An Indian Muslim

Shoaib, indian muslims are the life and blood of India. I hope that as the indian electorate matures, genuinely right winged parties ala GOP of USA will emerge which will have none of the hindutva stuff as their ideology.

I also believe that if there s place where islam will undergo renaissance like the european one , it will be India. Why? India is the only country where over a big muslim population lives under an astonishingly liberal sanvidhaan.In turkey, they are secular but their secularism is fanatical.In iran, they are religious but their piety is fanatical and distorted.


PS: i have not met many middle class muslims and always feel delighted on knowing about indian-muslim success stories like urs....May god bless you

n one thing more pa je, your artical is a part of HUMOUR section. Humour kithy way??????

n one thing more pa je, your artical is a part of HUMOUR section. Humour kithy way??????

n one thing more pa je, your artical is a part of HUMOUR section. Humour kithy way??????

Pa je your article cm letter was good but i didnt get one thing,you are addressing 'the brainwashed', 'spineless' people,is it of any good? i dont know much about terrorists, but one thing is for sure, if they do not believe in peace, they automaticaly step out of the relms of islam.Islam means peace.if someone is able to prove his identity, being related to Pakistan(GOD FORBID)then....... woh kia kaHA HY PERVEEN SHAKIR NY ,
BAAT TU SUCH HY, MGR BAAT HY RUSVIE KE.

Re: # 262
Mr. beduin follower, can you please enlighten, what is the Institutionalised Injustise moslems are facing in India?

Is it the Huzz Subsidy?
Is it the separate personal law?
Is it Govt. sponsoring islamic institutions (Madressahs), which works against the concept of India?
Is it special recruitment quota in AP and Tamilnadu for moslems?
Is it that inclusion of moslems in OBC list?

And what is this custom in Kolkata to Get soil from BROTHEL begore installing DURAG MAI for DURGA PUJA

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NKG pora Pocha Nogra
NKG the nogra pocha

The Bengalis are the hunger striken filthy skinny pthysic chested useless penpushing bank employees clerks .Where they cant work they start union supposedly controlling labou instead of Producing or able to work with static activity and muscle .name on bangali regiment and defender of borders .

VivekaNanda Gay Partener was Ram Krishna ,Bengalis are abnormal that they dont marry very common among them m Bidhan Rioy ,Ajoy Mukherjee .And many Bangali think its the way o0f life It Is if you are Gay Not that there is any thing wrong withit .

Out billion the largest numder of MARGINISLED peope living in Dhravi Lke Conditionar hindu majority .There are 990 milions hindu indian poorer than Sikhs Christian AND MUSLIMS .


For there numbers there more muslims I.A.S IFS I.P.S competed candidated


hindus majority good for is wallas ...Business cloth ganji Dhoti selling wallas ...not as many intellectual consistent of ther HUGE number !

Re: # 257

'Blacks in the US have fought their way against institutionalized injustices'

You must be totally insane deluded to compare youself ..hindian to( white ' not color but race Anglo Saxon .



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Re: # 258
Pew...

Shankar must have been ditched by concept of Islamic BrotherHood...

Shankar, it is applied for sisters of mosla brothers ... QoRun permits having s** with sister...that way BortherHood....

Regarding non islamic interpretation of brotherhood, every year people die in Karachi in street fighting between UP/Bihari migrants and rest of the people...I have not aware of such problem in Gujrat or Mumbai related to Sindhis....

Re: # 257
dev...
"Cause and effect can be debated, but once you tell your boss that you want quit you can't complain that you didn't get a raise...."

All these apply to human society...not on moslems....the thumb rule is it, the beduin followers have to get all the resources,services..., wherever they live. Whether it is Pakiland or India or Thailand.....every body have to adjust with 7th century arabic way of life, wherever you stay (London, Mumbai, Bankok, New York, or Islam-a-Bad...)....you should not ask why? as this is what the arabic moon god revealed to his preferred beduin and everybody has to follow it....wherever the beduin followers are majority create nuicense to others and turn civilized population into extinctinction ( Iran, Pakistan, Egypt...)...wherever beduin followers are minority create problem to majority people ( India, Philipines, Thailand, Mynmar, UK, France...) and ask for everything separate....

It is not india's problem alone...it is universal problem...
Don't treat Paki allegation against India seriously.....

Re: # 255
dawa-deal-.....
...agreed. Pakistan is very advanced country in terms of technology etc...but then, why don't you use that for conventional war? why you have to resort to islamic war (using arms hiding behind civilians or killing un-armed civilians)?

Re: # 117 Shankar

"Out of curiosity, is an Indian muslim able to migrate to Pakistan today, if he/she wants to?"

