Beena Sarwar February 17, 2009
#448 Posted by Pew_Research on February 23, 2009 4:15:27 am
Re: # 436 Tahmed32
"...You refer to the objectives resolution (yes, surprise, pakistan was formed as a separate nation for muslims in the subcontinent!!)..."
This confirms suspicions in my mind that 'Pakistan ka matlab kya? La illaha illallah!'.
And as long as you continue to apologize for things like the Objectives Resolution, I do not think that your country will EVER emerge from the morass it is in.
"...You refer to the objectives resolution (yes, surprise, pakistan was formed as a separate nation for muslims in the subcontinent!!)..."
This confirms suspicions in my mind that 'Pakistan ka matlab kya? La illaha illallah!'.
And as long as you continue to apologize for things like the Objectives Resolution, I do not think that your country will EVER emerge from the morass it is in.
#447 Posted by tahir on February 23, 2009 2:12:51 am
Re: # 446
Mr. Zee,
I'm disappointed that Asadi, Truly and you have NOT condemned Urchin-48's mischief, whereas other good men did.
Have you been seeing it all without feeling anything?
Mr. Zee,
I'm disappointed that Asadi, Truly and you have NOT condemned Urchin-48's mischief, whereas other good men did.
Have you been seeing it all without feeling anything?
#446 Posted by zeemax on February 23, 2009 1:23:56 am
Urstruly,
I congratulate you on the great post #416.
I congratulate you on the great post #416.
#445 Posted by tahir on February 23, 2009 12:48:49 am
Re: # 439
"something doesn't make sense"
Truly,
What doesn't make sense to me is that you haven't come out to condemn what Urchin did at this website! Don't tell me you were in an 'atikaaf'?
"something doesn't make sense"
Truly,
What doesn't make sense to me is that you haven't come out to condemn what Urchin did at this website! Don't tell me you were in an 'atikaaf'?
#444 Posted by pinku on February 22, 2009 9:53:44 pm
#443 Posted by pinku on February
aur jo koi mere post ko red flag karega, vo apne allaha ko yaad kar lena ek baar, kyonki meri saari baatain roj sapnon main aayengi!.... aur bohot kaffir-giri hai unmain, bohot dard hoga, kafir ban jayega us dard se..
aur jo koi mere post ko red flag karega, vo apne allaha ko yaad kar lena ek baar, kyonki meri saari baatain roj sapnon main aayengi!.... aur bohot kaffir-giri hai unmain, bohot dard hoga, kafir ban jayega us dard se..
#443 Posted by pinku on February 22, 2009 9:50:09 pm
#439 Posted by Urstruly on
re trooly bhai, itna dimaag mat lagaya kar, kaffir ban jayega... baar baar pitne main maja aata hai kya??? phir vahi schopenhauer aur uske chaha/tau ki batain bataoon???.... bhai na to tu, na tere aur bak chowki/paki bhai itne shareef hain ki vo Islam ko dhang se defend kar paate par na karte... unhain pata hai ki Islam main kitna bada hole hai, aur oosne aadmiyon ko kis type ke hole main fit kiya hua hai... a-hole, or a-grade hole:-)
[[
....perpetually pissed and humorless....
basic ettiquets to behave and conduct a civilized discourse
]]
kitna humour chahiye tere ko, sahi se bata, aur civilization?, ettiquets? ye sab kahan seekha tune?? english medium school main??? hamidm ke humour se tera kaam nahin chal raha??? aur kitna chahiye.... civilization to pakistan ki hai, ya phir taliban ki, perpetually "liberate" karte rahenge addmiyon ko bombs aur ak-47 se:-)
pahele mythology bol raha hai aur phir believe karne ki baat kar raha hai, abey myhtology believe karne na karne ki cheej hoti hai kya???
tu unhi logon main se hai kya jinksi "revealed" books aur man-made books alag-alag hoti hain???
