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Shoaib Daniyal February 18, 2009
#107 Posted by tahir on February 25, 2009 3:59:08 am
Re: # 105
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#106 Posted by tahir on February 25, 2009 3:56:08 am
Re: # 105
Don't quote your scripture, whose real secret has already been exposed at: http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/70854/30139
Who or what is 'Ghouse'?
Nowhere does Asad say: "Kafirs, such as Hindus, “are like cattle -nay, they are even less conscious of the right way�.
"We (Allah, there are few Allahs it seems)"
Ever heard how the royalty refers to itself; even common Indus-ians do that? It seems you're only quoting bits of the Qur'an to sound like a sage. Read it all (while asking for guidance) and then see why 'We', 'I','Us' is used, and why it changes. Asad has explained that all!
Rotten eggs are bound to get boiled in 'narkh' or 'jahannam', whether they are Muslims, or any other creed. I can see the idol in you getting upset.
Don't be upset, understand, let go of your anger.
Shanti.
Don't quote your scripture, whose real secret has already been exposed at: http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/70854/30139
Who or what is 'Ghouse'?
Nowhere does Asad say: "Kafirs, such as Hindus, “are like cattle -nay, they are even less conscious of the right way�.
"We (Allah, there are few Allahs it seems)"
Ever heard how the royalty refers to itself; even common Indus-ians do that? It seems you're only quoting bits of the Qur'an to sound like a sage. Read it all (while asking for guidance) and then see why 'We', 'I','Us' is used, and why it changes. Asad has explained that all!
Rotten eggs are bound to get boiled in 'narkh' or 'jahannam', whether they are Muslims, or any other creed. I can see the idol in you getting upset.
Don't be upset, understand, let go of your anger.
Shanti.
#105 Posted by laddu on February 25, 2009 2:53:51 am
Tahir ji,
"There were about 360 idols around the Ka’abah. He pulled them down with his sword while reciting: “And say: ‘Truth has arrived and falsehood has perished for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.’� (Al-Qur’an, 17:81) Also “Say: ‘Truth has arrived and falsehood neither creates anything new nor restores anything.’� (Al-Qur’an, 34: 49) The idols tumbled on their faces.
On the basis of such info, Wikipedia notes that:
In 630, Muhammad and his followers returned to Mecca as conqueror, and he destroyed the 360 idols in and around the Kaaba.[28][29] While destroying each idol, Muhammad recited [Qur'an 17:81] which says “Truth has arrived and falsehood has perished for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.�[28][29]
Ibn Ishaq [Karachi, p. 552], Muhammad’s first pious biographer, says that after capturing Mecca, Muhammad ordered the destruction of all idols of the Ka’ba, shouting out: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish�.
Nonetheless, the moral of the story is: You can take over a temple and remove there idols therein, not destroy them. Idolaters of the world can this message of Ghouse home.
Now let me turn to the Quranic verses Ghouse has addressed. I will not respond to his comments on other religious scriptures, because my expertise doesn’t lie there. I have spent the last 5-6 years researching Islam extensively, on which I am confident of commenting. If other scriptures have violent content, they incite violence too.
In explanation of verse 7:179, despite whatever unnecessary things he has written, Asad’s translation still says that the Kafirs, such as Hindus, “are like cattle -nay, they are even less conscious of the right way�. That means a non-Muslim, heedless to Allah’s messages, is worse, more evil, than animals like cattle, which the original author put as: they are “like brute beast.� I need someone explain what’s the difference between the two. Therefore, the claim of the original author that “In the eye of Allah, these kafirs [Hindus] are no better than animals� is roughly right, although he would been accurate had he said “kafirs [Hindus] are worse than animals (cattle)�. What treatment would Muslims render, if they happen to come across animals like these in their neighborhood? Heads of the kafirs should roll.
