State of Denial

nkg writes "but commies do not do allahu kabooms in streets of Mumbai, London, Madrid for the sake of Karl Marx or Lenin.."

Really, what about the Tamil Tigers? Their philosophy is Marxist/Leninist, and they are Hindu as they claim. The point is the philosophy cannot be condemned by the actions of the followers that is not linked to that philosophy.

As sociologist Richard Pape wrote:

"The data show that there is little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world's religions. In fact, the leading instigators of suicide attacks are the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist-Leninist group whose members are from Hindu families but who are adamantly opposed to religion...what nearly all suicide attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland..." (Pape 2005:2) .


Get an education you miserable bigot.

TNITC masadi

No, the point is that even a humane philosophy and a cure to the ills of capitalism can be corrupted when dominated by the capitalist world system. On the other hand majumdar is using these deceptive tactics, forgetting that there were many anti-stalinist 'communists' to push his capitalist agenda whose killings are ongoing and as far as claiming holiness goes those capitalists are second to none in propaganda...

TNITC masadi

Asadi,

Majumdar mian, if your criteria of condemning "communists" is the number of people they have killed what have the capitalists done that is so very humane.

I think that's his whole point—they are both the same but the (so-called?)commies have the gall to act holier-than-thou.

shoaib

Majumdar writes ""Socialists" of Scandinavia and your beloved Middle Eastern country behave scientifically becuase they are civilised people, if you let the desis get hold of socialism, you will end up with something else"

You cannot expect a different conclusion from a rank racist, and a worshipper of the white man. What kind of civilization was it that killed millions in India due to man made famines? or the one that dropped the A-bomb on civilian towns or those that as we speak are butchering African American young males at three times the rate of mortality as the average for white people?

TNITC masadi

That said despite his politeness, majumdar's view are quite thuggish and dishonest.

Majumdar mian, if your criteria of condemning "communists" is the number of people they have killed what have the capitalists done that is so very humane. Their killing record is second to none and it is ongoing, day in and day out as they preside over a world system that kills at least 40,000 every single day unnecessarily, and the colonialists and the Atlantic slave traders and the white settlers that wiped out indigenous folk were not 'progressive communists' either. The so-called communists were actually no communists because they were presiding over a rural economic setup that they tried to industrialize through state capitalism. They were at best ideologues like your Hindu/Taliban pals. The capitalists on the other hand kill with impunity for the profit motive...

TNITC masadi

Majumdarda,

Spurned by INC it was forced into an alliance with AIML else the Parttition (which u so deplore) wudnt have happened.

Forgive me for being selfish, but show me one way how P has helped me.

In fact, I'd would like to have a convo on this, if you don't mind and have the time. My email ID is shoaibdaniyal[AT]gmail.com.

Shoaib

Re: # 50
majumder...
that is correct, but commies do not do allahu kabooms in streets of Mumbai, London, Madrid for the sake of Karl Marx or Lenin...they are nuicence in their own areas, leaving others....I will not mind muslas in pakistan use what Korun and Hadish directs them to do...aka living in 7th century arabia...in fact, that will be good for everybody...it is like a circus...a big living museum...good place for tourists from middle east...and India can divert water from Indus to help both Pakistan and India...but somehow, Islamic nuicense is not only ruining the people those who practise, it ruins others too...

Re: # 50
majumder...
that is correct, but commies do not do allahu kabooms in streets of Mumbai, London, Madrid for the sake of Karl Marx or Lenin...they are nuicence in their own areas, leaving others....I will not mind muslas in pakistan use what Korun and Hadish directs them to do...aka living in 7th century arabia...in fact, that will be good for everybody...it is like a circus...a big living museum...good place for tourists from middle east...and India can divert water from Indus to help both Pakistan and India...but somehow, Islamic nuicense is not only ruining the people those who practise, it ruins others too...

Re: # 59

in fact ... I insist!

Majumdarda,

Spurned by INC it was forced into an alliance with AIML else the Parttition (which u so deplore) wudnt have happened

When did this happen? Of course if it would have, it would have been a wierd alliance.

Majumdarda,

Thanks for that.

Later it merged into AIML but was soon (almost) forced out of it. (AIML showed its true colours the moment our beloved Qaid (pbuh) passed away).

Btw, FYI even Nitish Kumar, in an interview with Barkha caled the J-man QeA. S K sinha saab would be turing in his grave.

Re: # 58; majumdar

I never said he couldn't be! .... you are welcome to him

Cheema sb,

Why can't the Qaid be mine?

Regards

Cheema sb,

"Socialists" of Scandinavia and your beloved Middle Eastern country behave scientifically becuase they are civilised people, if you let the desis get hold of socialism, you will end up with something else.

Regards

Re: # 53; majumdar

[['OUR' beloved Qaid ]]

aren't we being a bit presumptive here majumdar?