Beena Sarwar February 17, 2009
#400 Posted by bhairav on February 22, 2009 8:43:12 am
The “strategic depth� strategy has precedence in its stupidity.
In 1965, Pak army attacked Kashmir and thought it could wrest it without war being expanded. Only thing Indians were not part of that “strategic thinking� and attacked Lahore instead. Same thing in Kargil.
Same thing with war of thousand cuts strategy - Indoctrinate and use poor, illiterate, desperate, low caste muslims like Ajmal Kasab as cannon fodder for terrorism in India and Afghanistan but the consequent damage due to the increased radicalization of Paki society was not taken into account. Now you have every one, every where running around with guns and bombs killing each other like shia-sunni, pathan-mohajir, etc. are doing to each other.
Also don’t know if they still teach “truths� like One Muslim equal to 10 Hindus, Paki nuclear weapon is better than Indian, etc,. in Paki schools but the sheer stupidity of it and the Pakis on this site actually buying it – would be very funny if it were not dangerous.
When 2 people are fighting each other with guns in battle-field, it does not matter what religion you are, how big your stature is, etc. A bullet will just go wherever it is fired. In fact the bigger in stature/size you are the bigger target you will make. And other things are irrelevant.
And even tho India says it will not use nuclear weapons first you can’t really trust that/assume that. And you also can’t assume that if you use nuclear weapons first, India will only retaliate once and not annihilate you completely by taking out all your cities because it could.
Making stupid assumptions and acting without thinking thru on consequences of your actions can get you in some real mess which is what we are seeing in present day Pure-land.
In 1965, Pak army attacked Kashmir and thought it could wrest it without war being expanded. Only thing Indians were not part of that “strategic thinking� and attacked Lahore instead. Same thing in Kargil.
Same thing with war of thousand cuts strategy - Indoctrinate and use poor, illiterate, desperate, low caste muslims like Ajmal Kasab as cannon fodder for terrorism in India and Afghanistan but the consequent damage due to the increased radicalization of Paki society was not taken into account. Now you have every one, every where running around with guns and bombs killing each other like shia-sunni, pathan-mohajir, etc. are doing to each other.
Also don’t know if they still teach “truths� like One Muslim equal to 10 Hindus, Paki nuclear weapon is better than Indian, etc,. in Paki schools but the sheer stupidity of it and the Pakis on this site actually buying it – would be very funny if it were not dangerous.
When 2 people are fighting each other with guns in battle-field, it does not matter what religion you are, how big your stature is, etc. A bullet will just go wherever it is fired. In fact the bigger in stature/size you are the bigger target you will make. And other things are irrelevant.
And even tho India says it will not use nuclear weapons first you can’t really trust that/assume that. And you also can’t assume that if you use nuclear weapons first, India will only retaliate once and not annihilate you completely by taking out all your cities because it could.
Making stupid assumptions and acting without thinking thru on consequences of your actions can get you in some real mess which is what we are seeing in present day Pure-land.
#399 Posted by _ar_jun48 on February 22, 2009 8:41:08 am
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#398 Posted by bhairav on February 22, 2009 8:37:48 am
Taliban in Swat is nothing but the Pak Ruling Elite’s “Strategic Depth theory� with regards to Afghanistan turned upside down on its head.
While Pak was creating/using Taliban to create “Strategic Depth� in Afghan-land as their extended region (in case India attacked from east), the Taliban was creating their own “Strategic Depth� within Pakistan.
When US attacked Afghan-land, Taliban naturally left Afghanistan and took refuge in into their strategic depth region within Pakistan in the NWFP and Balochistan. And now the Taliban are slowly expanding their “strategic depth� into Punjab and Karachi as per the plan.
Don’t know why all these articles and randi-rona.
As Forrest Gump said - "Stupid is as stupid does."
While Pak was creating/using Taliban to create “Strategic Depth� in Afghan-land as their extended region (in case India attacked from east), the Taliban was creating their own “Strategic Depth� within Pakistan.
When US attacked Afghan-land, Taliban naturally left Afghanistan and took refuge in into their strategic depth region within Pakistan in the NWFP and Balochistan. And now the Taliban are slowly expanding their “strategic depth� into Punjab and Karachi as per the plan.
Don’t know why all these articles and randi-rona.
As Forrest Gump said - "Stupid is as stupid does."
#397 Posted by krishna_abcd on February 22, 2009 8:31:49 am
#382 Goldfinger
[Re: # 372 krishna...I already said that these guys were capable of removing the smug smirks from your faces but all your countrymen got upset about it and wouldn't agree...now here it is right from the horse's mouth! ]
India is fully capable of erasing Pakiland AND Afganistan off the face of the map. If we wanted, with our 1 billion+ people, we could just keep marching and eradicating all that came in our way. It would be possible for India, or the US (if it wanted) to eradicate EVERY man, woman and child from Pakistan and Afghanistan.
