Murad A Baig March 22, 2009
#28 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 4:27:00 am
#26 by akcheema
Cheema bhai, Gandhi turned the fierce Pushtuns into non-violent Satyagrahis while Jinnah turned the relatively sober Punjabis and UP/Bihar-walas into beasts. Go figure!
Cheema bhai, Gandhi turned the fierce Pushtuns into non-violent Satyagrahis while Jinnah turned the relatively sober Punjabis and UP/Bihar-walas into beasts. Go figure!
#27 Posted by nkg on March 23, 2009 4:20:36 am
Re: # 25
majumder....
apnar rag ekhono gelo na!!!! purba banger lokeder prathamik, durdashar janyo aro anek namdhanya culprit achhen.....gandhi onader madhyey ekjona.......ei moplah etc...jar janya apni gandhi ke doshi karen, ei sab gandhi chharai hoito hoto...and might be in bigger scale...
majumder....
apnar rag ekhono gelo na!!!! purba banger lokeder prathamik, durdashar janyo aro anek namdhanya culprit achhen.....gandhi onader madhyey ekjona.......ei moplah etc...jar janya apni gandhi ke doshi karen, ei sab gandhi chharai hoito hoto...and might be in bigger scale...
#26 Posted by akcheema on March 23, 2009 4:12:07 am
majumdar ... be fair sir
under Gandhian philosophy, Bacha Khan's pakhtoon land was and remained peaceful throughout the socalled independence movement
and don't just equate the 'tallytubbies' with the deobandis ... they may be deobandis (mostly) but that doesn't mean very much ... there inspiration doesn't come from deoband but some place else
under Gandhian philosophy, Bacha Khan's pakhtoon land was and remained peaceful throughout the socalled independence movement
and don't just equate the 'tallytubbies' with the deobandis ... they may be deobandis (mostly) but that doesn't mean very much ... there inspiration doesn't come from deoband but some place else
#25 Posted by majumdar on March 23, 2009 3:58:18 am
Nkg moshai,
so, Gandhi is real supporter of real/violent islam...
Yes, he was. The Granddaddy of the Taliban.
Regards
so, Gandhi is real supporter of real/violent islam...
Yes, he was. The Granddaddy of the Taliban.
Regards
#24 Posted by nkg on March 23, 2009 3:39:34 am
majumder....so, Gandhi is real supporter of real/violent islam...
#23 Posted by BJ2 on March 23, 2009 3:21:28 am
Re: # 22
Majumdar, say hello to montu miaN.
Regurrrs!
Majumdar, say hello to montu miaN.
Regurrrs!
#22 Posted by majumdar on March 23, 2009 3:14:39 am
Beej bhayya,
Re: 21
Much the same can be said about the (alleged) freedom movement led by the Gandhoo.
Regards
Re: 21
Much the same can be said about the (alleged) freedom movement led by the Gandhoo.
Regards
#21 Posted by BJ2 on March 23, 2009 3:04:07 am
[The Jihads tried but failed to play a major role in 1857 even though their cadres were a constant irritation to the British.]
If I remember my William Dalrymple right, toward the end of the 1857 mutiny/insurrection/independence-struggle (take your pick!) the jihadis accounted for nearly a quarter of the forces that were fighting against the British "on behalf of the khilafat". The philosophy and techniques used by those jihadis were not too much different from those of the present day jihadis in the subcontinent. :((
If I remember my William Dalrymple right, toward the end of the 1857 mutiny/insurrection/independence-struggle (take your pick!) the jihadis accounted for nearly a quarter of the forces that were fighting against the British "on behalf of the khilafat". The philosophy and techniques used by those jihadis were not too much different from those of the present day jihadis in the subcontinent. :((
#20 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 2:12:11 am
#11 by goonga
Harish Bhai, how ar eyou doing?
I am really disappointed that you perhaps you never clicked on my nick :(
Hi yaar Goonga, don't see you too often here? What's going on?
Never meant to ignore you, so sorry if it came across that way :-)
Harish Bhai, how ar eyou doing?
I am really disappointed that you perhaps you never clicked on my nick :(
Hi yaar Goonga, don't see you too often here? What's going on?
Never meant to ignore you, so sorry if it came across that way :-)
#19 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 2:12:10 am
#11 by goonga
Harish Bhai, how ar eyou doing?