Negative. Can't anymore. That right to migrate based upon religion went away more than 50 years ago. Since your question specifically asked regarding 'Indian Muslim' (as opposed to 'Indian', I assume that you are referring to right to migrate post- Partition. The irony is that even Bihari Muslims who went to East Pakistan in '47 and wanted to migrate to (West) Pakistan in '71 are denied entry. Just do a Google search on 'Bihari Muslim Bangladesh'

The rosy picture that Romair painted for you was misleading because he never touched the crux of your question.
Ciao

Re: # 28

Many of your posts cite Gujarat riots and the injustices done to Muslims as if that is the norm, some kind of a daily routine in the life of Indian muslims.. that 7 year old girls basically wake up to molested by evil policemen. It is as ridiculous a portrayal as saying that every Indian muslim starts his day thinking which train can he burn down/bomb or for which ISI trained terrorist he can buy SIM cards.

I've never been to Pakistan so my only knowledge of how good it is to its citizens is based on various UN reports on things like human development, female literacy, religious freedom etc. And I don't think it is in the top third in the world in any index of consequence (much like India), so utopia for anybody, it is not.

India is a over populated country with limited resources with massive institutional problems that lead to many groups being marginalized and downtrodden. There are vast many groups that have never even come into any position of influence (let alone ruling vast parts of country for a couple of centuries). Muslims are among these marginalized sections of the society in many places, but they are not alone. Most of these downtrodden groups fight everyday to overcome these injustices, but with muslims the problem gets magnified because of external influences and the presence of powerful entities all around telling them that they alone are being mistreated and an utopia can be there if they are ruled by fellow Muslims (yeah.. right.. look at at Saudi or Iran and the life of a common muslim there.. All you are free to do is pray, I guess. If you're a girl who wants to wear jeans, then? You don't deserve to be free??) 56 freedom movements by Muslims in India is not just a reflection of Hindu 'atrocities', but also of the mentality of the people in those movements who cannot work within the concept of India. If India struggles to help people even those who try to work within its framework, imagine what happens to people who want to secede. Cause and effect can be debated, but once you tell your boss that you want quit you can't complain that you didn't get a raise.

Btw, people who feel so much for the plight of Indian muslims should probably walk the talk and fund schools that provide regular scientific education to the oppressed masses as opposed to institutions that focus on byhearting a 1300 year old scripture.

Finally, there is something different about being a minority in any country. If you've enjoyed being in the majority all you life, you probably cannot relate to this. As a minority you have to continue to fight for your opportunities and chip away at the status quo, but it is infinitely silly to fight for secession. The very demand for secession antagonizes even moderates among the majority and accords a strong 'outsider' status to the minority. Once this feeling sets in the chances of equal opportunity for the minority are as bleak as the prospects of having a Hindu prime minister in Pakistan :-) We can't expect one section of the population to be magnanimous while we ourselves act in such narrow-minded way.

Blacks in the US have fought their way against institutionalized injustices because they realized the value of education and because they had a few very smart leaders (MLK Jr etc.) who saw that the best way is to integrate with the rest, involve the moderates on the other side and vigorously claim their rights within the framework of the constitution. Some of their ideas can be adapted to Indian conditions for Indian Muslims to demand and achieve more resources for themselves. If Muslim leaders realize the opportunity and demand better education and job opportunities for their own ('Drop our Haj subsidy and use that money build 10 schools in our neighborhoods' or some such thing) as opposed to going around warning people that they'll get blown up if Babri masjid is not rebuilt or if some part of the country is not allowed to secede, then the next 10-20 years for Indian Muslims will be better than the last 10-20.

But I don't think that the community has the kind of leaders who inspire them to look ahead and work constructively for their own good.

Re: # 253
Cool Guy

mr,Akbar is good writer being editor of major news paper telegraph India,He is life long Cngressite during Rajiv Gandhi he reached highest importence.

Just b/c he is Muslim and good with words his word is not talisman for many .Talking of opinion some have there own opinion



you can add this to your thinking loud in idle time .For the dead and families its meaningless who did it how & why

Hindu Zionists behind Mumbai Attacks - Zaid Hamid


Written by Inam Abidi Amrohvi · December 03, 2008 · 798




I felt that a section of the Indian media acted a little immature by linking the terrorists to Pakistan even before the official word. Playing to the gallery gets you TRPs but doesn’t help the greater cause. Agreed the men came from Pakistan (as shared by the government later) but the country is itself fighting the same monster. It’s high time that we work together on countering this threat together rather than play the age old blame game. If Pakistan is serious we will get closer to the people who masterminded the Mumbai carnage. And for that it needs to do more than just mere assurances.