But we are a humane people, not Muslims, so terrorism will continue to eat away at our national fabric.
[Re: # 372 krishna...I already said that these guys were capable of removing the smug smirks from your faces but all your countrymen got upset about it and wouldn't agree...now here it is right from the horse's mouth! ]
India is fully capable of erasing Pakiland AND Afganistan off the face of the map. If we wanted, with our 1 billion+ people, we could just keep marching and eradicating all that came in our way. It would be possible for India, or the US (if it wanted) to eradicate EVERY man, woman and child from Pakistan and Afghanistan.
But we are a humane people, not Muslims, so terrorism will continue to eat away at our national fabric.
#396 Posted by tahir on February 22, 2009 8:31:27 am
Re: # 387
Beta Hamid,
By the next U.S elections you WILL know me better; never mind my clean countenance and out-of-the-sink feet.
I've chosen the 'safest way' and the signs repeatedly say: Hell in NOT this way! Sory, I can't trust you; you're not the Highest Authority.
I have sufficient freedom , liberty worth cherishing, and plenty of happiness. All I now want is 'ChowQ Stuffed' (patent pending) to offer 'salah' behind me.
2:153
O YOU who have attained to faith! Seek aid in steadfast patience and prayer: for, behold, God is with those who are patient in adversity.
Beta Hamid,
By the next U.S elections you WILL know me better; never mind my clean countenance and out-of-the-sink feet.
I've chosen the 'safest way' and the signs repeatedly say: Hell in NOT this way! Sory, I can't trust you; you're not the Highest Authority.
I have sufficient freedom , liberty worth cherishing, and plenty of happiness. All I now want is 'ChowQ Stuffed' (patent pending) to offer 'salah' behind me.
2:153
O YOU who have attained to faith! Seek aid in steadfast patience and prayer: for, behold, God is with those who are patient in adversity.
#395 Posted by nemesis3 on February 22, 2009 8:26:21 am
#380 Posted by tahir
tahir mian,
In fact I keep my 'show picture' option unticked to show bandwidth and hence missed arjun's posting.
I have given my opinion in #385 below. I did not understand your 'hindi' and least about what this flash(flush) was all about.
I can assure you that an average hindu does not like a mussalman not for what he is but what he does or what he has done through the history such as desecrating the hindu holy places a la babar and dishonouring hindu women. I think it is quite natural. But I am sure when it comes to some holy scripture, nobody would think of desecrating it, notwithstanding the attitude of the Government pampering the non hindus. Once the issues are resolved, we are good neighbours.
You should believe me, many of my friends are muslims - sunnis and shias. Their internal differences don't bother us.
The incidence was in bad taste indeed.
tahir mian,
In fact I keep my 'show picture' option unticked to show bandwidth and hence missed arjun's posting.
I have given my opinion in #385 below. I did not understand your 'hindi' and least about what this flash(flush) was all about.
I can assure you that an average hindu does not like a mussalman not for what he is but what he does or what he has done through the history such as desecrating the hindu holy places a la babar and dishonouring hindu women. I think it is quite natural. But I am sure when it comes to some holy scripture, nobody would think of desecrating it, notwithstanding the attitude of the Government pampering the non hindus. Once the issues are resolved, we are good neighbours.
You should believe me, many of my friends are muslims - sunnis and shias. Their internal differences don't bother us.
The incidence was in bad taste indeed.
#394 Posted by krishna_abcd on February 22, 2009 8:25:50 am
If the scenario depicted in my post #372 - which I have been speaking about for so long does happen, I want all the "liberal" "intellectuals" in India beginning with Romila Thapar and the entire JNU campus and alumni to all the islamist sympathizers to be arrested, and WHIPPED in public EVERY day for the rest of their lives.
#393 Posted by _ar_jun48 on February 22, 2009 8:24:42 am
funny how pakis don't have a problem with islamic terrorism...but put the shitty book in the shitter(or post photos of it) and they're all riled up
gaandfinger, tahir and other pakis...please call someone who cares about your feelings...you islamofascists have no rights not to get your feelings hurt...
you can run around with "freedom go to hell" and "behead those who insult islam" signs in the UK but in the US, this is called free speech...deal with it...(or don't..either way, i don't give mohammeds's ass)
gaandfinger, tahir and other pakis...please call someone who cares about your feelings...you islamofascists have no rights not to get your feelings hurt...
you can run around with "freedom go to hell" and "behead those who insult islam" signs in the UK but in the US, this is called free speech...deal with it...(or don't..either way, i don't give mohammeds's ass)
#392 Posted by krishna_abcd on February 22, 2009 8:21:38 am
Re:#391 hamidm2
Good for you. There is hope yet.
Good for you. There is hope yet.
