Maloy K Dhar December 12, 2008
#6 Posted by bittersweetmojo on December 18, 2008 6:19:41 pm
Mr. Dhar,
There are better things in this context to write about than merely investing your crude brain energy on fluffy paragraphs full of rhetorics. Come on, man! Either come up with something worth reading and discussing or get over it, really!..I mean, REALLY!
P.S: By the way, aren't you self-illusioned about urslf with the so-called 'portrayal of a nationalist Bhagat Singh'?...No, no...I am serious. Are you or are you not?
-E
There are better things in this context to write about than merely investing your crude brain energy on fluffy paragraphs full of rhetorics. Come on, man! Either come up with something worth reading and discussing or get over it, really!..I mean, REALLY!
P.S: By the way, aren't you self-illusioned about urslf with the so-called 'portrayal of a nationalist Bhagat Singh'?...No, no...I am serious. Are you or are you not?
-E
#5 Posted by nkg on December 15, 2008 3:35:36 am
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#4 Posted by nkg on December 15, 2008 3:34:09 am
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GF....
everything is OK, but Pakistan is not finding a single cricket team to tour its soil....
GF....
everything is OK, but Pakistan is not finding a single cricket team to tour its soil....
#3 Posted by zeejah on December 13, 2008 5:36:56 pm
some more information to get angry about!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/12/mumbai-arundhati-roy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/12/mumbai-arundhati-roy
#2 Posted by jayp on December 12, 2008 8:57:16 pm
Maloy,
Pakistan has no legal system that can prosecute criminals, no terrorist has been ever sent to prison in pakistan, a few have been handed over to the americans in return for money.
The options for India are clear, and shoudl wait so that indoian actions result in fragmentation of pakistan.
Most of the mumbai terrorists are from punjab, and clearly, punjab should retain the name of pakistan.
India should wait for muhajirs to become an adequate force.
At present paki army is moving the jihadis to sindh to control the mohajirs. Now indi should help the mohajirs and in another five years time, pakistan can be resized.
Like in 1971, we should only resize pakistan, dividing pakistan, fragmenting it etc are bad, just re-size it.
Pakistan has no legal system that can prosecute criminals, no terrorist has been ever sent to prison in pakistan, a few have been handed over to the americans in return for money.
The options for India are clear, and shoudl wait so that indoian actions result in fragmentation of pakistan.
Most of the mumbai terrorists are from punjab, and clearly, punjab should retain the name of pakistan.
India should wait for muhajirs to become an adequate force.
At present paki army is moving the jihadis to sindh to control the mohajirs. Now indi should help the mohajirs and in another five years time, pakistan can be resized.
Like in 1971, we should only resize pakistan, dividing pakistan, fragmenting it etc are bad, just re-size it.
#1 Posted by Goldfinger on December 12, 2008 5:06:45 am
Long senseless rambling drivel...the same ridiculous accusations, the same delusions to grandeur...pointing fingers and forgetting that every time you do so three of your fingers are pointing to your own self...most probably this is so because in India at one time, lacking fighting skills as ever, a Hindu cult was in the ascendancy, commtitting the worst serial killings ever known to man. The cult's practices came to be known as Thugee, and they committed some of history's most lurid crimes and guiles by enticing travellers to be murdered. Looks like that ancient art is still being practiced today, because the thugs (of India) can perform all the thuggery in the world that they wish to perform and while doing so appear very innocent and angelic to every one...as Shakespeare said "Look like the innocent flower–be the serpent underneath it“, or as the thugs might gleefully say themselves “baghal main choori, moonh peh Ram Ram�. Being the brood of their notorious ancestors, they are trying to prove to the world that they are innocent victims of terror, though themselves rousing all evil winds in the neighborhood—from helping Mukti Bahini in Bangladesh to the bombing in Bori Bazaar in Karachi two decades ago; to RAW supporting the BLA; to the Islamabad Marriott destruction, the blasts in Peshawar, to providing the TTP with weapons....in between they managed to have gotten the Chinese to badly kick their rear ends, but have succeeded bullying smaller countries in the neighborhood like Sri Lanka, Maldives and Nepal. They have only managed stalemates against the much smaller Pakistan, (1971 being due more to Pakistan's self destruct mode than anything great from the Indi's, as ever), which is no sign of greatness or smallness of the Thugs...How pathetic...What a bunch of angels!
