Shoaib Daniyal November 28, 2008
#190 Posted by nkg on December 1, 2008 12:35:05 am
Re: # 24
dawa....
"Re: # 20 Better life is a very small thing , we Pakistanis can sacrifice our lives and whole Pakistan on one sand grain of Medina and similarly indian muslim can sacrife whole india over Medina...."
Yeh...why don't you guys migrate to the sands of Medina? you will get whole lot of sand there.....and indians are not objecting you guys to live in deserts of Arabia, enjoying the holy sand, holy camel and it's urine,milk, and for males holy female camels.......host of other facilities....
It will be good for both Indians ( including Pakis) and moslems....
dawa....
"Re: # 20 Better life is a very small thing , we Pakistanis can sacrifice our lives and whole Pakistan on one sand grain of Medina and similarly indian muslim can sacrife whole india over Medina...."
Yeh...why don't you guys migrate to the sands of Medina? you will get whole lot of sand there.....and indians are not objecting you guys to live in deserts of Arabia, enjoying the holy sand, holy camel and it's urine,milk, and for males holy female camels.......host of other facilities....
It will be good for both Indians ( including Pakis) and moslems....
#189 Posted by nkg on December 1, 2008 12:23:56 am
Re: # 109
bori...
"....but generally speaking, Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels and lower-paying jobs...."
that is true for British moslems, french moslems, german moslems.......the list is very big....
a joke I can remeber....
Patient: Doctor, wherever I touch it pains....
Doctor: I have to treat your finger....
bori...
"....but generally speaking, Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels and lower-paying jobs...."
that is true for British moslems, french moslems, german moslems.......the list is very big....
a joke I can remeber....
Patient: Doctor, wherever I touch it pains....
Doctor: I have to treat your finger....
#188 Posted by nkg on December 1, 2008 12:15:18 am
Re: # 87
Simon....
"So much so, that he is only too willing to tow the farcical propaganda about Pakistan/ISI behind every leaf and blade of grass in india...."
I have told you stay at your house to watch the heroics of ISAF forces....
Simon....
"So much so, that he is only too willing to tow the farcical propaganda about Pakistan/ISI behind every leaf and blade of grass in india...."
I have told you stay at your house to watch the heroics of ISAF forces....
#187 Posted by nkg on December 1, 2008 12:13:00 am
Re: # 147
Ess...
"I'd imagine that if Khilafat were to be established..."
means biggest stable under Saudi Beduins...would they like to own such a big herd?...it will cost very high...But somehow beduins are now becoming cunning....they are not providing free food to their pet animals (Pakis)....
Ess...
"I'd imagine that if Khilafat were to be established..."
means biggest stable under Saudi Beduins...would they like to own such a big herd?...it will cost very high...But somehow beduins are now becoming cunning....they are not providing free food to their pet animals (Pakis)....
#186 Posted by nkg on November 30, 2008 11:59:28 pm
Re: # 184
Majumder....
You can not avoid stereotyping...people draw conclusion from statistical data and analysis based on the data...islam and moslems have enough of it to avoid it or dislike it...this fellow is loosing nothing by changing a nasty association....
after couple of dog bites and attack on children by stray dogs, BMC (Bangalore Municipal Corporation) decided to cull stray dogs...it was very bad...almost everybody was against it...but it was the most feasible solution bangalore municipal corporation thought of....
Majumder....
You can not avoid stereotyping...people draw conclusion from statistical data and analysis based on the data...islam and moslems have enough of it to avoid it or dislike it...this fellow is loosing nothing by changing a nasty association....
after couple of dog bites and attack on children by stray dogs, BMC (Bangalore Municipal Corporation) decided to cull stray dogs...it was very bad...almost everybody was against it...but it was the most feasible solution bangalore municipal corporation thought of....
#185 Posted by nkg on November 30, 2008 11:51:43 pm
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#184 Posted by majumdar on November 30, 2008 11:49:33 pm
Nkg moshai,
There is no reason for Shoaib or anyone else to change his religion for your benefit
Regards
There is no reason for Shoaib or anyone else to change his religion for your benefit
Regards
#183 Posted by nkg on November 30, 2008 11:47:34 pm
Re: # 178
Zeena(h)...