Concerning quoted verse 4:56, Asad’s translation basically say the same thing: For those rejecting Islam, “We (Allah, there are few Allahs it seems) shall, in time, cause to endure fire: [and] every time their skins are burnt off, We shall replace them with new skins, so that they may taste suffering [in full]…�
This horrible cycle of punishment-that a Hindu, Christian or Jew deserves-would continue for eternity; so vile a people are they. No doubt, Allah’s psychopathic punishment would surpass the barbarity of Hitler by infinite folds. Again, the original author is accurate in emphasizing that Allah has intense hatred of non-Muslims.
Some master deceivers of Islam would tell us that Jihad means struggling with the self, which will help them gain paradise. I hope, some of them will come forward and explain to us as to how struggling with the self would result in slaying the kafirs and getting killed in the process.
Let me emphasize to the reader that engaging with ignorants or deceivers takes us to no meaningful enlightenment on the subject.
"There were about 360 idols around the Ka’abah. He pulled them down with his sword while reciting: “And say: ‘Truth has arrived and falsehood has perished for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.’� (Al-Qur’an, 17:81) Also “Say: ‘Truth has arrived and falsehood neither creates anything new nor restores anything.’� (Al-Qur’an, 34: 49) The idols tumbled on their faces.
On the basis of such info, Wikipedia notes that:
In 630, Muhammad and his followers returned to Mecca as conqueror, and he destroyed the 360 idols in and around the Kaaba.[28][29] While destroying each idol, Muhammad recited [Qur'an 17:81] which says “Truth has arrived and falsehood has perished for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.�[28][29]
Ibn Ishaq [Karachi, p. 552], Muhammad’s first pious biographer, says that after capturing Mecca, Muhammad ordered the destruction of all idols of the Ka’ba, shouting out: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish�.
Nonetheless, the moral of the story is: You can take over a temple and remove there idols therein, not destroy them. Idolaters of the world can this message of Ghouse home.
Now let me turn to the Quranic verses Ghouse has addressed. I will not respond to his comments on other religious scriptures, because my expertise doesn’t lie there. I have spent the last 5-6 years researching Islam extensively, on which I am confident of commenting. If other scriptures have violent content, they incite violence too.
In explanation of verse 7:179, despite whatever unnecessary things he has written, Asad’s translation still says that the Kafirs, such as Hindus, “are like cattle -nay, they are even less conscious of the right way�. That means a non-Muslim, heedless to Allah’s messages, is worse, more evil, than animals like cattle, which the original author put as: they are “like brute beast.� I need someone explain what’s the difference between the two. Therefore, the claim of the original author that “In the eye of Allah, these kafirs [Hindus] are no better than animals� is roughly right, although he would been accurate had he said “kafirs [Hindus] are worse than animals (cattle)�. What treatment would Muslims render, if they happen to come across animals like these in their neighborhood? Heads of the kafirs should roll.
Concerning quoted verse 4:56, Asad’s translation basically say the same thing: For those rejecting Islam, “We (Allah, there are few Allahs it seems) shall, in time, cause to endure fire: [and] every time their skins are burnt off, We shall replace them with new skins, so that they may taste suffering [in full]…�
This horrible cycle of punishment-that a Hindu, Christian or Jew deserves-would continue for eternity; so vile a people are they. No doubt, Allah’s psychopathic punishment would surpass the barbarity of Hitler by infinite folds. Again, the original author is accurate in emphasizing that Allah has intense hatred of non-Muslims.
Some master deceivers of Islam would tell us that Jihad means struggling with the self, which will help them gain paradise. I hope, some of them will come forward and explain to us as to how struggling with the self would result in slaying the kafirs and getting killed in the process.
Let me emphasize to the reader that engaging with ignorants or deceivers takes us to no meaningful enlightenment on the subject.
#104 Posted by bhairav on February 23, 2009 2:14:55 pm
There was a one hour interview on CNBC with Warren Buffet, the richest man in the world, who just donated $31 billion to charity.
Here are some very interesting aspects of his life:
1. He bought his first share of stock at age 11 and he now regrets that he started too late!
2. He bought a small farm at age 14 with savings from delivering newspapers.
3. He still lives in the same, small 3-bedroom house in midtown Omaha, that he bought after he got married 50years ago. He says that he has everything he needs in that house. His house does not have a wall or a fence.