www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/000322.html
"In 1816, an article appeared in the Madras Literary Gazette, authored by Dr. Robert C. Sherwood. Sherwood, like Sleeman, was well-versed in Hinduism, and had gotten wind of a mysterious society of assassins from a gang of suspects who had been arrested and then released by an unbelieving judge in Madras in 1815. Sherwood’s article was the first major testimony confirming the existence of a cult which committed murder in the name of Kali, and it attracted Sleeman’s immediate attention. Among other things, Sherwood wrote:
While Europeans have journeyed through the extensive territories subject to the Government of Fort St. George, with a degree of security nowhere surpassed, the path of the native traveler has been beset with perils little known or suspected, into which numbers annually falling, have mysteriously disappeared, the victims of villains as subtle, rapacious and cruel as any who are to be met with in the records of human depravity. The Phansigars, or stranglers, are thus designated from the Hindustani word Phansi a noose. In the more northern parts of India, these murderers are called Thugs, signifying deceivers: in the Tamul language, they are called Ari Tulucar, or Mussulman noosers: in Canarese, Tanti Calleru, implying thieves, who use a wire or cat-gut noose…. Skilled in the arts of deception, Phansigars enter into conversation and insinuate themselves, by obsequious attentions, into the confidence of travelers of all descriptions…. When the Phansigars determine to attack a traveler, they usually propose to him, under the specious plea of mutual safety or for the sake of society, to travel together and on arriving at a convenient place and a fit opportunity presenting … one of the gang puts a rope or sash round the neck of the unfortunate persons, while others assist in depriving him of his life.
Thus an account of the Thugs, as they came to be known, and Thugee, their body of secret beliefs and practices, was first made available to outsiders. Perhaps not surprisingly, the account was all but ignored by British officialdom. Who could give credence to such extravagant rumors? And even if there was an element of truth to them, surely this was a matter for the Indians to resolve among themselves."
The cult's presiding deity was Kali the destructive manifestation of Shiva's consort Parvati.
www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/000322.html
"In 1816, an article appeared in the Madras Literary Gazette, authored by Dr. Robert C. Sherwood. Sherwood, like Sleeman, was well-versed in Hinduism, and had gotten wind of a mysterious society of assassins from a gang of suspects who had been arrested and then released by an unbelieving judge in Madras in 1815. Sherwood’s article was the first major testimony confirming the existence of a cult which committed murder in the name of Kali, and it attracted Sleeman’s immediate attention. Among other things, Sherwood wrote:
While Europeans have journeyed through the extensive territories subject to the Government of Fort St. George, with a degree of security nowhere surpassed, the path of the native traveler has been beset with perils little known or suspected, into which numbers annually falling, have mysteriously disappeared, the victims of villains as subtle, rapacious and cruel as any who are to be met with in the records of human depravity. The Phansigars, or stranglers, are thus designated from the Hindustani word Phansi a noose. In the more northern parts of India, these murderers are called Thugs, signifying deceivers: in the Tamul language, they are called Ari Tulucar, or Mussulman noosers: in Canarese, Tanti Calleru, implying thieves, who use a wire or cat-gut noose…. Skilled in the arts of deception, Phansigars enter into conversation and insinuate themselves, by obsequious attentions, into the confidence of travelers of all descriptions…. When the Phansigars determine to attack a traveler, they usually propose to him, under the specious plea of mutual safety or for the sake of society, to travel together and on arriving at a convenient place and a fit opportunity presenting … one of the gang puts a rope or sash round the neck of the unfortunate persons, while others assist in depriving him of his life.
Thus an account of the Thugs, as they came to be known, and Thugee, their body of secret beliefs and practices, was first made available to outsiders. Perhaps not surprisingly, the account was all but ignored by British officialdom. Who could give credence to such extravagant rumors? And even if there was an element of truth to them, surely this was a matter for the Indians to resolve among themselves."
The cult's presiding deity was Kali the destructive manifestation of Shiva's consort Parvati.
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