phir kaha raha hoon, english tak baat theek hai, par dimaag ka jyada istemall mat kiya kar.... varna revealed se bharosa ooth jayega tera...
re trooly bhai, itna dimaag mat lagaya kar, kaffir ban jayega... baar baar pitne main maja aata hai kya??? phir vahi schopenhauer aur uske chaha/tau ki batain bataoon???.... bhai na to tu, na tere aur bak chowki/paki bhai itne shareef hain ki vo Islam ko dhang se defend kar paate par na karte... unhain pata hai ki Islam main kitna bada hole hai, aur oosne aadmiyon ko kis type ke hole main fit kiya hua hai... a-hole, or a-grade hole:-)
[[
....perpetually pissed and humorless....
basic ettiquets to behave and conduct a civilized discourse
]]
kitna humour chahiye tere ko, sahi se bata, aur civilization?, ettiquets? ye sab kahan seekha tune?? english medium school main??? hamidm ke humour se tera kaam nahin chal raha??? aur kitna chahiye.... civilization to pakistan ki hai, ya phir taliban ki, perpetually "liberate" karte rahenge addmiyon ko bombs aur ak-47 se:-)
pahele mythology bol raha hai aur phir believe karne ki baat kar raha hai, abey myhtology believe karne na karne ki cheej hoti hai kya???
tu unhi logon main se hai kya jinksi "revealed" books aur man-made books alag-alag hoti hain???
phir kaha raha hoon, english tak baat theek hai, par dimaag ka jyada istemall mat kiya kar.... varna revealed se bharosa ooth jayega tera...
#442 Posted by guru on February 22, 2009 9:27:13 pm
In this new era of AfPak, the traffic needs to become 50% Afghani and rest baki ones.
Atleast this Indian American will stop visiting this site. I am sorry if I hurt some one on this site.
Good Bye!
Atleast this Indian American will stop visiting this site. I am sorry if I hurt some one on this site.
Good Bye!
#441 Posted by guru on February 22, 2009 9:22:17 pm
Was that funny and humorous enough?
Bakiland caused on average 50 innocent Indian deaths per month since May 1978 till Dec 2008. First Punjab then Kashmir then all over India. Granted you are tool in some one else hand but you chose that path because of your inbred hatred of civilizational India. Jis Thali Main Khate Ho Usime Hagate Ho. Sorry, that was not harsh but atleast I am not cutting some innocent one's jugullar.
Bakiland caused on average 50 innocent Indian deaths per month since May 1978 till Dec 2008. First Punjab then Kashmir then all over India. Granted you are tool in some one else hand but you chose that path because of your inbred hatred of civilizational India. Jis Thali Main Khate Ho Usime Hagate Ho. Sorry, that was not harsh but atleast I am not cutting some innocent one's jugullar.
#440 Posted by guru on February 22, 2009 9:15:07 pm
An interesting funny letter from here,
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4689&start=1480
Marshal Shahzad,
Pakistan, literal meaning, 'The land of pure' was founded by a whiskey guzzling, pork eating Khoja, who was desperate to rule Bharat Varsha. Once, he realised that Dhotiwala, baniyas and kangress will not let it happen, he discovered Islam. Even he did not believe that he got it in his life time. Pakistan, more than anything else was a token of british appreciation for the Muslim league support for Britain during the world war 2. I sometimes wonder how would have the situation in case Kangress supported british war efforts and not started quit India movement? Still Goras may have found another reason to keep this part of Bharat under them, It has all the reasons in 'The great game' theories of Caroe and to cut a long story short the Goras ensured that India's access to central asia is cut off by encouraging newly formed paki army to mount raids in kashmir in 1948 under the garb of tribal raids. The head of Paki army was general cawthorne. Indian army was in the process of removing british officers when this happened still there were sizeable numebr of them in IA too. Cawthorne thru his compatriots in Indian army slowed down india's response to this attack and thus the matter went into UN and our progress was halted somehow at current LOC.