I am really disappointed that you perhaps you never clicked on my nick :(
Hi yaar Goonga, don't see you too often here? What's going on?
Never meant to ignore you, so sorry if it came across that way :-)
Harish Bhai, how ar eyou doing?
I am really disappointed that you perhaps you never clicked on my nick :(
Hi yaar Goonga, don't see you too often here? What's going on?
Never meant to ignore you, so sorry if it came across that way :-)
#18 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2009 2:12:09 am
#11 by goonga
Harish Bhai, how ar eyou doing?
I am really disappointed that you perhaps you never clicked on my nick :(
Hi yaar Goonga, don't see you too often here? What's going on?
Never meant to ignore you, so sorry if it came across that way :-)
Harish Bhai, how ar eyou doing?
I am really disappointed that you perhaps you never clicked on my nick :(
Hi yaar Goonga, don't see you too often here? What's going on?
Never meant to ignore you, so sorry if it came across that way :-)
#17 Posted by hammadbajwa on March 23, 2009 2:10:48 am
I had just finished reading " The Last Mughal" by William Dalrymple, he mentions of a new brand of Islam taking shape in those days which abhored interacting with Non-Muslims during that time.He named them as wahabis.Though in minority this brand has grown in strength and the result is "Taliban" in front of us. Recent bombing of Khushal Khan Museleoum in Nowshera is another example. The point to ponder is how to deal with this lot, since they have grown in strength in light of breakdown of Institutions.
Merely thinking that they have been rejected in elections would not serve the purpose, since His highness " sufi Muhammad" has elaborated recently that he doesnot consider elections Islamic!!!
Merely thinking that they have been rejected in elections would not serve the purpose, since His highness " sufi Muhammad" has elaborated recently that he doesnot consider elections Islamic!!!
#16 Posted by harimau on March 23, 2009 2:10:43 am
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#15 Posted by goonga on March 23, 2009 1:55:53 am
nkg,
of course they did not invent.
Later, Arab and Muslim mathematicians developed algebraic methods to a much higher degree of sophistication. Wiki
of course they did not invent.
Later, Arab and Muslim mathematicians developed algebraic methods to a much higher degree of sophistication. Wiki
#14 Posted by nkg on March 23, 2009 1:33:43 am
Re: # 13
goonga...
trace little bit backward...you will find these so called "Islamic scholars" learned the translated work of Boudhayana, Brahmagupta and Aryabhatta, and when that was passed to europe, the arabs claimed these work as their own (including number system and positive negative number scheame)....
goonga...
trace little bit backward...you will find these so called "Islamic scholars" learned the translated work of Boudhayana, Brahmagupta and Aryabhatta, and when that was passed to europe, the arabs claimed these work as their own (including number system and positive negative number scheame)....
#13 Posted by goonga on March 23, 2009 1:01:29 am
Muḥammad ibn MÅ«sÄ? al-KhwÄ?rizmÄ« (Arabic: Ù…ØÙ…د بن موسى الخوارزمي) was a Persian mathematician, astronomer, astrologer and geographer. He was born around 780 in KhwÄ?rizm (now Khiva, Uzbekistan) and died around 850. He worked most of his life as a scholar in the House of Wisdom in Baghdad.
His Algebra was the first book on the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. Consequently he is considered to be the father of algebra, a title he shares with Diophantus. Latin translations of his Arithmetic, on the Indian numerals, introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world in the 12th century. He revised and updated Ptolemy's Geography as well as writing several works on astronomy and astrology.
His contributions not only made a great impact on mathematics, but on language as well. The word algebra is derived from al-jabr, one of the two operations used to solve quadratic equations, as described in his book. The words algorism and algorithm stem from algoritmi, the Latinization of his name. His name is also the origin of the Spanish word guarismo and of the Portuguese word algarismo, both meaning digit.
His Algebra was the first book on the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. Consequently he is considered to be the father of algebra, a title he shares with Diophantus. Latin translations of his Arithmetic, on the Indian numerals, introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world in the 12th century. He revised and updated Ptolemy's Geography as well as writing several works on astronomy and astrology.
His contributions not only made a great impact on mathematics, but on language as well. The word algebra is derived from al-jabr, one of the two operations used to solve quadratic equations, as described in his book. The words algorism and algorithm stem from algoritmi, the Latinization of his name. His name is also the origin of the Spanish word guarismo and of the Portuguese word algarismo, both meaning digit.
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