4. He drives his own car everywhere and does not have a driver or security people around him.
5. He never travels by private jet, although he owns the world's largest private jet company.
6. His company, Berkshire Hathaway, owns 63 companies. He writes only one letter each year to the CEOs of these companies, giving them goals for the year. He never holds meetings or calls them on a regular basis. He has given his CEO's only two rules. Rule number 1: Do not lose any of your shareholder's money. Rule number 2: Do not forget rule number 1.
7. He does not socialize with the high society crowd. His pastime after he gets home is to make himself some popcorn and watch television.
8. Bill Gates, the world's richest man, met him for the first time only 5 years ago. Bill Gates did not think he had anything in common with Warren Buffet. So, he had scheduled his meeting only for half hour. But when Gates met him, the meeting lasted for ten hours and Bill Gates became a devotee of Warren Buffet.
9. Warren Buffet does not carry a cell phone, nor has a computer on his desk.
His advice to young people: 'Stay away from credit cards and invest in yourself and remember:
A. Money doesn't create man, but it is the man who created money
B. Live your life as simple as you are
C. Don't do what others say. Just listen to them, but do what makes you feel good
D. Don't go on brand name. Wear those things in which you feel comfortable.
E. After all, it's your life. Why give others the chance to rule your life?
Treat yourself like who you are! A child of GOD!!!
Here are some very interesting aspects of his life:
1. He bought his first share of stock at age 11 and he now regrets that he started too late!
2. He bought a small farm at age 14 with savings from delivering newspapers.
3. He still lives in the same, small 3-bedroom house in midtown Omaha, that he bought after he got married 50years ago. He says that he has everything he needs in that house. His house does not have a wall or a fence.
4. He drives his own car everywhere and does not have a driver or security people around him.
5. He never travels by private jet, although he owns the world's largest private jet company.
6. His company, Berkshire Hathaway, owns 63 companies. He writes only one letter each year to the CEOs of these companies, giving them goals for the year. He never holds meetings or calls them on a regular basis. He has given his CEO's only two rules. Rule number 1: Do not lose any of your shareholder's money. Rule number 2: Do not forget rule number 1.
7. He does not socialize with the high society crowd. His pastime after he gets home is to make himself some popcorn and watch television.
8. Bill Gates, the world's richest man, met him for the first time only 5 years ago. Bill Gates did not think he had anything in common with Warren Buffet. So, he had scheduled his meeting only for half hour. But when Gates met him, the meeting lasted for ten hours and Bill Gates became a devotee of Warren Buffet.
9. Warren Buffet does not carry a cell phone, nor has a computer on his desk.
His advice to young people: 'Stay away from credit cards and invest in yourself and remember:
A. Money doesn't create man, but it is the man who created money
B. Live your life as simple as you are
C. Don't do what others say. Just listen to them, but do what makes you feel good
D. Don't go on brand name. Wear those things in which you feel comfortable.
E. After all, it's your life. Why give others the chance to rule your life?
Treat yourself like who you are! A child of GOD!!!
#103 Posted by stuka on February 23, 2009 11:40:44 am
yaae, I am a supporter of Ram Sene and I am HIGHLY OFFENDED that you posted such derogatory language about them. How can you conclude that Ram Sene guys are fags? Have you looked at the girls they threw out of the pub? The girls were overweight and aesthetically reduced the ambience of the pub. Ergo, Ram Sene guys are fond of the good life which includes seeing nice eye candy when paying 300 rupees for a damn beer.
#101 Posted by Dash_Dot on February 23, 2009 8:25:25 am
Re: # 99 I also saw the following graffiti on the walls of a urinal
GOD Saves
and below it in another hand was written
Shilton save better
So Fascist Tahir what is your point?
GOD Saves
and below it in another hand was written
Shilton save better
So Fascist Tahir what is your point?