In the end , I somehow feel confused regarding the motives of Jinnah.He got Pakistan so that Indian muslims can go there and live and not to forget continue to become more and more islamic.
I see nothing wrong in Shariat imposition in swat and I may be one of the few Indians who agree with your view point. Pakistan is a muslim country and they want to be seen closer to Arabs( Shariat were Tribal Arab customs much before Islam came in and they continued as Mohammed realised that religion and customs are two different things and he was an intelligent man) . The whole Naziriya-e-pakistan rested on , " Not Indian". I have read a lot of Pakistani text books and also continue to read newspapers columns published there and surprised at the voices of confusion still looking for pakistan's existence . I have always seen paki attempts to de-hyphenate Indian values, customs and thought process and unislamic and non paki. Why is this hue and cry against this de-hyphenation by Americans now.
There is nothing wrong with Afghanistan. They are your neighbours, Pakis have Roti- Beti relationships with Afghans and to top it , They are very islamic. You must be proud of this achievement that finally you have been able to get rid of the tag of "Like Indians". Finally Indian Muslims are also coming to the view that they are not like you. We have no problems with Afghans. We think pathans have always been India's friends. One of our president have been Pathan.
That is another matter that the area currently called pakistan consists of muslims who were former Hindus/Budhists and converted due to fear of sword. Thats why the arabs call them Dhimmis.
That cowardice is still continuing in the capitulation of Paki army and general mass - 1965 khem karan loss, 1971- 90000 POW with India fully armed surrendered, 1999 NLI wiped off . That are good at only terrorizing bunch of unarmed civilians, razing homes by artillery shells, Heli gunships etc from 30 km's away. Don't have the balls to face terrorists face to face on ground like Indian army does with boots on ground in Kashmir and North east.
The ancestoral habbit of surrender goes on. Talibanis are demanding something that has been the founding principal of pakistan. They should continue killing people till rest become as islamic as they are.
I want to thank Jinnah for creating this nation so that his followers can continue to kill each other for not being islamic enough. Believe me, We don't want even an inch from you except northern ares of kashmir(rightfully ours) and not even one Pakistani soul on our lands. May you all rest in peace.
Regards
Chandrabhan
Chicago
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4689&start=1480
Marshal Shahzad,
Pakistan, literal meaning, 'The land of pure' was founded by a whiskey guzzling, pork eating Khoja, who was desperate to rule Bharat Varsha. Once, he realised that Dhotiwala, baniyas and kangress will not let it happen, he discovered Islam. Even he did not believe that he got it in his life time. Pakistan, more than anything else was a token of british appreciation for the Muslim league support for Britain during the world war 2. I sometimes wonder how would have the situation in case Kangress supported british war efforts and not started quit India movement? Still Goras may have found another reason to keep this part of Bharat under them, It has all the reasons in 'The great game' theories of Caroe and to cut a long story short the Goras ensured that India's access to central asia is cut off by encouraging newly formed paki army to mount raids in kashmir in 1948 under the garb of tribal raids. The head of Paki army was general cawthorne. Indian army was in the process of removing british officers when this happened still there were sizeable numebr of them in IA too. Cawthorne thru his compatriots in Indian army slowed down india's response to this attack and thus the matter went into UN and our progress was halted somehow at current LOC.
In the end , I somehow feel confused regarding the motives of Jinnah.He got Pakistan so that Indian muslims can go there and live and not to forget continue to become more and more islamic.
I see nothing wrong in Shariat imposition in swat and I may be one of the few Indians who agree with your view point. Pakistan is a muslim country and they want to be seen closer to Arabs( Shariat were Tribal Arab customs much before Islam came in and they continued as Mohammed realised that religion and customs are two different things and he was an intelligent man) . The whole Naziriya-e-pakistan rested on , " Not Indian". I have read a lot of Pakistani text books and also continue to read newspapers columns published there and surprised at the voices of confusion still looking for pakistan's existence . I have always seen paki attempts to de-hyphenate Indian values, customs and thought process and unislamic and non paki. Why is this hue and cry against this de-hyphenation by Americans now.
