leenah Nasir March 28, 2009
#12 Posted by tahir on April 5, 2009 11:41:23 am
Leenah,
Don't let the fancy suit and poor rhyming impress you!
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Posted by quin on Sunday April 5, 2009 07:39 am
For Tahir:
naach naach naach bunder naach
chowQ ki sunder dugdagee per dikhaya ja upna naach
You truly are a laughing stock of this website - your favourite ChowQ. And every body knows it except you.
I have never come across a more foolish and ludicrous person in my life. A shame for all muslims.
And not just utterly absurd, but totally crazy, hysterical and fanatical. And extremely 'paindoo'.
You definitely qualifies for a psychological assessment by Dr. Khalid Sohail. It seems that the poison of on-line ivy has gone into your head. If action is not taken quickly enough you will end up in an asylum.
Take care,
Don't let the fancy suit and poor rhyming impress you!
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Posted by quin on Sunday April 5, 2009 07:39 am
For Tahir:
naach naach naach bunder naach
chowQ ki sunder dugdagee per dikhaya ja upna naach
You truly are a laughing stock of this website - your favourite ChowQ. And every body knows it except you.
I have never come across a more foolish and ludicrous person in my life. A shame for all muslims.
And not just utterly absurd, but totally crazy, hysterical and fanatical. And extremely 'paindoo'.
You definitely qualifies for a psychological assessment by Dr. Khalid Sohail. It seems that the poison of on-line ivy has gone into your head. If action is not taken quickly enough you will end up in an asylum.
Take care,
#11 Posted by quin on April 5, 2009 8:38:07 am
Respected Leenha Nasir,
I think the key point is condensed in two words:
"collective energy"
If collective energy is compromised in a relationship, every thing will start deteriorating. If deterioration is not stopped early enough, the relationship can become almost a 'Prostitutional Variety Cooperation' (PVC) type relationship.
Formation of collective energy depends upon many factors, of course. Intrinsic as well extrinsic; personalities, environment.
In the end, if the spark between two souls is vigorous enough, and it brings enough lightening and rain, it may wash away all the soot and silt, which may be withholding the growth of this beautiful entity we may call 'true love.' Once it start growing, then it need constant care and pruning so it does not wither away.
Life will always present us new challenges at every stage and we are tested as to what we can be in the end, and very often the biggest tests we are given are in our personal relationship.
Good article on a topic as important as political philosophy.
PS: Yes, I see less participation of men in this discussion. Men need a lot more education on this sphere, and should be not afraid of labels they might get by speaking on these issues. You may soon see what I mean as some witty baboon will come throwing banana skin labels at me.
I think the key point is condensed in two words:
"collective energy"
If collective energy is compromised in a relationship, every thing will start deteriorating. If deterioration is not stopped early enough, the relationship can become almost a 'Prostitutional Variety Cooperation' (PVC) type relationship.
Formation of collective energy depends upon many factors, of course. Intrinsic as well extrinsic; personalities, environment.
In the end, if the spark between two souls is vigorous enough, and it brings enough lightening and rain, it may wash away all the soot and silt, which may be withholding the growth of this beautiful entity we may call 'true love.' Once it start growing, then it need constant care and pruning so it does not wither away.
Life will always present us new challenges at every stage and we are tested as to what we can be in the end, and very often the biggest tests we are given are in our personal relationship.
Good article on a topic as important as political philosophy.
PS: Yes, I see less participation of men in this discussion. Men need a lot more education on this sphere, and should be not afraid of labels they might get by speaking on these issues. You may soon see what I mean as some witty baboon will come throwing banana skin labels at me.
#10 Posted by leenah on April 1, 2009 11:03:36 am
Very true Fouz. Indeed, there could be quite a number of challenges which, if not dealt with properly, can lead to plaguing relational matters. That is why, this article tries to focus upon a litmus test, to see for yourself, the strength that your relationship holds. And offers to you and your partner.