Indians are not bombing anybody....It is the moslems, who are doing it everywhere....
Mr. Shoiab, if want to live a decent life, why you want to associate yourself with something very nasty...islam or moslems do not have great history in india and accross the world...so, if a landlord, for pre-cautionary measure, wants to avoid moslas, it is not his problem...why don't you change your name and be sikh or christian or buddhist? why to stick to medieval arab barbarism?
Zeena(h)...
Indians are not bombing anybody....It is the moslems, who are doing it everywhere....
Mr. Shoiab, if want to live a decent life, why you want to associate yourself with something very nasty...islam or moslems do not have great history in india and accross the world...so, if a landlord, for pre-cautionary measure, wants to avoid moslas, it is not his problem...why don't you change your name and be sikh or christian or buddhist? why to stick to medieval arab barbarism?
#182 Posted by ranjit_patil on November 30, 2008 11:11:23 pm
Sorry for spelling mistake..
Mr Shoib Change ur religion than changing ur name...
All ur brothers across the world are supporting terrorits..
There is no basic human rights to minority in any muslim nation ....
Mr Shoib Change ur religion than changing ur name...
All ur brothers across the world are supporting terrorits..
There is no basic human rights to minority in any muslim nation ....
#181 Posted by ranjit_patil on November 30, 2008 11:08:29 pm
Re: # 178 Hi Zeena ..when did Indian killed pakistanis..
Please let me know..this is smart way to sideline main issue...
Please let me know..this is smart way to sideline main issue...
#180 Posted by ranjit_patil on November 30, 2008 11:06:45 pm
Mr..Shoib...Change ur religion than changing ur religion...
All ur brothers across the world are supporting terrorits..
There is basic human rights to minority in any muslim nation
All ur brothers across the world are supporting terrorits..
There is basic human rights to minority in any muslim nation
#179 Posted by Sanatani on November 30, 2008 9:16:40 pm
Re: # 177
Really. Go to Chennai go to Thiruvallikeni and then the police station there. Look for a case registered in June 1999 against Rahimathullah and others for rioting.
The provocation was that when the news of mutiliation of Capt Kalia and his jawans came out and there was intense anger one person Naidu said at a tea stall these Pakistanis are pigs first in Tamil then in Hindi for our benefit. Before we could understand we were pounced upon by a mob of muslais led by the said person for calling people of a Mulsim nation as pigs. (Remember Thriuvallikeni is the only muslai majority area in Chennai). We fought back but more and more muslais joined only however the fact that the police came ASAP restored peace. Naidu was slashed 3 or 4 times across his face and body with an ice pick which thankfully was a bit blunt.
The said Rahimathullah had a son Karimathullah who used to work for gasp Infosys and was waylaid by Naidus caste men and killed. The case is still doing the rounds of Chennai courts and was tried to be revoked by DMK government twice but their lawyer so botched up the case (some say intentionally) that the HC intervened to say trial will continue.
This is Indian Muslims for you.
When muslais are taught that anything that the Hindus do for you is their right as a tithe and that at all times they must show solidarity with the Ummah you will get reactions like these.
Indian muslai may reject Pak today but they along with the Banglas are the original progenitors of TNT.
We continue to fool ourselves and gloss over our leaders mistakes and repeat them over and over again a la BJ2.
The fact we did not have an exchange of population in 1947 would prove costly for us in the long run.
It has taken all of my self control to be civil to you while writing this. Hopefully you will not end up as a lunatic like the muslais and BJ.
Best Regards
Sanatani
Really. Go to Chennai go to Thiruvallikeni and then the police station there. Look for a case registered in June 1999 against Rahimathullah and others for rioting.
The provocation was that when the news of mutiliation of Capt Kalia and his jawans came out and there was intense anger one person Naidu said at a tea stall these Pakistanis are pigs first in Tamil then in Hindi for our benefit. Before we could understand we were pounced upon by a mob of muslais led by the said person for calling people of a Mulsim nation as pigs. (Remember Thriuvallikeni is the only muslai majority area in Chennai). We fought back but more and more muslais joined only however the fact that the police came ASAP restored peace. Naidu was slashed 3 or 4 times across his face and body with an ice pick which thankfully was a bit blunt.
