Murad A Baig March 22, 2009
#44 Posted by majumdar on March 23, 2009 10:52:51 pm
Sanatani bhai,
Re: 43
Bitter, but true. East Bong Hindoos betrayed the Hindoo cause in 1947 and got properly shafted in turn.
Regards
Re: 43
Bitter, but true. East Bong Hindoos betrayed the Hindoo cause in 1947 and got properly shafted in turn.
Regards
#43 Posted by Sanatani on March 23, 2009 10:30:06 pm
Re: # 27
You seem to be another East Bangali ma888ch**d. You scum swines have been the factor that will eventually see Bengal and the North East fall to the evil muslais.
This time we should ensure that no Bengali Hindu gets refuge in India.
Sanatani
You seem to be another East Bangali ma888ch**d. You scum swines have been the factor that will eventually see Bengal and the North East fall to the evil muslais.
This time we should ensure that no Bengali Hindu gets refuge in India.
Sanatani
#42 Posted by Sanatani on March 23, 2009 10:23:05 pm
Re: # 41
When Pak is not-India and pakis not-Indians what makes you think Pak will have any reason to admire India.
Sanatani
When Pak is not-India and pakis not-Indians what makes you think Pak will have any reason to admire India.
Sanatani
#41 Posted by jang on March 23, 2009 10:54:30 am
hi silent... why not india? its closer nationality, its got plenty muslims. why go malaysia or dubai? is it because india is too wahabi or not rich or not liberal?
#40 Posted by VRV on March 23, 2009 10:52:57 am
39 # silentvoice,
Pak's admiration for KSA is on 3 counts.
a. It's the custodian of holy mosques
b. Leading Sunni nation
c. Oil and Dollar rich country
Visits of King Aziz to Pakistan would testify as to how Pak establishment loves KSA. Pakistan wouldn't show similar admiration for an Yemeni or a Somali King. Malaysians wont qualify for your admiration as they are not Noorish as Arab-Perso Pakistanis. No?
Pak's admiration for KSA is on 3 counts.
a. It's the custodian of holy mosques
b. Leading Sunni nation
c. Oil and Dollar rich country
Visits of King Aziz to Pakistan would testify as to how Pak establishment loves KSA. Pakistan wouldn't show similar admiration for an Yemeni or a Somali King. Malaysians wont qualify for your admiration as they are not Noorish as Arab-Perso Pakistanis. No?
#39 Posted by silentvoice on March 23, 2009 9:46:24 am
Hi Murad,
Thanks for excellent , well researched article. Its very much true that one major problem of current problems in Pakistan is inclination towards Saudi since Zia's time. Instead of hypocrites like Saudi , it would have been much better if we would have inclined towards Malaysia , Dubai or some other progressive nation. These nations have built wealth and economy by being liberal yet preserved there religion in there own personal lives unlike the Saudi nation where monarchy is plundering trillions of petro dollars of there nation and turning there nation into sex starved gays apart from hypocrites.
Thanks for excellent , well researched article. Its very much true that one major problem of current problems in Pakistan is inclination towards Saudi since Zia's time. Instead of hypocrites like Saudi , it would have been much better if we would have inclined towards Malaysia , Dubai or some other progressive nation. These nations have built wealth and economy by being liberal yet preserved there religion in there own personal lives unlike the Saudi nation where monarchy is plundering trillions of petro dollars of there nation and turning there nation into sex starved gays apart from hypocrites.
#38 Posted by nb on March 23, 2009 9:23:43 am
#27 I agree. Nkg, maybe you should post more in Bengali, you're so much more polite!
#37 Posted by nkg on March 23, 2009 6:09:25 am
Re: # 33
jang...
it is not anti-hindu...it is usual piece of crap, which people did not like....
jang...
it is not anti-hindu...it is usual piece of crap, which people did not like....