A very best of luck for relational bliss to everyone out there.
leenah
A very best of luck for relational bliss to everyone out there.
leenah
#9 Posted by Fouz on April 1, 2009 4:06:37 am
Re: # 8
Thank you for replying, leenah.
I was wondering whether we give more than due credit to this whole growing together in a symbiotic relationship as far as our society (though quite influenced now by western mores) is concerned. For we are still very much dependent on our old thinking ways in all matters relational. People marrying 60 years ago were not so much concerned about any mutual benefits their personalities will derive by initiating a relationship. They did it because it had to be done and, especially women, were more accommodating towards a pre-defined role based on gender and status and not particularly on the individual idiosyncrasies. And even though with education and the 21st century, this attitude has changed little. One would have to be rather ignorant of the reality to believe that even educated working women enjoy the luxury of deciding for themselves the limits and goals of their relations; and ultimately can, and ipso facto, benefit from all that mutual growing up and sharing together in a symbiotic relationship. Lets face it: most of us hook up in the society courtesy our parents who decide that they have finally found that 'chand si bahoo' or the 'dhang ka banda' for us! How much choice is that? And would I enthusiastically do my you-help-me-I-help-you-and-we-both-are-WOW!kinda thing with that; or would I just soberly play my okay-now-that-we-are-together-lets-stick-it-out act ? Being in a beneficial relationship, as you say, is something more than being there for each other, haina? Its not about maintaining the level or being just about break even; but the whole coming together to be more than the sum of parts. How much practical, real-world, do-able chance anyone has of coming out successful in a relationship he did not initiate himself?
Thank you for replying, leenah.
I was wondering whether we give more than due credit to this whole growing together in a symbiotic relationship as far as our society (though quite influenced now by western mores) is concerned. For we are still very much dependent on our old thinking ways in all matters relational. People marrying 60 years ago were not so much concerned about any mutual benefits their personalities will derive by initiating a relationship. They did it because it had to be done and, especially women, were more accommodating towards a pre-defined role based on gender and status and not particularly on the individual idiosyncrasies. And even though with education and the 21st century, this attitude has changed little. One would have to be rather ignorant of the reality to believe that even educated working women enjoy the luxury of deciding for themselves the limits and goals of their relations; and ultimately can, and ipso facto, benefit from all that mutual growing up and sharing together in a symbiotic relationship. Lets face it: most of us hook up in the society courtesy our parents who decide that they have finally found that 'chand si bahoo' or the 'dhang ka banda' for us! How much choice is that? And would I enthusiastically do my you-help-me-I-help-you-and-we-both-are-WOW!kinda thing with that; or would I just soberly play my okay-now-that-we-are-together-lets-stick-it-out act ? Being in a beneficial relationship, as you say, is something more than being there for each other, haina? Its not about maintaining the level or being just about break even; but the whole coming together to be more than the sum of parts. How much practical, real-world, do-able chance anyone has of coming out successful in a relationship he did not initiate himself?
#8 Posted by leenah on March 31, 2009 12:31:59 pm
Re: #5
Thank you Fouz.
You are right. More often than not, weaknesses may become, among other things, a reason to initiate people into a relationship. I believe nothing to be inherently wrong with this approach since no one is perfect. This implies that when two individuals intertwine their personalities, such that the strengths of one compliment the weaknesses of the other, the net effect could actually accentuate the growth capacity of their relationship. When each sees the positivity one is contributing to the life of the other, this in itself energizes both the members. The problem however, arises when the two partners either cease to grow together as a "one unit", or fall into the molding casting trap, i.e. their relationship ceases to produce a constructive interference pattern of their strengths. Such scenarios hardly draw curtains at happy endings.
In the extreme situations that you have mentioned, the frustration and sense of being let down, becomes even more probable when the expected revamp has failed to take place.
You are very right, it could be rather trying and tiring in the long run.
leenah
Thank you Fouz.