There is nothing wrong with Afghanistan. They are your neighbours, Pakis have Roti- Beti relationships with Afghans and to top it , They are very islamic. You must be proud of this achievement that finally you have been able to get rid of the tag of "Like Indians". Finally Indian Muslims are also coming to the view that they are not like you. We have no problems with Afghans. We think pathans have always been India's friends. One of our president have been Pathan.
That is another matter that the area currently called pakistan consists of muslims who were former Hindus/Budhists and converted due to fear of sword. Thats why the arabs call them Dhimmis.
That cowardice is still continuing in the capitulation of Paki army and general mass - 1965 khem karan loss, 1971- 90000 POW with India fully armed surrendered, 1999 NLI wiped off . That are good at only terrorizing bunch of unarmed civilians, razing homes by artillery shells, Heli gunships etc from 30 km's away. Don't have the balls to face terrorists face to face on ground like Indian army does with boots on ground in Kashmir and North east.
The ancestoral habbit of surrender goes on. Talibanis are demanding something that has been the founding principal of pakistan. They should continue killing people till rest become as islamic as they are.
I want to thank Jinnah for creating this nation so that his followers can continue to kill each other for not being islamic enough. Believe me, We don't want even an inch from you except northern ares of kashmir(rightfully ours) and not even one Pakistani soul on our lands. May you all rest in peace.
Regards
Chandrabhan
Chicago
#439 Posted by Urstruly on February 22, 2009 9:05:40 pm
Re: # 438
Yeah. But something doesn't make sense. If we accept the mythology that - in pre-historic times Hindustan was a great civilization - to be true, then how do you explain the fact that every Hindu religious nut - the self-proclaimed inheritor of that great civilization - that we come across always appears to be perpetually pissed and humorless. If in pre-historic times Hindustan was a great culture, then how come none of the religious nuts we come accross knows the basic ettiquets to behave and conduct a civilized discourse in the group of their peers. You people are always cussing, finding faults with others, and always appear to be extremly angry all the time. Something is not right; I think you people have serious self-esteem issues, and reason being that you have problems beleiving your own myths.
Yeah. But something doesn't make sense. If we accept the mythology that - in pre-historic times Hindustan was a great civilization - to be true, then how do you explain the fact that every Hindu religious nut - the self-proclaimed inheritor of that great civilization - that we come across always appears to be perpetually pissed and humorless. If in pre-historic times Hindustan was a great culture, then how come none of the religious nuts we come accross knows the basic ettiquets to behave and conduct a civilized discourse in the group of their peers. You people are always cussing, finding faults with others, and always appear to be extremly angry all the time. Something is not right; I think you people have serious self-esteem issues, and reason being that you have problems beleiving your own myths.
#438 Posted by guru on February 22, 2009 8:03:07 pm
"This seems to be quite futile...however all historians, Hindu as well as others credit Sher Shah with all those great administration skills and giving out exemplery justice to one and all...as well as being the first to incorporate Rupee into financial transactions instead of the previously used tanka...and fantastic postal system...open your eyes...don't bring in worshippers of Kali Maa into everything...one has to call a spade a spade sometimes"
Hindu historians are JNU products like Romilas. Suri brought back what was previously working before Turk and other Islamics hoardes arrived. Poorbia = Bihar and Bengal.
Suri got only 5 years to rule that too a narow strip along GT as I mentioned before. Problem with histories is that it's not history of people but his stories concocted by darabari gandus.
what you are saying is like
Al Gore invented Internet.
Folks of May Flower invented American corn.
Saddam possessed WMDs.
Kashmiri Jihadis captured kargil heights.
Bakiland won all the wars against dark, short and coward Hindu's land.
Ajmal Kasab is actually Harminder Singh.
What else, I forgot one more
Old grannies and little kids did satee in their train compartment at Godhra because some darbari gandu Justice Bannerji says (so that Lalu rewards him and and poor innocent Abdul casts his votes to this Lalu gandu).
