USA's New Afghan Strategy

fuzair

just an observation... but thanks anyway...

Major Saab,

Thank you for the update; very informative.

Regards.

Looks like this Riaz Haq dude is another Romair in the making...

Masadi ji:

What will you say about the Islamic invaders, and Persian who were butchered and supressed?

Only bottom line is that Russian were also on the winning side and hence could not be suppressed, just as America was. Before WW II, European empires, not America, which were stronger.

Then why do you care about the facts, afterall you are a snake oil salesman. Trying to create a majuma at Chowk and eager to claim a following, and call others names and jealous. Undeniable fact is that you cannot take a challenge from another equally, if not more, intelligent person like Riaz or others.

Please get over it.

US stooge RiazHaq writes "As any other empire, the Russians looked after their own imperial interests..."

No sir they reacted to the imperial interests of the US after having lost over 20 million in WW2 (as against the 200,000 lost by the US), facing the brunt of the German war machine, they wouldn't play dead and hand over the world to the US or merely let belligerents occupy those sections from where they had been attacked multiple times, as the Poland corridor. Unfortunately for them it was a losing game from the beginning. Empire building has remained the forte of the UK/US and not the SU. As most of the 3rd world nations had been let down by the colonials they themselves turned to socialism, as did Pakistan leading to the barbaric reactions by the US. The Soviets merely reacted to the US shenanigans, it was the US game they were playing and so they lost, just as playing the US game Pakistan will lose. India was non aligned and so their help by the Soviets is commendable. Pakistan through Badabar was clearly in bed with the Americans and had an undeclared war with the Soviets, how should they have reacted? Unlike the fair weather friends that the US was to Pakistan using it as a whore, the Soviets were at least sincere in their alliances.

Kissinger the damn fool was manipulating the facts when he wrote that nations have interests. Nations have friends but some nations are predatory and rule through force of arms even when direct interests are not discernible or related to their target- the US is such a nation.

TNITC masadi

Masadi mian ji looks for problems in others, that is why he cannot solve any problem. Isn't this similar to someone who cheats in the exam and look for answers else where.

Re: # 87

Riaz:

"...As any other empire, the Russians looked after their own imperial interests..."

Very astute.

Masadi mian ji:

You are desparate, next you will claim political Islam was created by the U.S.

arjun writes "Zbig was a Carter man. And how does a rational person go from this quote to "the US created the taliban".."

Read HPs post to understand the process through which it occurred with the blessings of the US. Zbig might have been a "carter man" that does not mean he cannot make conclusions from the beginning of the process to its logical conclusion. Further he is not only 'carter's man' but an insider- you don't become the president's 'man' without Washington/corporate/military connections.

TNITC masadi

Romair,

"Pakistan needs to disengage from the war"

yeah yeah...you said that a million times. I'm not debating your logic.

I'm waiting to see some Pakistani leader who has the balls to stand up to the US & say "goodbye, we don't want your money!"

When it comes to India, Pakistani courage puffs up like an adder. What is it?!...getting bombed into the stone age?...not getting anymore aid?..what terrifies you about the US?!...

I think the Taleban are the only people who have the kohones to say that & mean it...

This seems like a classic whore/john relationship. The whore does what she does because the alternative is worse than the profession. The John has a need & knows it can be satisfied (albiet badly) by paying money.

like the pashtuns being bombed like hell in bajaur and drone attacked and when something happens in lahore pakistanis squeal

what i meant was that the USSR due to some reasons played a major role in liberation of many afro asian countries
Agha Amin

#87 Good post.

Re: # 67
Amin: "the USSR was a great friend of Muslims.If you study the Russians and compare them with chinese or USA , the Russians are far superior."

I don't understand how any one can make a general characterization of this nature. As any other empire, the Russians looked after their own imperial interests. They have slaughtered Chechens and Afghans, subjugated central Asian republics, supported the Serb massacres of Muslims, supported the destruction of the Ottomans in a deal with Brits, allowed emigration of millions of Russian Jews to Israel where most of them settled on Palestinian lands occupied after 1967, supported India against Pakistan with all the military hardware, even delivering emergency aid via Egypt when the Indians ran out of parts and ammo, when the US applied sanctions on Pak, ..etc etc. The list goes on.

I think it's best if we stop thinking in terms of "friends of Muslims". As Kissinger puts it, Nations have interests, not friends or principles. So the friendships are usually temporary and driven by interests, not personal emotions.


Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

#81 by Captain Clueless

i am surprised at all the gung-ho expatriates from pakistan (and india) who want pakistan to be on the forefront of this self-destructive unwinnable war......if they are so into it, why don't they volunteer for the usa army and get deployed to afghanistan, to fight in gwot.......

And so were you until reality bitch slapped you back into your senses. Not so long ago, you were the biggest proponent of the US invasion of Afghanistan. In fact, you'd claimed that IT sucked as a career and you'd love to wear the PAF uniform again and lead US troops into that country. You might have forgotten that mother of all gaffes, but we won't and we won't let you forget it for long.

#84 exactly.

#83 Posted by tahmed32 on March 31, 2009 6:00:25 am


as tens of thousands of muslim women were raped, thousands of muslim men brutally killed


and when that happened in east pakistan, the pakistani army stepped in to the rescue..

oh..wait..