The Virulet Virus of Wahhabi Intolerance

Shoaib,

To think that the BDesis went willingly into Partition is mind boggling

It is wrong to say that Bangladeshis didnt have a choice. Bengal Assembly could have chosen to join the Constt Assembly of India rather than sit out. In that case the Partition of Bengal wudnt have happened.

Yes, I am aware that EB was a rural slum but the East Bongs shud have known that. Bong Muslims can thank their stars that their Hindoo counterparts didnt do in Bengal and Assam in 1947 what Sanatani bhai and his fellow Punjoo Sikhs/Hindoos did in Punjab. A simple arithmetic- the number of Bong speaking Muslims in India vis-a-vis Bong Hindoos in BD wud suffice to show what this wud have meant.

Having said, that both BD and WB wud still have been f***ed post Partition becuase Bongs (irrespective of whether they are Hindoos/Muslims) are basically a lazy, visionless people. But at least Bong Hindoos who want to achieve something in life cud have emigrated elsewhere in India and made something out of themselves.

Regards

Majumdarda

Becuase they failed to see what would happen to them in East Pak post 1947 and act accordingly.

That goes for most Bengalis, irrespective of which side of the border that they come from or their religious affiliations.

To think that the BDesis went willingly into Partition is mind boggling (and to some extent they didn’t). Ayesha Jalala calls the country (yes the whole country) a 'rural slum', if I remember correctly.

As you would be happy to know, Jinnah was right here. EB without Calcutta (and W Bengal) was a dead duck. Too bad that didn't stop him or anybody else, for that matter.

Shoaib

Majumdarda

Because Assam has a lot more cultivable land than BD.

If that is so then that should mean that Assam would be richer than BD. I would say that’s a fair enough assumption in an agricultural society.

Is that so?

Also, do note that the above is not a rhetorical or sarcastic Q.

Shoaib

Shoaib,

to why there has been so much mass migration from BD to Assam.

Because Assam has a lot more cultivable land than BD.

My question to you was why are EB Hs to blame for what happened in 1947?

Becuase they failed to see what would happen to them in East Pak post 1947 and act accordingly.

Regards

Re: # 71
Sanatani...
hey, this is kind of untold story to me...that fellow has not said something like this....

Ok I will tell you how the Sardars are responsible for the mess.

When the EB Hindus reached Kolkatta the Sikhs, Hindu Mahasabha and RSS were in the forefront of helping them as opposed to the congress which was more interested in giving them platitudes and sermons to follow Maulana G's way.

Ok the Sardars being Sardars wer very practical they would collect 40-40 Hindu heads of families and ask how long the yplanned to stay in the camp and if they got a pathetic answer they would start slapping and abusing them after that they would herd entire families in trucks handing a weapon to each able bodied male with threats of instant retribution in case of any failure to use them. They would then reach a muslai locality and do chak de phatte on them seeing them the EB Hindus would join in and lo behold you had 50 families resettled.

The EB Hindus especially the ones coming from ther more affected areas on seeing this decided to convert in large numbers into the Khalsa.

Now what did the bloody Sardars do when they heard this. They were divided into factions Giani Gurnam Singh for the Jutts and Master Tara Singh for the Khatris and the rest. Both feared that if so many Bongs became Khalsa they would favour the other i.e. the Giani though that since the Master represented the Bhapas (term for non Jutt) the Bongs would favour the Master. The Master thought that since the Bongs were becoming Khalsa impressed by the valour of the Sikhs and the Jutts were by far the most valiant fighters in all of India (having the bravery of a Rajput, the killer instinct of a Maratha, the never say die spirit of the Gurkha and well the religous fanaticism of a Jutt Sikh) they would favour the Giani.

So as a result both dithered and managed to stave of this conversion.

Resultantly these Hindus lost their fighting spirit the commie/congress/socialist propaganda had its affect and as a result we will lose Bengal and North East to the Muslai.

BLOODY SARDARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAVING SAID THAT BLOODY MOTHERFUCKER HINDUS @#(*&$&^^$^(+`'

Sanatani

#56 Ajeya,

Sigh…

Anyways, I await an answer, a real one too, to why there has been so much mass migration from BD to Assam.