Am I missing something?
Proof is in the taste of the pooding. Look around. Without external financial help how India progressed in most of the areas esp. science & technology. Have you heard about ArthShastra, have you heard of republics and democracies of Gautama Buddha's time? How would you if you know only destruction and loot. Doosron kI loot can last only one generation.
Hindu historians are JNU products like Romilas. Suri brought back what was previously working before Turk and other Islamics hoardes arrived. Poorbia = Bihar and Bengal.
Suri got only 5 years to rule that too a narow strip along GT as I mentioned before. Problem with histories is that it's not history of people but his stories concocted by darabari gandus.
what you are saying is like
Al Gore invented Internet.
Folks of May Flower invented American corn.
Saddam possessed WMDs.
Kashmiri Jihadis captured kargil heights.
Bakiland won all the wars against dark, short and coward Hindu's land.
Ajmal Kasab is actually Harminder Singh.
What else, I forgot one more
Old grannies and little kids did satee in their train compartment at Godhra because some darbari gandu Justice Bannerji says (so that Lalu rewards him and and poor innocent Abdul casts his votes to this Lalu gandu).
Am I missing something?
Proof is in the taste of the pooding. Look around. Without external financial help how India progressed in most of the areas esp. science & technology. Have you heard about ArthShastra, have you heard of republics and democracies of Gautama Buddha's time? How would you if you know only destruction and loot. Doosron kI loot can last only one generation.
#437 Posted by dost_mittar on February 22, 2009 7:02:59 pm
tahmed32#436:
As you wish, sir!
Khild ko janoon kahe janoon ko khild
Jo chaahe aapka krishma-e-husn saaz kare! :)
As you wish, sir!
Khild ko janoon kahe janoon ko khild
Jo chaahe aapka krishma-e-husn saaz kare! :)
#436 Posted by tahmed32 on February 22, 2009 6:32:39 pm
dost mittar: i think we are going in circles now. You refer to the objectives resolution (yes, surprise, pakistan was formed as a separate nation for muslims in the subcontinent!!), and end up repeating your claim that "sharia" or "islam" means taliban rule (beheadings, beatings, burnings).
Like i said at the beginning, when you brought this up (and which you ignored) - why dont you practice in hinduism or sikhism what you preach for muslims to do. Namely, define religion based on the views/actions of the most uneducated and criminal elements in society??
If you dont conveniently skip such inconvenient points I raise, and if you dont conveniently make up "facts" to suit your conclusions (about election results in Pakistan), perhaps we could actually have an intelligent discussion.
Last post on this subjec. Thanks at least for your gentlemanlike conduct, albeit while wasting your time and my time as explained above.
Like i said at the beginning, when you brought this up (and which you ignored) - why dont you practice in hinduism or sikhism what you preach for muslims to do. Namely, define religion based on the views/actions of the most uneducated and criminal elements in society??
If you dont conveniently skip such inconvenient points I raise, and if you dont conveniently make up "facts" to suit your conclusions (about election results in Pakistan), perhaps we could actually have an intelligent discussion.
Last post on this subjec. Thanks at least for your gentlemanlike conduct, albeit while wasting your time and my time as explained above.
#435 Posted by rabiawsti on February 22, 2009 6:10:08 pm
#408
rf786
"This is all by design, these people have a vision and are disciplined enough to make deals whenever required and yet maintain their primary goals."
exactly. And the amazing thing is that we still have clueless idiots in the west like the author of this article:
http://tinyurl.com/cnly2y
who actually can say something like this:
"The strategy to agree to a peace deal between Sufi Muhammad of the TNSM is a markedly different one from the drone approach, and is based on a calculated gamble which posits that if the Taliban are handed control of the area, the consequent repression they will impose on the people will automatically turn public opinion against them.