You are right. More often than not, weaknesses may become, among other things, a reason to initiate people into a relationship. I believe nothing to be inherently wrong with this approach since no one is perfect. This implies that when two individuals intertwine their personalities, such that the strengths of one compliment the weaknesses of the other, the net effect could actually accentuate the growth capacity of their relationship. When each sees the positivity one is contributing to the life of the other, this in itself energizes both the members. The problem however, arises when the two partners either cease to grow together as a "one unit", or fall into the molding casting trap, i.e. their relationship ceases to produce a constructive interference pattern of their strengths. Such scenarios hardly draw curtains at happy endings.
In the extreme situations that you have mentioned, the frustration and sense of being let down, becomes even more probable when the expected revamp has failed to take place.
You are very right, it could be rather trying and tiring in the long run.
leenah
#6 Posted by tahir on March 31, 2009 1:22:50 am
Re: #4
"Could you please make your spellings just as good?"
Didn't get THAT! Do you mean retaining the rigidity of Leenah (as against the elasticity of Leen-Ah or Lee-Na)?
"Could you please make your spellings just as good?"
Didn't get THAT! Do you mean retaining the rigidity of Leenah (as against the elasticity of Leen-Ah or Lee-Na)?
#5 Posted by Fouz on March 31, 2009 12:37:43 am
A relationship ultimately giving strength to both the partners is true and I do agree about the satisfaction that comes from realizing that one can rely on a support system. Having said that, I suppose weakness may be one of the attributes on which relationships tend to get initiated. We have all seen, haven't we, people jumping on to the love and caring bandwagon for reasons of sympathy for the other partner? Hence the people who marry beneath their intellectual/social status someone who would keep their paternal/maternal instincts continuously at work. That, in the extreme case, may translate in men marrying the so-called 'fallen' women and women going for the 'bad' boys, hoping to revamp them from their respective pasts. I wonder what strength do such people derive from their partners other than marking a halo above their heads. That surely in the long run is rather tiring, isn't it? And the relationship? Would it survive the vagaries of time?
#4 Posted by leenah on March 30, 2009 10:26:50 pm
Thank you and happy building to you too tahir. Life must be a void had it not been for building; dreams, bonds, ideology, faith, anything.
On a lighter note though, I sure appreciate your know-how of the taa'mirati kaam baraey naka'si e aab, tahir. Could you please make your spellings just as good? :)
leenah
On a lighter note though, I sure appreciate your know-how of the taa'mirati kaam baraey naka'si e aab, tahir. Could you please make your spellings just as good? :)
leenah
#3 Posted by tahir on March 30, 2009 9:59:50 pm
Lean-Ah,
You over-estimate the strength of the pipes made out of 'daygee loha' (traditionally considered the prime choice during house building). Why not flexible uPVC where steel and iron can hurt in the long run?
Happy building (whatever you're building out there).
:)
You over-estimate the strength of the pipes made out of 'daygee loha' (traditionally considered the prime choice during house building). Why not flexible uPVC where steel and iron can hurt in the long run?
Happy building (whatever you're building out there).
:)
#2 Posted by leenah on March 30, 2009 2:21:34 pm
Thanks tahir :)
Its the characteristic property of PVC materials: they don't attract algae and don't pass on rust. You did not have to use uPVC for this. No, not even in your relationships.
leenah
Its the characteristic property of PVC materials: they don't attract algae and don't pass on rust. You did not have to use uPVC for this. No, not even in your relationships.
leenah
#1 Posted by tahir on March 30, 2009 11:46:50 am
Lee-Na,
I've used uPVC pipes throughout the house, they don't attract algae and don't pass on rust down the faucets!
Don't under-estimate uPVC; that's un-plasticized PVC, by the way. They work very well in relationships too.
Try them.
I've used uPVC pipes throughout the house, they don't attract algae and don't pass on rust down the faucets!
Don't under-estimate uPVC; that's un-plasticized PVC, by the way. They work very well in relationships too.
Try them.
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