#36 Posted by dost_mittar on March 23, 2009 5:54:12 am
"Deoband’s Dar ul Ulum, followed by a college of 6,000 Indian Mullahs, recently publicly condemned this terrorism and the redefined Jihad saying that the killing women, children and Muslims is un Islamic. It said…�Islam rejects all kinds of injustice, violence, breach of peace, bloodshed, murder and plunder in any form.�
Wahabis have no problem with this statement. "all kinds of injustice, violence, breach of peace, bloodshed, murder and plunder in any form" could be a reference equally to the US actions in Iraq and elsewhere or the Indian army's actions in Kashmir. Baig saheb, one has to notice the omission as much as commission, one should notice that the ulema did not specifically mentioned any Muslims for an act of terrorism.
Wahabis have no problem with this statement. "all kinds of injustice, violence, breach of peace, bloodshed, murder and plunder in any form" could be a reference equally to the US actions in Iraq and elsewhere or the Indian army's actions in Kashmir. Baig saheb, one has to notice the omission as much as commission, one should notice that the ulema did not specifically mentioned any Muslims for an act of terrorism.
#35 Posted by VRV on March 23, 2009 5:41:20 am
Good to read but author isn't successful in highlighting the reasons for the sustenance of that ideology.
In Arabia, they found al-Sauds and in India they're surrounded by native Hindu culture and religion that's pluralistic & pantheistic respectively.
In Pakistan there's no bar on the growth of this ideology as military structure and militaristic people embraced it (and are still embracing to become a full-blown Wahabi mulk).
In conclusion it's clear that the Wahabism remain a virus and adapt according to the host society/country to remain and grow.
I find shades of similarity of Muhammed's history in the emergence of Wahabism.
In Arabia, they found al-Sauds and in India they're surrounded by native Hindu culture and religion that's pluralistic & pantheistic respectively.
In Pakistan there's no bar on the growth of this ideology as military structure and militaristic people embraced it (and are still embracing to become a full-blown Wahabi mulk).
In conclusion it's clear that the Wahabism remain a virus and adapt according to the host society/country to remain and grow.
I find shades of similarity of Muhammed's history in the emergence of Wahabism.
#34 Posted by seekers14 on March 23, 2009 5:29:41 am
Murad A Baig has enlighten the reality that has been ignored intentionally or unintentionally.
Wahabism is a core of terrorism in the world.
I think international community also aware about wheres all resources are coming to promote wahabism in the world,but they intentionally ignoring that because they want to exploit.
Mr. Murad! You did,int mentioned Lawrence of arabia was one who did promote and develop Wahabism.
wise people always learn from History.
Wahabism is a core of terrorism in the world.
I think international community also aware about wheres all resources are coming to promote wahabism in the world,but they intentionally ignoring that because they want to exploit.
Mr. Murad! You did,int mentioned Lawrence of arabia was one who did promote and develop Wahabism.
wise people always learn from History.
#33 Posted by jang on March 23, 2009 4:45:44 am
maybe i should read this article..hindoos seem all upset. is it anti-hindoo?
#32 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 4:37:25 am
#31 by akcheema
Sorry cheema bhai, wrong expression at the wrong place :-(
Sorry cheema bhai, wrong expression at the wrong place :-(
#31 Posted by akcheema on March 23, 2009 4:35:20 am
Re: # 28/29/30; harish
it is not I who needs to 'figure' it out ... besides, I fear majumdar subscribes to the pov described in nkg's post below ... (I mean good riddance and all that)
it is not I who needs to 'figure' it out ... besides, I fear majumdar subscribes to the pov described in nkg's post below ... (I mean good riddance and all that)
#30 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 4:27:01 am
#26 by akcheema
Cheema bhai, Gandhi turned the fierce Pushtuns into non-violent Satyagrahis while Jinnah turned the relatively sober Punjabis and UP/Bihar-walas into beasts. Go figure!
Cheema bhai, Gandhi turned the fierce Pushtuns into non-violent Satyagrahis while Jinnah turned the relatively sober Punjabis and UP/Bihar-walas into beasts. Go figure!
#29 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 4:27:00 am
#26 by akcheema
Cheema bhai, Gandhi turned the fierce Pushtuns into non-violent Satyagrahis while Jinnah turned the relatively sober Punjabis and UP/Bihar-walas into beasts. Go figure!
Cheema bhai, Gandhi turned the fierce Pushtuns into non-violent Satyagrahis while Jinnah turned the relatively sober Punjabis and UP/Bihar-walas into beasts. Go figure!
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