Replying to the Indian claims of the terrorists coming from Pakistan, a TV channel (News One) there has come up with its own weird conspiracy theory. I couldn’t watch the entire programme as it was too far fetched to digest and in a way mocked the sacrifices of some very brave men.

The video features Zaid Hamid. Hamid is an idependent Pakistani security expert and also the founder of BrassTacks - a Pakistani Think Tank devoted to the study of regional and global political events and their influence on Pakistan. He comes from a military background having signed up as a volunteer in the Afghan war. His jihadi roots speaks for his biased opinions and weird logic. On a lighter note he is a good entertainer with his kind of imagination.

Have a look-

http://www.brasstacks.pk/brasstacks/Default.aspx?TabId=159

What can I say other than we have to shed aside our differences if we are to fight a common enemy. The electronic media needs to be more restrained in their approach. Such telecasts only fuel the fire.

It saddens me to see India’s name amongst the 20 most dangerous places to visit by the UK’s Telegraph. Needless to mention the millions we will lose because of tourists shying away. And we share space with Pakistan on that list. I’m sure the Pakistanis too feel the same!

Let’s find solutions rather than faults!

Pakistan Nuclear Scientist on India

With growing tensions between India and Pakistan , streets of Mumbai are lashing with angry voices of 'Revenge'. Media and people living in india are building up pressure on the politicians to take some action. Certainly the full fledge war cannot be an option for both nuclear armed forces of india and pakistan but limited 'hot pursuit' is the talk of the town these days. If suppose Pakistan specially Muridke near Lahore get some aerial attack on Lashkara-i-Tayyaba HQ , what will be Pakistan response. What PAF and Strategic Planning Division will do. Can we able to shot down thier planes. Pakistan top nuclear/missile scientist says that we can even shot drones of US but its upon Government when it will order. I dont know why awaz tv not uploaded this wonderful video so with thanks i am taking it from NaMaan video section as its discuss some 'inner secret' details of Pakistan Nuclear and Missile Programs


Dr. Samar Mubarakmand (born September 17, 1942) is Pakistan's top nuclear scientist, and the Ex Chairman of Pakistan's National Engineering and Scientific Commission(NESCOM), an organization regarded as the country's premier center of scientific research.


He has been awarded Pakistan's three highest civil awards, the Nishan-e-Imtiaz, the Hilal-e-Imtiaz and the Sitara-e-Imtiaz. He rose to national fame in May 1998 when he headed the team of Pakistani scientists which conducted the country's successful nuclear tests in Balochistan.



Dr. Mubarakmand received the M.S. degree in Physics from Government College , Lahore, in 1962, and the Ph.D. in Experimental Nuclear Physics from the University of Oxford, England, in 1966 where he was part of the team which commissioned a 22 million volt atomic accelerator. He has expertise in nuclear instrumentation, nuclear diagnostics, application of lasers, and fibre optics technology.



Dr. Samar Mubarakmand has been associated with a variety of classified scientific programmes in Pakistan. He joined the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) in 1962, where he was in charge of the Directorate of Technical Development, one of the most secretive institutes within Pakistan and completely unknown to the outside world. He reportedly supervised several cold tests in 1983, and also developed a neutron facility for acceleration of explosion process in a nuclear device. In 1990s, he served as the Director General of National Defence Complex, another Pakistani organization shrouded in secrecy. He was appointed as the first Chairman of Pakistan's National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) in 2001. He is now considered the main architect of Pakistan's missile program, which includes systems such as the Babur missile, Shaheen missile series, and the Ghaznavi missile system.



One of his recent landmark achievements is the establishment of Centers of Excellence (COEs) in the fields of Computational Science and Medicine, Control & Instrumentation, Fluid Dynamics & Engineering Design, Hydro Technologies, Wireless Communication, and Electronics and Composite Materials. These COEs are fast becoming the hub of advance scientific and medical activity in Pakistan, conducting research in areas such as stem cells, tissue culture technology, and production of cardiac stents.



Dr. Samar Mubarakmand is widely credited with bringing modernization in the design and development of many components and instruments, which are considered the backbone of Pakistan's nuclear and missile technology.



FORTUNATELY THIS PERSON DID NOT LEAVE PAKISTAN AND REMAINED FAITHFUL TO THE COUNTRY. HE HAS PASSED HIS LIFE IN STRENGTHENING OF PAKISTAN. NATION IS PROUD OF HIM. IN 2003 HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN PAKISTAN WHO WAS AWARDED WITH PAKISTAN'S 3 HIGHEST CIVIL AWARD.






Check his interview with Javed Chaudry on December 3, 2008


http://www.zshare.net/video/522145972cb789fb





Dr. Samar Mubarak discusiing Pakistan first Cruise Missile Babur, being the 3rd country of the world having this technology, check this YouTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OnJLoRhmo