pass on to your friends.

Thanks.

Mahesh

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Re: # 211
qyo....
India is not matter of any concern...India is successful democracy and nobody doubts about that ( apart from Paki moslas, who are living in the best form of democracy ( they claim); The beduinocracy....
the point of discussion is pakis/moslas, the "international migraine" (Madeline Albright)...we indians are only participants of this forum. Couple of brits, australians, thais, french, spanish and burmese would have added the proper hue to spectrum....so you beduinoids are getting spared....

Re: # 225
Salim Ch...
Indians behaving as Indian is very normal...if some strange Indian bipeds behave as semi-beduin, they should be dumped into beduin land....whether there is any space available or not....

Re: # 234
Salim....
Yeh, last official ruler of the whole area was Maharaja Hari Singh and he had handed over that land to India...At least India can claim, whatever was under Hari Sing's rule as part of it....
Pakis call it Free (Adaze) Kashmir and put their armed forces in FREE Kashmir, included PoK people into Paki Govt. setup....that is the FREEDOM the PoK is enjoying....

Re: # 234
Salim...
like Israelis should take responsibility of terrorist activities of HAMAS, as there is no separate country called Palestine....

Re: # 208
Shah2...
Srikrishna Commission report has no leagal binding...SC had already thrown it into garbage can...

#238,

Salimbhai, there are two kinds of people who cross the LoC:
- innocent villagers near the border; most of them are illiterate and can not read a map.
- terrorists. They don't do it inadvertently anyway.

So, you see, there's not enough justification for the GoI to undertake the hard work and spending to have its maps redrawn, when there is no change in the official position. You know how lazy our babus are.

As for Pakistan's maps, they have to depict whatever enhances the self-esteem of the Pakistani people. But natural.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree on this one trivial issue :-)

If those are Indian territories surely Pakistanis should have no problem if India decides to get rid of the garbage that has accumulated there.