In other words, if the anti-state force, one that has ruthlessly been destroying schools, ravaging the economy and attacking state installations, is itself made the state, then its power to subvert the state is automatically neutralised. Thus the decision to impose sharia thus has little to do with the substantive issue of Islamic law and more to do with the strategic interests of the Pakistani state in fighting an anti-state actor that uses a religious platform to foment support."
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if we weren't so screwed, articles like this would be hilarious.
rf786
"This is all by design, these people have a vision and are disciplined enough to make deals whenever required and yet maintain their primary goals."
exactly. And the amazing thing is that we still have clueless idiots in the west like the author of this article:
http://tinyurl.com/cnly2y
who actually can say something like this:
"The strategy to agree to a peace deal between Sufi Muhammad of the TNSM is a markedly different one from the drone approach, and is based on a calculated gamble which posits that if the Taliban are handed control of the area, the consequent repression they will impose on the people will automatically turn public opinion against them.
In other words, if the anti-state force, one that has ruthlessly been destroying schools, ravaging the economy and attacking state installations, is itself made the state, then its power to subvert the state is automatically neutralised. Thus the decision to impose sharia thus has little to do with the substantive issue of Islamic law and more to do with the strategic interests of the Pakistani state in fighting an anti-state actor that uses a religious platform to foment support."
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if we weren't so screwed, articles like this would be hilarious.
#434 Posted by Pew_Research on February 22, 2009 6:00:39 pm
Hamidm
You've ignored my repeated requests to address the points that I raised. Are you being evasive? If so, then that raises doubts about your credibility and rationality. Ciao.
You've ignored my repeated requests to address the points that I raised. Are you being evasive? If so, then that raises doubts about your credibility and rationality. Ciao.
#433 Posted by bittersweetmojo on February 22, 2009 5:43:04 pm
#430
Aww! Nem, so sad. A few posts below, one of your commanders was making statements of marching over dead arses of Pakistanis. What happened to your Incredible sense of becoming regional power now, love?
Wasn't your India INCREDIBLE during last polls? Isn't it Shining anymore? Or what?
I mean, just look at yourself, man. Just look!
You can't even provide toilet facility for a population twice of Pakistan's in your slums, darling... and you talk of running over our corpses? Amazing, isn't it?
"Allah may be giving risq to holy pakis but why will he think of pagans?"
Oh my my! Allah doesn't provide anything to pagans, right? You sound like one nutty child who compliaints all the time. What happened to your sense of being self-fed, self-confidence? I thought you had better than that, believe me! Alas! I am disappointed by the over one-billion slumdogs. chc chc!
Hey you know, I watched this brilliant movie called Slumdog Millionaire made by an eccentric director. It has an understated message, i.e: "even if you are in slums, you can become a millionaire in India. But one one condition: YOU GOTTA DIVE IN S**T first." What fun! This message too is being depicted by a foriegner. Koi self-respect hai tum logon main k nahi?
-E
Aww! Nem, so sad. A few posts below, one of your commanders was making statements of marching over dead arses of Pakistanis. What happened to your Incredible sense of becoming regional power now, love?
Wasn't your India INCREDIBLE during last polls? Isn't it Shining anymore? Or what?
I mean, just look at yourself, man. Just look!
You can't even provide toilet facility for a population twice of Pakistan's in your slums, darling... and you talk of running over our corpses? Amazing, isn't it?
"Allah may be giving risq to holy pakis but why will he think of pagans?"
Oh my my! Allah doesn't provide anything to pagans, right? You sound like one nutty child who compliaints all the time. What happened to your sense of being self-fed, self-confidence? I thought you had better than that, believe me! Alas! I am disappointed by the over one-billion slumdogs. chc chc!
Hey you know, I watched this brilliant movie called Slumdog Millionaire made by an eccentric director. It has an understated message, i.e: "even if you are in slums, you can become a millionaire in India. But one one condition: YOU GOTTA DIVE IN S**T first." What fun! This message too is being depicted by a foriegner. Koi self-respect hai tum logon main k nahi?
-E
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