#99 Posted by tahir on February 23, 2009 4:38:21 am
Re: # 97
"life is in your hands."
Long ago, while urinating, I saw THIS written on a toilet wall!
Thanks for the reminder, joker!
"life is in your hands."
Long ago, while urinating, I saw THIS written on a toilet wall!
Thanks for the reminder, joker!
#98 Posted by tahir on February 23, 2009 4:36:14 am
And when they finally pour Ganga-jal in your mouths, think of my I-log pictures and Zamzam water!
#97 Posted by Dash_Dot on February 23, 2009 4:36:07 am
GOD does not exist.
relent you fools. life is in your hands.
you are the master of your destiny.
GOD does not exist.
relent you fools. life is in your hands.
you are the master of your destiny.
GOD does not exist.
#96 Posted by tahir on February 23, 2009 4:34:51 am
The little barking dogs think that by attacking a person of great importance to world history, they will be able to pull him down.
Listen fools, he stands much higher than the idols of ancestors (with a fair share of demons too) you worship.
Barking poodles, all of you are bereft of grace, and doomed to perish in your rage. That is not a curse but REALITY around the corner, when death will creep up on you quite suddenly (or in the form of tortous illness).
Recover before its too late.
Listen fools, he stands much higher than the idols of ancestors (with a fair share of demons too) you worship.
Barking poodles, all of you are bereft of grace, and doomed to perish in your rage. That is not a curse but REALITY around the corner, when death will creep up on you quite suddenly (or in the form of tortous illness).
Recover before its too late.
#95 Posted by tahir on February 23, 2009 4:25:14 am
Re: # 93
"No doubt someone did. And no doubt I am living up to my commitment."
How old are you at ChowQ and otherwise? I'm old enough here (and otherwise too) to tell you that there is no such thing as FREE SPEECH. Free speech really means: whatever one utters may cross any line, with no accountability from the sponsored owners of this heathen website (or those betting on these dead horses). Does responsible speech exist here?
ChowQ has neither withdrawn the offensive (Book in the toilet) images, nor aplogized to readers. Humans have shame but robots never worry. And Urchin goes about naked as usual, changing nicknames when struck by lightening.
I'd like all (real) Muslims here to condemn what he did. Indus-ian Islam-bashers and Pakistani 'tamaash-beens' will both be responsibile (for what will soon appear on this website) if fences are not mended in a gentlemanly manner soon.
Peace, only if I'm not provoked.
"No doubt someone did. And no doubt I am living up to my commitment."
How old are you at ChowQ and otherwise? I'm old enough here (and otherwise too) to tell you that there is no such thing as FREE SPEECH. Free speech really means: whatever one utters may cross any line, with no accountability from the sponsored owners of this heathen website (or those betting on these dead horses). Does responsible speech exist here?
ChowQ has neither withdrawn the offensive (Book in the toilet) images, nor aplogized to readers. Humans have shame but robots never worry. And Urchin goes about naked as usual, changing nicknames when struck by lightening.
I'd like all (real) Muslims here to condemn what he did. Indus-ian Islam-bashers and Pakistani 'tamaash-beens' will both be responsibile (for what will soon appear on this website) if fences are not mended in a gentlemanly manner soon.
Peace, only if I'm not provoked.
#94 Posted by shoaib_daniyal on February 23, 2009 3:22:11 am
Re: #85
I see this website takes its free speech very seriously.
I see this website takes its free speech very seriously.
#93 Posted by shoaib_daniyal on February 23, 2009 3:20:16 am
Tahir,
I'm sure someone did recite the 'azaan' in your ear at birth; live up to your committment.
No doubt someone did. And no doubt I am living up to my commitment.
Shoaib
I'm sure someone did recite the 'azaan' in your ear at birth; live up to your committment.
No doubt someone did. And no doubt I am living up to my commitment.
Shoaib
#92 Posted by VRV on February 23, 2009 2:57:39 am
Corr:
Isn't that Judaic mythological icon Gabriel?
Isn't that Judaic mythological icon Gabriel?
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