God of Many Needs

Re:#35 by quin

Labib is like Ghalib in Arabic poetry. He was a jew and initially against Islam, but impressed by Holy Prophet SAW and Quran he accepted Islam. During time of Hazrat Umar RA Labib was asked by Hazrat Umar to say some poems but he vehemently refused, when insisted he even then refused and said once I have learned Surah-Al-Baqrah then I feel ashamed of myself if I make another poem. ( I am not condemning the later Arabic poets, just to illustrate the Personal "Zarf" way of thinking of some people)

For example when I read Surah Al-Dahr(76), personally nothing is more poetic then this to me. Off course you get the poetic essence in Arabic and not in its translation. Anyway first verse says:

There has certainly come upon man a period of time when he was not a thing spoken of. (He was not a think worth mentioning).

Then verse 6,7 says:

But the virtous(Abrar) drink of a cup, tempered with camphor-- A spring wherefrom the servants of Allah drink. They make it gush forth-- a forceful gushing forth.

Now, you just pause there for a long time, what in the world is a spring which will increase if people drink it? Such a beautiful expression. Who are these Abrar? What are they doing? which will increase this spring. They are only drinking water from a spring, it should reduce the amount of water, but instead of that their action of drinking is increasing the water.

Then you read Quran and it says. YOUR GOOD ACTIONS EAT YOUR BAD ACTIONS and then you see: Oh, this is what Abrar do. and this is that water and this is that drinking.

Then you realize; Quran is doing poetry with a purpose. Which is mentioned in the first verse of Surah-Al-Barah, beginging of Quran.

Ghalib also mentioned that somewhere (Sharabun-Tahura)

Re: # 49 sorry tahir, it was a typo. Can’t you see that? Same 3 letters, just order reversed ... my apologies. I never resort to personal attacks because a personal attack in a debate (if it is a debate in the real sense) is a sign of intellectual weakness and I have full confidence in soundness of my arguments.

(Btw, throwing mud and using filthy language also comes across as sign of intellectual weakness - though for this post I understand your hurt)

Re: # 42
9MM,
"because you are dog of many needs."

This needs to be answered but you won't understand human language because all you hear is your own woof woof poetry in the toilet without the benefit of the background score of your pneumatic exhaust system.

I disagree strongly with you on certain issues about which YOU have no knowledge.

Did I ever abuse you or call you a dog? Never! And now that you have named me after somebody that you truly love, let me label you one too.

Husshhh tiger husshhh!

Re: # 47 akcheema sb., I will keep that in mind. Thanks for clarifying that aspect. Though I meant to limit my comparison to the recent posts (on this thread only), where you had without considering the metaphorical mirror imaging aspect of the poem, had jumped to some uncalled for conclusions, I do acknowledge that you are not a self-righteous person and my comparison, if it seemed to imply that, was unfair, and I am sorry for that.
Kind regards,

Re: # 42; quin

[[Just like cheema you make pronouncement about things of which you have no idea.]]

sir ... I may be a lot of things but am not a self-righteous prick! ... I protest in the strongest possible terms at this unfair comparison

my arguments, if they can be called that, are more to do with semantics (about theological concepts and how they are categorised) rather than a personal attack on anyone

Khuda hafiz

Re: # 45 DinaStrange, what a relief, finally, I felt reading your comment. My humble efforts have not gone futile after all. Thanks for taking time to read the explanation and for your gracious feedback.

Quin,

just read your post#31, where u said to replace word God with word Man and i have to apologize or rather applaud u poem. things fell into place and i loved it.

beautifully done.
:)

Re: # 43 read previous interacts e.g., 31 ,33 etc.

Seriously, had never read more no sense making poem than this one.
What is it about?

Re: # 40 tahir, what you are doing is not satire. it is spamming and jerkiness. It only hurts to see the waste of time and gumrahi and utter foolishness.
On Arjun thing, it was bittersweetmojo who started the protest in spite of he being proclaimed athiest. It was shame that you started fight with him. And a bitter fight, just like you are doing it with me for no reason. That was what really could hurt. Total idiocy on your part. Like Bush's march into Iraq and Afghanistan, you behaved with total insensibility, like a blind-hooded animal.
I had posted my protest post about Arjun thing. But that is no criteria for anyone's faith. What a foolishness to think that if someone did not write anything, they are less of a Muslim. This is the kind of attitude which is shame on religion's name.
One interpretation of my poem may apply to you in the following way. You are a blatant example of the kind of haughtiness to which the poem points out. You behave like you are a god. You judge, proclaim who is who, and this or that and you may be a god to your own thinking, within the walls of your psyche, but you come to chowQ, because you are dog of many needs.

And your needs are such that you post the most shameful images, and use most shameful words.

How much more idiotocity one can exhibit when without knowing me, you say, "I bet you feel proud about America"
Just like cheema you make pronouncement about things of which you have no idea.

Kis pind se uthh ke ayay ho! You see everyone in your rabid mirror. Go back to the caves where you belong. Don't waste your time here with things of which you have no understanding.

Re # 41. Good excuses. Be gone.

9MM,

I just remembered something:

Those images you loved so much in my gallery were posted to me by someone and came WITH the titles; I only ensured social justice was done in a way that only poets could understand! And by the mighty Niagara Falls, you undertood it perfectly!

Enjoy Torn-Ronto and the company of the Chowq shrink!

Re: # 39

I bet you feel proud about America! Don't waste your sorrow on me 9MM. Pleeease!

And where was your TAQWA when the Arjun Brigade attacked? All the proud Kalima-gos hid under their beds! THAT was truly shameful AND a disservice to Muslims. Ah these pseudo liberals with twin Pak-Am heads!

Are you trying to scare me with your Wird-Damm-PhooNk-whirling routine now? I'll be on my way now (you've correctly named that golden road); sit sulk by the roadside.

Over and out (at least for now).

PS: It is satire, not CLOWNING, and it does hurt!

Re: # 38, you are a TOTAL clown. And cannot be helped. I feel sorry for you.
Split personality - I can see. On one hand claiming to be believing in taqwa and zuhad, and on other, playing with the filth of the worst kind.
I have seen your gallery - very disappointing. Pathetic and pitiable. and you feel proud of it. Strutting about it. la houla wala quwwata illah billah. Shame on you. You are biggest disservice to the name of Muslims.
May God help you find 'siratul mustaqueem'

How about THIS 9MM?

(See my Gallery!):

Monica and Bill (thurki)
Now Bush and the turkey
My my emigrants
My what a country!

PS: Do you live THERE?

Re: # 34

9MM,

But there's much more RHYME in what you wrote, and with stumbling meter too! Aazaad shayri?

What's wrong, all dried up?

9MM,

"the word of 'God' sound irreplaceable"

Replace THIS word, and you have 'shirk'!

Nice acrobatics again; the Olympic Selection Committee is watching you with genuine interest!

And I've asked them to consider you despite the advanced age!

:)