World Bank Help For Pakistan’s Education – A Poisoned Chalice?

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"It turns out that the answer, according to Gandhi, is NEVER. During World War II, Gandhi penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender to the Nazis.

Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife,� he said. “They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.�

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Re: # 60

Since you ask humbly (let me assume that pleeeease), yes PBUH (peace be upon him) is used for Muhammad (pbuh) for a very good reason explained in the Qur'an.

Proof:

Verily, God and His angels bless the Prophet: [hence,] O you who have attained to faith, bless him and give yourselves up [to his guidance] in utter self-surrender! (33:56)

Just for the sake of understanding fellow man better (and not through BBC/CNN), do go through a translation of the (you guessed it) the Qur'an.

Do let me know if you wish to read the Book in your mother tongue; I just might be able to send you a copy.

By the way, Muslims use PBUH exclusively for Muhammad (pbuh) and it is abbreviated as SAW (in Arabic: May Allah bless him and grant him peace).

Life is full of suprises.

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Then there are many more (a sample is given below) if you search the word 'blessings':

For, all who pay heed unto God and the Apostle shall be among those upon whom God has bestowed His blessings: the prophets, and those who never deviated from the truth, and those who [with their lives] bore witness to the truth, and the righteous ones: and how goodly a company are these! (4:69)

Whoever rallies to a good cause shall have a share in its blessings;103 and whoever rallies to an evil cause shall be answerable for his part in it: for, indeed, God watches over everything. (4:85)

Pervez,

You are a reasonable man, thank god the world bank is not supporting infrastructure development for education in swat, where mostr girls schools are blown up and others are cionverted to madrassas. Thsi is going to happen in all through pakistan. At present schools are convertedd to cattel shed by the local zamindars.

Pakistan is a case of failure of all instittutions. I recal that for the bank jobs they made a university degree compulsary. Then they made the madrassa schooling as equivalent to degree and now all jihadis have got bank jobs. The same with phds, shortly the mullah will be equivalent to a phd.

Nothing can save pakistan, it has to be resized for any inprovement.

"Thanks to MAJ (pbuh) they have already been separated from you."

Tahir mian, please don't take me amiss. Just for academic interest. This 'pbuh' is used only to describe the prophet. I remember having read it somewhere. Can you please correct me?

Tahir #45

"Your collective gift to mankind is the unkind usurer 'banya'. "

This should have come from you when at the helms of affairs in your country is Mr ten per cent.

Why keep on rubbing the same lamp of Qu'ran when you are a bunch of antithesis of Qu'ran? Why you are so worried about Hindus when your dirty hands are already full?

Tahir mian,

Had Pakistan struck to the Lahore Resolution of 1940 while finalising the Constt and did not allow army rule to undermine democracy, things would never have come to this pass and India wud never have got a chance to intervene.

Btw, I dont think MAJ (pbuh) ever described Bengali as a languagae of Hindoos, his only concern was to have Urdu as a common language to create a sense of nationhood. And lest one accuse him of partiality it needs be reiterated that the great man's mother tongue was Gujarati/Cutchi and not Urdu, where he was not very comfortable.

Regards

Re: #56

A new opposition grew after MAJ controversially described Bengali as the language of Hindus!

India invested heavily into this long-awaited project.

One invariably falls into the same trap one lays for others.

Tahir mian,

That is held to be one of the great man's few mistakes. But still there was enuff time to correct that mistake.

Mainly it was Ayub, Yahya and Bhutto who were the main villains on Pak side and Mujib (possibly goaded by the treasonous Hindoo professors of Dhaka University) the main culprit on the Bengal side.

Regards

Re: # 54

"How did MAJ (pbuh) separate E and W Pak?"

I never meant MAJ did that. But hell, in a way he too added to the drama by decalaring the language of the creative elites the 'national language' as he landed in Dacca!

"Jinnah, the Governor General, on his visit to East Pakistan in March 1948, without taking the East Wing leaders into confidence, declared Urdu the language of just two per cent of the population, as the national language of Pakistan at a public meeting in Paltan Maidan, Dacca. This was done in the hope of national integration but it was taken amiss and misunderstood by the Bengalis as a move to suppress their language and culture."

You tell me!!??

Tahir mian,

How did MAJ (pbuh) separate E and W Pak. He created an independent united Pakistan, it was his successors who undid his great work.

Regards

Re: # 52

"Thanks to MAJ (pbuh) they have already been separated from you."

No, PIECES BE UPON THEM i.e. Yahya, Bhutto, and those before them, for separting East from West Pakistan--with a little push from (the likes of you know) across the Wagha.

:(

Chalta,

Re: 46

What you have presented is the conventional financial system. I was trying to present the Islamic system as I best understand it.

Tahir mian,

We're working on it, now only if Laddu and his ilk would leave us alone.

Thanks to MAJ (pbuh) they have already been separated from you.

Regards

Re: # 47

Ich kann Deutsches seit dem Fuhrer auch verstehen, das soviel von Ihnen Völker, nämlich, Rassismus und Steuerfreakishness geborgt wird.

أنا يستطيع Ù?همت ألمانية أيضا منذ [Ù?وهرر] يقترض كثيرا من أنت [Ù?ولكس], أيّ, عنصرية وتحكم [Ù?ركيشنسّ].

khurram sahib, I am not gonna read the link..can you sum up the savings point stuff. How do i get liquidity, do I use savings points like Burger king dollars and buy big macs at places where they take such currency? and how do i protect my downside? i.e. if i lend to you in dollars but earn profit/interest in savings points...how do I preserve the time value of my principal...do I get that back or do I get it back in more savings points

Re: #46,47 Dash_dot, Chaltahai,

Whether profit-sharing is implicit interest is an interesting discussion.

However, take a look at the links in post #7 & #9.
Here is a model of interest-free lending that does not involve profit-sharing either.

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