VRV,

I based this observation on the basis of their insistence of having Urdu as the II oficial language in West Bengal. Whereas Bangladeshis gave life & fought to have Bengali as their lingua franca, India Bengalis fought to have Urdu as the II official language in West Bengal.

This fact is, to the best of my knowledge, wrong. You are getting confused with Bihari Ms, which Calcutta is filled with. In fact, if you meet a M in Cal there are more chances of him being a Bihari than a Bong.

I have my village in a district called Birbhum and nobody there knows a shred of Hindi/Urdu. Damn, they even speak Bengali in a weird sing-song way, quite different from Calcutta Bengali.

Majumdarda

VRV garu has answered the question raised in #46

Actually, NKG himself answered that question as to who is a RaRhi. My question to you was why are EB Hs to blame for what happened in 1947?

Shoaib

Re: # 67
Sanatani,Majumder....
There was/is no Khalsa type body for Bongs...

Sanatani...
Our family priest worked with British Indian Armed forces during WWII (that time he was in his early 20s). He used to extol role of Sardars (who were in Kolkata) during Direct Action Days...

Shoaib,

VRV garu has answered the question raised in #46.

Sanatani bhai/Nkg moshai,

The reason why Bengal and Assam did not follow Punjab is very different. The Hindoos were badly splintered between INC, FB, HM and SCF with some East Bong landlords also later siding with AIML. Besides you had national level traitors like Maulana G weakening the Hindoo cause.

Regards

Re: # 62
Sanatani....
You are right. But how many people from West Bengal supported Shyama Prasad Mukherjee?
The grand old dady of CPI was Mr. Hiren Mukherjee ( all Mukherjees are basicaly from West Bengal and not migrant from East Bengal)....We should not blame East Bengal migrants squarely for this mess. We have fair share of it....

Sorry I have got the answer!It shows second last interact.

I am amazed that my interact is not shown on right side of Chowk's latest ineracts bar. Is there any reason?

religious fanaticism is a curse and it did not start with Wahabi ideas, it was well before there. Kharjis were the fristextremists in Islam and they were dealt with strong power as they believed in violence only. The present issue gets complicated and gets support of locals as the US involvement makes it US and THEm issue. If the local auhtorities are given free hand without foreign interference then there are chances of gradual success and alternative is complete foreign operation. This seems feasible but tis consequences can be extremely dangerous and then nothing will be safe in the region as over 70 million youth willl be on rampage ...not on the name of religion but persoanl vendettas . The peace in Pakistan is peace of world and as some Indians are thinking that they can do surgical strikes, they should see that htese tactics have already failed in Iraq, Afghanistan , and in their own backyard, Mizoram, Meghaliya, Naxalites, kashmir and many many other examples. Mere Pakistan bashing or raising slogans of doing more will not solve the issue. failure of Western forces in afghanistan can not be blamed on Pakistan. Although it is favorite right now!

Re: # 47

It is like this when the EB Hindus came to India they played into the hands of the commies rejecting Dr Shyama Babu. As they were phukras themselves and being the scum that they were and are they refused to do an exchange of population and then bought the commie arguement that all this happened due to exploitation. Massive money came from China and Russia so that these guys could be turned into foot soldiers of commies. (This is a hypothesis but appears logical) they folowed the path shown by China to weaken India (remember after the commie split in 1964 the majority went with marxus) they encouraged large scale infiltration in Bangla (this was after the formation of the Bengal Congress in 1966) turned the anger of the people against the landlords and capitalists destroyed industry thereby encouraging poverty and more and more recruits for naxalism maoism and marxism and this endless cycle coninues to this day.

Also actually for all this the Sardars are to blame.

this story later.

Sanatani

Further to 59,

I based this observation on the basis of their insistence of having Urdu as the II oficial language in West Bengal. Whereas Bangldeshis gave life & fought to have Bengali as their lingua franca, India Bengalis fought to have Urdu as the II official language in West Bengal.

Similarly Bangladeshi Muslims migrated to India (Assam) raised the flag of Pakistan i/o Bangladesh. Pakistan & Islam are inseparable and Indian Muslims perforce identify themselves with that. Btw, we're all proved right when Musharraf spoke on those lines in Dehli tho Madani countered him (We have to agree that we have both types of Indians amidst us).

In sum, outlooks of Indian Bong Muslims and Bangladeshi Muslims are diff.