The said Rahimathullah had a son Karimathullah who used to work for gasp Infosys and was waylaid by Naidus caste men and killed. The case is still doing the rounds of Chennai courts and was tried to be revoked by DMK government twice but their lawyer so botched up the case (some say intentionally) that the HC intervened to say trial will continue.
This is Indian Muslims for you.
When muslais are taught that anything that the Hindus do for you is their right as a tithe and that at all times they must show solidarity with the Ummah you will get reactions like these.
Indian muslai may reject Pak today but they along with the Banglas are the original progenitors of TNT.
We continue to fool ourselves and gloss over our leaders mistakes and repeat them over and over again a la BJ2.
The fact we did not have an exchange of population in 1947 would prove costly for us in the long run.
It has taken all of my self control to be civil to you while writing this. Hopefully you will not end up as a lunatic like the muslais and BJ.
Best Regards
Sanatani
#178 Posted by Zeena on November 30, 2008 8:27:59 pm
Both India and Pakistan have had been bomb blasting each others citizens to destabilize each other.....LOL
Both India and Pakistan are burning each other alive to destroy each other...LOL
Both India and Pakistan are targeting their economy hubs like Karachi/Mumbai....LOL
Both India and Pakistan are trying their best to make each other failed states....LOL
Now Europe,North America(Canada/USA), Australia are living in peace and harmony where all of them respect each others economical boomings and respect each others citizens lives.......
They do everything possible to make their countries peaceful and to disrupt India/Pakistan at any cost....LOL
When will India/Pakistan wake up? When will India/Pakistan learn?
Not in my life time.....tsk,tsk,tsk
So, being the super power ( soon to be), India should behave as a super power in this region and just quit bombing Pakistani innocent citizens...........in return India will get prosperity , peace and harmony with Pakistan. India should quit dancing on others tunes, just quit acting moronishly, start acting smartly......
Both India and Pakistan are burning each other alive to destroy each other...LOL
Both India and Pakistan are targeting their economy hubs like Karachi/Mumbai....LOL
Both India and Pakistan are trying their best to make each other failed states....LOL
Now Europe,North America(Canada/USA), Australia are living in peace and harmony where all of them respect each others economical boomings and respect each others citizens lives.......
They do everything possible to make their countries peaceful and to disrupt India/Pakistan at any cost....LOL
When will India/Pakistan wake up? When will India/Pakistan learn?
Not in my life time.....tsk,tsk,tsk
So, being the super power ( soon to be), India should behave as a super power in this region and just quit bombing Pakistani innocent citizens...........in return India will get prosperity , peace and harmony with Pakistan. India should quit dancing on others tunes, just quit acting moronishly, start acting smartly......
#177 Posted by laddu on November 30, 2008 6:48:36 pm
The news about the terrorists being Pakistanis was aired more by the channels and was NOT accepted by the government for a long time. Infact, all questions to government about this were given with studied silence and couched in vague ways.
The reality of this denial by educated pakis is because you represent the filth of the earth and you are responsible for terrorism on a global scale. You carry your hate filled ideolog of TNT up your sleeves wherever you go. Your idea of Pakistan was based on the TNT ideology of HATE- i.e. muslims and hindus cannot live together.
And when you see successful indian muslims - you hate them because it a direct falsification of the ideology of Pakistan - i.e. hindus and muslims cannot live together for so long.
Hindus and indian muslims have come up with a mutual understanding now after so many years and Paistani muslims hate them for NOT accepting their call to jehad.
That is why YOU fake yourselves as Indian muslims so that hindus attack indian muslims in retaliation.
The reality of this denial by educated pakis is because you represent the filth of the earth and you are responsible for terrorism on a global scale. You carry your hate filled ideolog of TNT up your sleeves wherever you go. Your idea of Pakistan was based on the TNT ideology of HATE- i.e. muslims and hindus cannot live together.
And when you see successful indian muslims - you hate them because it a direct falsification of the ideology of Pakistan - i.e. hindus and muslims cannot live together for so long.