#391 Posted by hamidm2 on February 22, 2009 8:19:29 am
Re: # 385
nemisis mian,
.... urchin is a despicable creature but he does have the right to say whatever he wants ...... freedom of speech is more important than coddling mohammedans whose feelings are easily hurt .....
nemisis mian,
.... urchin is a despicable creature but he does have the right to say whatever he wants ...... freedom of speech is more important than coddling mohammedans whose feelings are easily hurt .....
#390 Posted by krishna_abcd on February 22, 2009 8:19:25 am
For all of those who are jumping on the condemn-Arjun bandwagon, I'd like to ask - what if it was the Mein Kampf in the toilet? Would they be displaying an equal amount of righteous indignation? The Mein Kampf, too, was held sacred by millions of Germans. Should decent people be worried about offending Nazis and their enablers, in such a case?
Think about that, and let me know, instead of displaying emotional knee-jerk reactions.
Think about that, and let me know, instead of displaying emotional knee-jerk reactions.
#389 Posted by Goldfinger on February 22, 2009 8:18:23 am
Re: # 381
Hamidm,
I could agree with smuggling in the other stuff....but beef?! I wouldn't trust these wicked people with that in their paws....they could send in rotten beef from dead and diseased cows...then what do we do?
As for those talibs prancing around with bollywood starlets...sounds great therapy and could make some nice love traingle stories...would also keep talibs busy with doing something constructive rather than beheading people day in and day out...good idea...
Hamidm,
I could agree with smuggling in the other stuff....but beef?! I wouldn't trust these wicked people with that in their paws....they could send in rotten beef from dead and diseased cows...then what do we do?
As for those talibs prancing around with bollywood starlets...sounds great therapy and could make some nice love traingle stories...would also keep talibs busy with doing something constructive rather than beheading people day in and day out...good idea...
#388 Posted by tahir on February 22, 2009 8:16:48 am
Re: # 376
Mr. Maharana,
"Your post about muslim's holy book in toilet is uncalled for and does not lead to any civil discussion."
Thanks for supporting what is right.
And thanks to Goldfinger (and others) for raising his voice and the golden finger in the correct direction.
Truth prevails, always.
Mr. Maharana,
"Your post about muslim's holy book in toilet is uncalled for and does not lead to any civil discussion."
Thanks for supporting what is right.
And thanks to Goldfinger (and others) for raising his voice and the golden finger in the correct direction.
Truth prevails, always.
#387 Posted by hamidm2 on February 22, 2009 8:15:28 am
Re: # 380
tahir mian,
.... you are not a talib??!! .... well, you had me fooled! .... next thing you will be telling me that you shave and don't wash your feet in the sink .... life is full of surprises ......
..... actually, the unwashed taliban don't scare me as much as their washed apologists and supporters ....... 'civilized' people like imran khan and nawaz sharif are a much bigger threat than cavemen like fazlullah and baitullah .... that is why i have always called for bombing muridke, mansoora, model town, akora khattak and now i am adding raiwind to the list of targets .... stay away from these places because if obama does what he should do, the drones will be coming soon ..... another good target would be the coming long march and dharna - i hope you are not planning on being there ........
..... i wish you well and hope you will leave the sirat-ul-mustaqeen to hell and get on the path to freedom , liberty and the pursuit of happiness .........
tahir mian,
.... you are not a talib??!! .... well, you had me fooled! .... next thing you will be telling me that you shave and don't wash your feet in the sink .... life is full of surprises ......
..... actually, the unwashed taliban don't scare me as much as their washed apologists and supporters ....... 'civilized' people like imran khan and nawaz sharif are a much bigger threat than cavemen like fazlullah and baitullah .... that is why i have always called for bombing muridke, mansoora, model town, akora khattak and now i am adding raiwind to the list of targets .... stay away from these places because if obama does what he should do, the drones will be coming soon ..... another good target would be the coming long march and dharna - i hope you are not planning on being there ........
..... i wish you well and hope you will leave the sirat-ul-mustaqeen to hell and get on the path to freedom , liberty and the pursuit of happiness .........
#386 Posted by rf786 on February 22, 2009 8:10:48 am
Re: # 372
Good post, its proactive thinkers such as these who will change the course of history or we shall all perish.
Good post, its proactive thinkers such as these who will change the course of history or we shall all perish.
#385 Posted by nemesis3 on February 22, 2009 8:10:41 am
#376 Posted by Maharana
I traced the site and found that it has been done by a sick mind. Similar to the ones which give cowdung and urine stories to Goldfinger.
It is somebody's illegitimate child. Why should have arjun adopted it?
I agree with you maharana. arjun should not have done it. Now any bloke can pick up any holy scripture and place it anywhere and photograph it. What does it prove? What will it achieve?
I traced the site and found that it has been done by a sick mind. Similar to the ones which give cowdung and urine stories to Goldfinger.
It is somebody's illegitimate child. Why should have arjun adopted it?
I agree with you maharana. arjun should not have done it. Now any bloke can pick up any holy scripture and place it anywhere and photograph it. What does it prove? What will it achieve?
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