Hindus and indian muslims have come up with a mutual understanding now after so many years and Paistani muslims hate them for NOT accepting their call to jehad.
That is why YOU fake yourselves as Indian muslims so that hindus attack indian muslims in retaliation.
#176 Posted by laddu on November 30, 2008 6:17:01 pm
The problem is that Indian Muslims have rejected the Paki idea of modern day-Dawah i.e. the call for accepting their TNT. Consequently, they consider successful and educated Indian muslims like Shoaib etc. as a direct affront to their ideology of Pakistan.
Thus, all Pakistani muslims HATE Indian muslims. Even murtids like Hamid scoff at indian muslims. That is why they believe when a Pakistani Jehadi from Karachi kills hindus and other indians pretending to be muslims from "hyderabad-deccan" .
Pakistanis want to be like indian muslims (and that is a well known secret that they want to be "DESIS") and are tremendously jealous of them - their hatred for indian muslims is even more intense than their hatred for evil-hindoos that is taught in their Islamiyat. That is why the Karachi-Terror-Kid killed indian muslims inside Taj but let the Turkish-muslim couple go unsacathed.
PAkistanis hate Indian muslims. Period. So much so that they are even more than willing to use the good will of indian muslims towards them by making them accessories to their perverse jehad.
But 26/11 would change it all . I think now educated indian muslims like Shoaib have realized the evil designs of Pakistanis against them who want them to be embroiled in riots and their idea of Jehad against non-muslims.
Indian muslims DO NOT want pretenders to their faith come from the rejected land called Pakistan and fight for them. Sorry, it is not their idea of fight. Sorry, it is not their idea of Jehad. Sorry, it is not their idea of Islam.
Thus, all Pakistani muslims HATE Indian muslims. Even murtids like Hamid scoff at indian muslims. That is why they believe when a Pakistani Jehadi from Karachi kills hindus and other indians pretending to be muslims from "hyderabad-deccan" .
Pakistanis want to be like indian muslims (and that is a well known secret that they want to be "DESIS") and are tremendously jealous of them - their hatred for indian muslims is even more intense than their hatred for evil-hindoos that is taught in their Islamiyat. That is why the Karachi-Terror-Kid killed indian muslims inside Taj but let the Turkish-muslim couple go unsacathed.
PAkistanis hate Indian muslims. Period. So much so that they are even more than willing to use the good will of indian muslims towards them by making them accessories to their perverse jehad.
But 26/11 would change it all . I think now educated indian muslims like Shoaib have realized the evil designs of Pakistanis against them who want them to be embroiled in riots and their idea of Jehad against non-muslims.
Indian muslims DO NOT want pretenders to their faith come from the rejected land called Pakistan and fight for them. Sorry, it is not their idea of fight. Sorry, it is not their idea of Jehad. Sorry, it is not their idea of Islam.
#175 Posted by harimau on November 30, 2008 5:58:36 pm
Ref Salim_Chauhan #153
[Essensaur,
You bring up an excellent point about the Khilafat or Caliphate as a potential clearing house for Islamic matters. That is exactly the reason why the leaders in Medina came up with the concept. .....
Yes, such an office could be resurrected. But again, how do you convince the Soodis, the Egyptians, and some of the well-off absolute monarchies like Kuwait, UAE, and Oman to be subjected to a superior body? Perhaps others could discuss in more detail. Good thought on your part, though.]
I guess before an accused adultress in Afghanistan could send her appeal to the Caliph in Cairo, she would have been stoned to death by a mob!
Even electronic communication is not as fast as a stone thrown at one's head.
[Essensaur,
You bring up an excellent point about the Khilafat or Caliphate as a potential clearing house for Islamic matters. That is exactly the reason why the leaders in Medina came up with the concept. .....
Yes, such an office could be resurrected. But again, how do you convince the Soodis, the Egyptians, and some of the well-off absolute monarchies like Kuwait, UAE, and Oman to be subjected to a superior body? Perhaps others could discuss in more detail. Good thought on your part, though.]
I guess before an accused adultress in Afghanistan could send her appeal to the Caliph in Cairo, she would have been stoned to death by a mob!
Even electronic communication is not as fast as a stone thrown at one's head.
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